DIY Mac mini Overclocking 477
mirko writes "So, you wanted a 1,42GHz Mac mini but either because of some distribution woes or because of your tight budget you could just get a 1,25GHz ?
Don't worry : Leo Bodnar just found out how to overclock your machine. Of course, you'll have to open it prior to anything else but you already know how to do this."
Cooling? (Score:2, Insightful)
I wonder if there is going to be a surplus of dead mac minis hitting ebay soon.
Re:Cooling? (Score:5, Informative)
I would bet the chips are the same core in both, but the default 1.42 chips are certified qualitywise to run at that speed. Overclocking the 1.25 chip to 1.42 should really be no big deal.
Re:Cooling? (Score:2, Interesting)
But the chances go up there are going to be more failures now.
Especially if the 1.25 chips really didn't certify at 1.42. Some times, 170MHz makes all the difference. Especially if they are doing it to up thier distributed.net [distribued.net] speeds.
Re:Cooling? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Cooling? (Score:5, Interesting)
You can get up to a 1.7 GHz G4 processor upgrade and there was even a Dual 800 MHz G4 upgrade offered at one point. Some people have been able to put in nVidia GeForce 3 and ATI Radeon 8500, 9000 Pro and 9200 graphics cards in these things. Not to mention you can put a full-size hard drive into it.
The Cube will probably end up being a lot more upgradable than the Mini, but the Mini sure has a better price.
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Re:Cooling? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Cooling? (Score:5, Informative)
If you bump the 1.25 to 1.42 I'm sure it's fine. I wouldn't want to bump the 1.42 any higher as it's not worth voiding the warranty for the TINY speed increase and the possibilty of the case not being able to handle the increased heat.
Re:Cooling? (Score:5, Informative)
Even then, the aluminum case remains room temperature (feels cool). The fan itself is very quiet. During light use (Internet, word processing) the Mini is absolutely silent and operates cool to the touch.
The Powerbook on the other hand gets almost too hot to touch when the CPU hits 55C, and the internal fan is rather noisy in comparison.
Re:Cooling? (Score:3, Informative)
The Powerbook radiates heat through it's case, while the Mac Mini is either keeping it internaly, or venting it in a more focused manner. (exhaust fan)
Warranty? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Warranty? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Warranty? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Warranty? (Score:4, Informative)
Troc
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Interesting)
You're right, and I also think that removing soldered jumpers from the motherboard will definitely void your warranty.
Did you see the size of the jumpers [pipex.com]?!?!?! Crazy small...
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Informative)
They are most definetly soldered.
There are in fact, as the article states, "zero ohm resistors". To be fully accurate, you would call them "surface mount zero Ohm resistors". The page author goes on to say that you do not need to put them back to set your desired clock speed because you can just use a "blob of solder".
Re:Warranty? (Score:5, Interesting)
The default warranty (if you don't buy the extended AppleCare) is one year.
This is a $499 electronic device.
A 1-year hardware warranty on a gadget this cheap is worth, what? Maybe $50?
So whenever you are considering doing something like this (and yes, overclocking pretty much alwasys voids warranties, even if all the early FUD about opening the mini case turned out to be false), the judgement call you need to make is: Will this mod be worth more than about $50 to me?
In the case of this mod, it's a way to turn a 1.25 GHz mini into a 1.42 GHz mini.
But for $20 more than the price of upgrading the HD from 40GB to 80GB, you can get an actual 1.42 GHz mini with an 80GB drive already installed, and keep the warranty intact.
So in this case, no. Probably not really worth it.
However, on a system this inexpensive, it's really just a matter of time before some people start coming up with interesting hacks which are more than worth it.
I doubt the mini will replace the X-Box as the hardware hacker's favorite toy anytime soon, but it will be interesting to see what happens over the next year or so.
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Warranty? (Score:5, Interesting)
I see a few others.
1. The mini is very quiet, the X-Box is notoriously noisy.
2. The mini video card is modest by modern PC standards, but vastly superior to the one in the X-Box.
3. The mini is ready for use as a media server with no hacking required. iTunes is a fantastic app for storing your music library. Plug an EyeTV 500 into the firewire port, and you've got a digital broadcast Tivo-alike. Install VLC (which is a free download), and you're playing full-screen videos of whatever gray-market stuff you find on the Internet. The DVI out plugs right into most modern HD televisons and projectors without the need for an adapter. Plus, all of this can be controlled with an IR remote from Keyspan, which I've seen on the web for as little as $22. The built-in bluetooth and 802.11g options are nice to have, as well.
That said, it's not perfect.
1. The CPU isn't really fast enough to give you full-frame 1080i HDTV via the EyeTV. Not the end of the world if you are using an XGA or WXGA projector, but still...
2. You need a USB break-out box to get surround sound... but at least the OS supports both Dolby 5.1 and DTS.
3. Hmmm... actually, that's the whole list.
YUV DVI vs RGB DVI (Score:3, Informative)
The [Mac mini] DVI out plugs right into most modern HD televisons and projectors without the need for an adapter.
In my experience, this is often not the case. Even though high end telivisions have DVI jacks on them, they are using the YUV colourspace and not the RGB used for computer displays. I was annoyed to find this out, to say the least. Jacks are the same, but no-go. So the best video output you can do with the Mac mini is using the S-video do
Re:Warranty? (Score:5, Informative)
The mini-card is a ATI Radeon 9200, which isn't better than a geforce 3.
You really have no clue, do you?
The X-Box is a 733 MHz Pentium system with 64 MB of system RAM, and the video "card" which you say is "derived from a full power geforce 3" is a 300 MHz GPU designed specifically for the X-Box by Microsoft and nVidia. It's an integrated chip which shares the system bus. It supports a maximum resolution of 1920x1080. Plenty good enough for hooking up to TV sets, even some HDTV sets, but pathetic by computer card standards.
I'll take the Radeon 9200 with it's own DDR video memory, thanks.
P.S. I've got both an X-Box and a mini, and have witnessed both of them perform. There's no question that the X-Box fails to even come close to the video performance of the mini. Sorry. It just isn't as good, no matter how much you might want it to be.
Re:Warranty? (Score:3, Interesting)
You find it almost impossible to believe that a low-end integrated chip in a three-year-old set-top console which currently sells for $125 for the entire system and was intended to connect to TV sets is inferior to a low-end GPU card from a $500 computer with DVI output that was just released this month? Okay.
To answer your question: Yes. Yes I'm sure. I own both. The ATI Radeon is a bet
Mmm... (Score:3, Funny)
uhhh (Score:5, Insightful)
No, not really. 1.42 GHz isn't really so much faster than 1.25 to justify voiding the warranty.
Re:uhhh (Score:3, Informative)
Someone marked this informative? (Score:2, Insightful)
Frequency doesn't matter when comparing processor performance because PPC chips do more per cycle _but_ frequency is important when comparing FSB's because doing more per per cycle is some how irrelevant?!
Re:uhhh (Score:5, Informative)
Intel claims all their busses are "quad-pumped". Those 533mhz busses are really 133mhz.
But they still send 4 instructions per clock, versus one instruction per clock. You're not really comparing apples to apples here. If you wanted to apply the same logic, PC3200 DDR memory really only runs at 200 MHz. (Except for the fact that the 2 signals per clock make it run at a functional equivalent of 400 MHz.) Same concept.
The P4 architecture definitely has its problems, but this isn't one of them. -- Paul
Re:uhhh (Score:5, Interesting)
Where the low end PCs really suck is with their onboard integrated chipset graphics. "Intel Extreme Graphics", "VIA DeltaChome Graphics", etc are major performance killers. They zap CPU and RAM bus performance and are overall ickky. If you want a fun experiment, try some benchmarks with a PC with such integrated graphics. Then install a PCI Radeon 7000 (very low end GPU) and disable the integrated graphics. BOOM, instant huge performance boost. Basiclly, any GPU is better than no GPU. Or perhaps more correctly, real dedicated gfx RAM is better than sharing system RAM.
533? (Score:3, Funny)
Someone should tell intel that 133*4=532. Looks like they still haven't fixed that multiplication bug from the original pentium...
Re:uhhh (Score:2)
Mods are missing something today (Score:4, Insightful)
To find out, get an $725 Dell, download a 2 hour movie from your digital camcoder, add some music, watermark captions and video transitions and burn it to DVD. Report your experience here.
Re:And how will they know? (Score:3, Funny)
So, you are going to keep these [pipex.com] around long enough without losing them so you can put them back? Good luck.
Same 167 MHz FSB (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Same 167 MHz FSB (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Same 167 MHz FSB (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Same 167 MHz FSB (Score:3, Informative)
Didn't buy the Mac Mini for speed (Score:5, Insightful)
I like more speed as much as the next guy but the next guy didn't buy the Mac Mini for speed.
I second that... (plus my Mac Mini experiences) (Score:5, Informative)
I bought a 512 MB 1.25 GHz Mac Mini last week. It's been a pretty sweet little machine. iMovie works great with MiniDV video, I don't have a HDV camcorder to try HD though.
Garage Band ROCKS! 18 tracks of audio of different formats and it keeps on trucking!
I haven't tried anything harder than Warcraft 3 or Sim City 4 on it yet though.
Fast enough...for almost everything (Score:3, Informative)
DVD mastering and my degraining phtotoshop filter are the only things that make me wish a faster processor. I'm patient with the photoshop filter which can take 20 seconds or so, because my images are large (70 meg per file) (The DVD stuff which can take hours.)
Mini (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mini (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mini (Score:5, Interesting)
Kudos to the guy photographing this stuff.. He took some pretty good shots!
Burn baby burn! (Score:4, Funny)
is cooling it REALLY an issue?? (Score:3, Insightful)
Too lazy/busy to do some real research here, I know that someone here on
The same case is used for the faster processor. How different are the processors themselves? ie, The mini has already been designed to handle the heat output of the 1.45GHz, so how much more heat (if any) would an overclocked lesser cpu generate?
Is cooling the overclocked chip even a concern?
The point of the hack (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The point of the hack (Score:3, Informative)
Also, here's my guess on how he performed this hack. He looked up the datasheet either for the clock chip or for the processor and saw which jumper configurations set up the speed. Then he traced back the lines to those resistor pads, either by using sight or a multimeter.
Anyway, its a cool hack and pretty simple to do if you are comfortable handling 0402's.
call me a skeptic/coward, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: (Score:3, Informative)
Overclocking the BMW Mini (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Overclocking the BMW Mini (Score:5, Funny)
Funnily enough, the BMW Mini One can be 'overclocked' too. Like the CPU in the two Mac Mini models, both the One and the Cooper have the same 1.6 litre engine, the only difference being the engine management software.
We don't get the Mini One in the US; I had to look it up. 90 horsepower? You poor bastards.
Get used to using Unix (Score:5, Informative)
The MacMini will NOT make a good Doom3 machine. For interactive stuff (even, gasp, light video editing!) it's fine the way it is. For long term stuff (DVD encoding), background the app and do something else (even at the same time!) Who cares if it takes 25 minutes instead of 20 minutes?
Generally, 'make DVD' is the last thing I do befor e I go to bed...it's always done by morning.
If you wanted the last oomph of power, you shouldn't have bought apple's cheapest box!
UNDERclocking (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually, this might be interesting to use for underclocking. Take your Mac Mini 1.42, underclock it a bit to 1.25, and it's even less likely that the included fan will turn on. Makes it all the more of a silent computing solution.
They do this type of thing all the time at silentpcreview [silentpcreview.com], although they gain a bit more (by way of silence) because they can also adjust the CPU voltage down once the clockspeed is reduced. Just a thought. -- Paul
Pee Cee price comparison weenies don't get it (Score:3, Insightful)
I find it interesting that all the comparisons I've read primarily compare the hardware of the mac mini to the hardware at a comparibly priced Pee Cee system.
The fact that one system runs OS X and the other runs Windoze always seems to be a secondary consideration when looking at the price tag and comparing it to a Dell/clone/ect...
The fact that you can buy an OS X system that "feels" just as fast or faster than a comparible Pee Cee system AND has all the advantages of OS X over Windoze (security, ease of use, ect..) is something you should factor in when evaluating the price. How much is it worth to you in $$$? Is saving $200 bucks on a Dell worth the heartache that living in the windoze world entails?
Re:Pee Cee price comparison weenies don't get it (Score:5, Insightful)
Pee Cee price comparison weenies
While you do have a point, and I happen to agree with your underlying point, you're never going to convince anyone like that. Because starting off by calling the people you're trying to convince "weenies" just attacks and aggravates them and puts them on the defensive. Once you've put someone on the defensive, any hope of having a rational, constructive argument is gone, as well as any hope of convincing them to see your viewpoint. The question is do you want to just insult people who are wrong about something, or do you actually want to help those people see that they are wrong and introduce positive change? (That's not easy.) If the latter, you'll have to change your strategy. Calling people "weenies" and telling them they're "living in the wrong world" is no way to convince anyone of anything, except for people who already agree with you (perhaps you just want the affirmation from that group?). Anyway, a better strategy is to open by "giving" something to the listener that they would like to hear, a concession that doesn't make them feel stupid, e.g. start out by pointing out the perceived merits of their argument are not baseless, e.g. you could say "it's true that a Dell PC with similar performance can be obtained slightly cheaper", but then (rationally) add valid (backed up) counter-arguments for why that little saving is not worth it, in a non-offensive way that doesn't make you sound like a zealot, which results in having the opposite of the desired effect, because most people instinctively do the opposite of what zealots do even if the zealot happens (by coincidence) to be doing the right thing.
Overclocking a PowerBook? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Overclocking a PowerBook? (Score:4, Funny)
Bad: You could kill it.
Good: Free birth control. (remember the story about laptops, heat and fertility?)
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Um. I'm scared. (Score:5, Funny)
Here is the bottom of the board. Or whatever you call it.
Check out this Mac Mini "Review" (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:5, Interesting)
The componets are similiar to new PC's.
Your case is about 12 times the size of the mini. Heck even mini-itx systems end up being nearly twice the size.
So you spent $300 for a motherboard and CPU, because you already had everything else, and you can 'build' a mini for cheaper?
Yep you are officially not the target audeince.
Apples aren't cheapest but compare like machines (Score:4, Insightful)
But the 199$ pc you point to has some real difference to the mini. I think they have significant differences in there target markets.
The PC--
No Dvd player.
No CD burner.
only 128 megs of ram (what century is this?)
Linshpere which is fine, but if you wanted windows add $$ (I think about 200$ if bought retail).
With mac your also paying for the applications they through in and OS X os and support.
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:5, Insightful)
Assuming you can live with integrated video, no DVD, 128M RAM, Lindows OS, no FireWire, no DVI, no iLife, ugly box, etc.
Come on, you're not really suggesting that that computer would be a good purchase are you?
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:3, Insightful)
Price watch
tower 2 ghz on board network and video and windows $250
Video card (because a shared memory isn't equal to a nvidia$50
Upgrade the memory to 512mb ~$50(depends on type)
Total $350 Plus say an hour to assemble at $40/bucks an hour employee rate.
$390 and you have a comparable performace. Of course your still using a butt ugly case that is noisey, takes up 10 time the physical space.
Quality does matter, Apple
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:4, Informative)
If you can build a machine on practically a single PCB, that small, with DVD-reading and CD-RW capabilities, and sell it for under $500...
If you want the same specs as a Mac mini for less, go look on eBay or a second-hand reseller (try 2ndchancepc.co.uk [2ndchancepc.co.uk]). The point of the Mac mini isn't to have top-of-the-line components - it's to be a usable, cheap box for your Mum or Dad to just pick up and plug in.
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, it's not just an OS. There's word processing, presentation, photo, video editing, and music creation applications provided as well. And I hear that they even throw in a cute little computer as a bonus.
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:3, Informative)
Untrue.
The Mini comes with Appleworks 6, which has WP, Spreadsheet, Database and presentation (plus drawing and painting which I guess aren't too useful).
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:4, Informative)
Darwin on an Athlon 64..... sooooo sexy.
I've got good news. It's already happened/happening.
From the Darwin FAQ [apple.com]:
Q. What is Darwin?
A. Darwin is a version of the BSD UNIX operating system that offers advanced networking, services such as the Apache web server, and support for both Macintosh and UNIX file systems. It was originally released in March 1999. Darwin currently runs on PowerPC-based Macintosh computers, and is being ported to Intel processor-based computers and compatible systems by the Darwin community.
Re:Why I don't own an apple (Score:3, Interesting)
To meet a price point, while retaining the build quality they want.
It has occurred to me that making it so tiny DOES make it desirable, but it must push the price up. Would I be as tempted by a $400 Mac which is slightly larger than the Mini, about as powerful, with a cheaper full-size HDD?
My head says yes: all I want is a cheap way to try out Mac OS (because although I don't expect to like it, I'd like to have an informed o
Re:Just Trust What Apple Gave You... (Score:5, Insightful)
Although the Mac mini is said to be extremely quiet, it does have a fan. considering that Apple does produce a 1.42 MHz model, speeding up the 1.25 is probably not going to produce more heat than the system can handle.
Re:Just Trust What Apple Gave You... (Score:4, Informative)
It's extremely quiet because the fan is on-demand. Mine only kicks in if I'm doing heavy computation or accessing the drives extensively. And when it does kick in, it slowly ramps up to speed. When the "heat event" is over, the fan slowly fades away. My SparcStation 5 worked similarly.
Re:Just Trust What Apple Gave You... (Score:3, Interesting)
Not true. I have a 5 year old Toshiba PIII laptop with a fan in it. When it comes on, it comes on loud and fast. There is no slow and quiet spin up and as a result, it is very noticeable and annoying.
Re:Just Trust What Apple Gave You... (Score:5, Informative)
-- Matthew Schiller
Electrical Engineer
Previous Apple Intern [Flat Panel iMac]
Re:Just Trust What Apple Gave You... (Score:4, Informative)
For Dell's $499 home system:
90 Day Warranty3, 90 Day At-Home Service4, and 1Yr Technical Support, an extra $90 for two year service.
Gateway charges $60 to get the full year, their base warranty is buried in a PDF.
HPaq does provide a full year though.
Re:Just Trust What Apple Gave You... (Score:3, Informative)
It doesn't. Every batch of wafers is tested within certain tolerances.
* If they run fine all the time at 1.42 GHz, they're branded 1.42 and roll out the door.
* If they run unreliably at 1.42, but work fine at the lower speed, they get pushed out the door at that speed. "Unreliably" usually means "failed a test once out of several hundred runs".
* If a chip fails multiple times
Re:Strange (Score:2)
Re:Why blue? (Score:2)
Re:Why blue? (Score:4, Funny)
Why is the MoBo blue? Is there a signifigance to the color of the board? Or did Apple just pick it because on the order sheet it was "aqua"?
Because Red mobos run the fastest, and Apple didn't want to make the Mac Mini too fast otherwise it would have killed G5 sales.
Re:Why blue? (Score:4, Insightful)
No wires.
Not one.
Re:Why blue? (Score:3, Informative)
Why is the MoBo blue? Is there a signifigance to the color of the board? Or did Apple just pick it because on the order sheet it was "aqua"?
That is not a question for electrical engineers. It's more of a question for marketers or fashion designers. You can make the board any color you want. There are red boards, green boards, yellow boards, black boards, blue boards, etc. It's to look nice.
Re:Why blue? (Score:5, Funny)
They come in all colors depending on the shop that makes them.
If you would like, you can call this Steve's "blue period."
Re:Why blue? (Score:5, Informative)
Solder mask is basically a paint that isolates the various 'pads', or landing areas for component pins, physically in space, so that the solder has much less tendency to bridge gaps and cause shorts. Usually, it is green, but it can be made in any color. Myself, I've made boards with black, red or transparent solder mask. Green is the traditional color, and afaik, there is no performance difference electrically or physically between the colors.
Just for completeness' sake, the lettering you sometimes see on a PCB is called silkscreen, and is usually white, but again can come in a variety of colors like yellow or black. Again, tradition says it should be white.
PS: I'm not an electrical engineer, and I never will be.
Re:Why blue? (Score:3, Interesting)
Red boards are pre-production and prototype boards, blue ones are "customer ready" boards that will be shipped as the final product.
I think they use orange as well - the logic board in my iBook was orange.
Re:Mac Mini DVD Playback/Video Editing (Score:5, Informative)
You can't get one for less than $480, and that's for the 256 MB combodrive version.
I bought a 512 MB superdrive Mac Mini last week. It works great for video editing, it's actually a pretty fast little machine.
BUT... transcoding from DV to MPEG2 takes awhile. Editing and even designing the buttons and menus for the DVD image is fast as can be, but be prepared to wait *at least* an hour before the finished DVD pops out after you click the burn button.
Re:Mac Mini DVD Playback/Video Editing (Score:2)
The only problem I see with using the Mini for video editing are the small hard drives. External Firewire drives are still pretty slow.
Re:Mac Mini DVD Playback/Video Editing (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Mac Mini DVD Playback/Video Editing (Score:3, Informative)
Um, not really. If you hook up two drives to the same Firewire port and try to copy between them, then it will indeed be slower. But 400 mbits/sec is still faster than the sustained data rate of a single 7200rpm drive. Just because ATA-100 goes to 100 mbytes/sec doesn't mean your drive will go that fast. In fact, ATA-100 is that fast so you can hook up two drives.
All you lose is the burst speed of the drive cache, which doesn't help much if the OS is cach
Re:Mac Mini DVD Playback/Video Editing (Score:5, Informative)
While a faster hard drive will give you better scrubbing performance, you don't really *need* to have a fast drive for editing DV.
The DV codec that most of us use with our camcorders is DV25, which is 25 Mbits/sec = 3.125 MB/sec.
DV editing was fine on notebooks even 4 years ago on the original "toilet seat" iBook.
Bundled software (Score:4, Insightful)
Mac OS X (Windows XP OEM costs at least $50)
iMovie - editing software, better than Avid FreeDV or Microsoft Movie Maker 2.0
iDVD - DVD mastering software for making menus, etc, and burning to DVD
Garage Band - compose, edit, and mix music
Also included, but not too useful for schools:
iPhoto - sort, edit, and print digital photos
iTunes
Xcode - software development suite for C/C++/Java
Quicken 2005
Nanosaur 2
Re:Is this proof that PC is better? (Score:3, Insightful)
I find it a bit scarry that you can change these things from within windows rather than the BIOS. This seems like its more likely that an average user
Re:Is this proof that PC is better? (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, but most customers don't really NEED those features. Just geeks. And the geeks who want to play with their hardware that way know they won't get that from Apple.
Basically what I'm saying is that, while it's true Apple doesn't let you play with FSB, voltage, etc, people don't buy Apple hardware to do that. And would they if Apple provided a means to make your system unstable in that way? Probably not.
I mean, the
Is this proof Windows users are insecure? (Score:4, Funny)
Actually, I think this is the result of Windows users who are emotionally insecure, and willing to clutch at any straws they can to reassure themselves their rig is "better" than a Mac.
Re:Is this proof that PC is better? (Score:4, Funny)
Surely geeks must make up some non-zero percentage of the computing population.
Re:Why are there so many Apple stories on here? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Why are there so many Apple stories on here? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Why are there so many Apple stories on here? (Score:2)
As I said I'm a Mac fan, bordering on being a zealot at times but I didn't much care about this one either. How could I? Macs can be overclocked. This is news? The Mac Mini can be overclocked. Again? What makes this news?
I agree with you about there being too many stories about trivial stuff that made the page simply because it was a
Re:Why are there so many Apple stories on here? (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, same with all these Linux and Firefox stories!
Thats it.... (Score:3, Insightful)
While I have to use windows at work, since the original iMac came out I've used Macs at home exclusively. Now you notice, this was pre-OSX. Yes, MacOS 9x sucked, but I endured it out of principle (not that anyone does that for any modern x86 OS, right?). What I didn't do was complain that there were no Mac stories on slashdot. Why? Because the OS was deemed unfeasible for the sufficiently technically inclined (you, I'm guessing). Fast forward six years, and not
Re:Why are there so many Apple stories on here? (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's see: the resurrection of NeXTSTEP, the blissful marriage of open source with corporate proprietary technology, a rallying point against the Microsoft hedgonomy, a desktop UNIX that your grandmother can use, a box with a groundbreaking price-point and footprint, and definite proof that geeks can have style, and you have zero interest whatsoever?
The definition of "hardcore computer nerd" must be very lax in yo
Re:Worth the extra hundred bucks (Score:3, Interesting)
Since then I've fitted a 7200rpm 8M cache drive - it makes a BIG difference!
Windows interoperability... (Score:3, Informative)
Quite frankly, it's never been easier. When you want to connect to a windows server, in the URI field just type in smb:///
Your Mac will also have Samba running after checking one box in the system preferences. At that point, your windows boxes can either connect to home folder public / private folders, or with the admin password you'll get the whole hard disk.
Also, Mac OS X 10.3 will authe
Truly, it Just Works™ (Score:3, Interesting)