Nokia Announces 7710 PDA/GPS/Internet Phone 164
Tufriast writes "The Register has an interesting article on
Nokia's internet ready/GPS/PDA ultra phone. It boasts music playing capabilities and features the Series 90 Software. Its attractiveness, and 'No side-talking' (NGage) capacity alone makes it a handy utensil."
"Europe, Middle East, Africa" (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:"Europe, Middle East, Africa" (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:"Europe, Middle East, Africa" (Score:5, Informative)
Re:"Europe, Middle East, Africa" (Score:2)
Er, huh? My AT&T Wireless GSM phone (Nokia 6800) supposedly only works on the 900/1800 MHz frequencies. I daily use both ATTWS/Cingular and T-Mobile GSM towers.
First Prime Factorization Post (Score:3, Funny)
Today's math lesson (Score:2, Interesting)
Nokia 6190 (Score:4, Interesting)
I love my 6190! It is a great regular phone with amazing super powers. Good size, good features, and it probably is the best phone I have ever had. I would feel weird with something with that big of an LCD in my evil pockets.
Re:Nokia 6190 (Score:1)
Teleport (Score:2)
I'd rather that it could teleport. That way I could get it even when I forgot it at home.
Re:Teleport (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Nokia 6190 (Score:2)
Phone? (Score:2)
All the features mentioned has nothing to do with phones.
I guess it is obvious, but it drives home the point that the "phone" part of a cell phone really isn't the selling point anymore.
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Phone? (Score:2)
Der. It's called 'diminishing returns'.
Lets go back to the days of HUGE cell phones (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Lets go back to the days of HUGE cell phones (Score:2)
Re:Lets go back to the days of HUGE cell phones (Score:2)
I could not agree more... (Score:2)
If this thing was smaller it would be useless as a gaming/pda device.
How many of you.. (Score:2, Insightful)
My phone is getting outdated and I cannot get a basic cellphone anymore. It sucks! No, I don't want to take pictures, movies, or jack-off with my phone.
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2, Insightful)
I think MisanthropicProgram's point is that nobody seems to sell "normal phones" anymore.
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
I'm honestly not trying to be a smartass here, but what's wrong with getting a laptop for contacts, appointments, music, etc.?
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Me: So, why don't we get together for lunch sometime next week?
Her: Great! Let me give you my number.
Me: One sec, I've got to boot up laptop.
Her: Uh, can't you just punch it in your cell-phone?
Me: No, you see, I manage everything in Evolution. Oh crap, this well just be a second, it's trying to reestablish a connecti- Hey wait, where are you going!?
All the girls I've met the past six months have put their number in my cell-phone or mine in her's.
Digits of pi, maybe, but not THOSE kind of digits (Score:2)
Oh, and oddly enough...I'm the guy that sent you your Gmail invite.
Re:Digits of pi, maybe, but not THOSE kind of digi (Score:2)
Re:Digits of pi, maybe, but not THOSE kind of digi (Score:2)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:5, Insightful)
that argument is getting tired.. been hearing that for 2 years.
and during that whole time, just phone phones have been available and still are. fine, just buy a normal _lowest of low_ end phone.
or wouldn't you consider something like 1100 [nokia.com] basic? vote with your wallet if you want.
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
that argument is getting tired.. been hearing that for 2 years.
and during that whole time, just phone phones have been available and still are. fine, just buy a normal _lowest of low_ end phone.
or wouldn't you consider something like 1100 basic? vote with your wallet if you want.
Hell, with most basic cell phones the wallet doesn't even need to be involved. Most carriers will just give them to you. It the guy doesn't like a f
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Seriously, I think this is a very cool device. I don't see how anybody who owns more than two of these devices separately can fail to see the utility. Everything needs a battery, everything needs a screen, and almost everything benefits from wireless communication. It'd be crazy not to roll them together.
Re:How many of you.. (Score:1)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Good point, this probably makes sense for a lot of people. I personally look at these things as a portable internet terminal. You kinda need the cell-phone part for your connection. To me that's a more useful device than a cell-phone, but since you are carrying it around anyway, it's nice to have it be a cell-_phone_ at the same time.
But, I'm not sure this is 'the' one. The GPS is not built in, and it's questionable whether the
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
While I guess I'm not sure about the included browser (if there is one), I know the Nokia Series 60 phones have Java support, so I would assume that the Series 90 ones do as well, though I guess Java != JavaScript. As for the browser thing, I'd assume that Nokia is still using the Symbian OS since they recently bought Symbian, and last time I checked there was a version of the Opera browser available for Symbian devices (I ran a copy of Opera a cou
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Motorola V180, Siemens CF62T, Nokia 3595/6010 (if you are in North America).
OK so they have color screens and have the ability to run J2ME apps but they are as basic as it gets. The Nokia 3595 has been replaced by the 6010 but I'd recommend searching for a 3595 somewhere because it'll last forever.
I know these things because I work at a cell phone store and we have people come in who have had their 3595's for years and have beat the shit out of them and they are still working perfectly fine.
The other
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
It looks, in fact like a better Palm than anything Palm makde. Higher res screen, better form factor, and with a built in phone.
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
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Re:How many of you.. (Score:3, Insightful)
When the phone companies start offering just plain phone service that I can use with a
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Using the Virgin Mobile system, I use less than $20 for 3 months of service, since paying $20 every three months is the minimum requirement to maintain service, and so long as I do that the money I haven't used acrues, I can also comfortably call into conference calls when necessary.
Note tha
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
My circumstances are probably different than yours. I don't need to be as available as you seem to. I'm at my desk while at work and so my family can easily contac
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
When did that happen? Every wired phone service I've ever used had rate plans created by the same crazed hermits that bring you your airline fare and the bill was always a surprise if I made even one long-distance call. It didn't seem particularly low most of the time either.
Cell phones, on the other had, have these fixed rate plans that often have unlimited calling durin
Re:Local Calls on a Mobile? (Score:2)
I'm here [juneau.org]. There is a sharp dividing line between local and long distance for me. Being able to call anyone in town free is a big deal. When the kids get a little bigger, it'll be a huge factor.
The `` the semantic equivalent of local calls'' just doesn't cut it for me. That's what I was trying to say in the earlier post: that always having the phone with me is a mixed blessing, at best, an
Re:How many of you.. (Score:3, Insightful)
But I don't want necessarily the cheapest, because from my experience it means crap ass signal, horrible color LCD screen, small buttons, and a pain in the ass interface.
I was extremely excited when Motorola came out with this the i530 [amazon.com]. Built to military spec, simple screen, strong signal. The only problem is they don't have a GSM v
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Obviously it will never compete with the quality or features of my re
Re:How many of you.. (Score:1)
Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Bet he's not the only one to have that reaction.
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Re:How many of you.. (Score:2)
Price too high (Score:2)
I can't wait for one of the new 9xxx's to ship that's priced around $600. I used to be a Palm lover, but Symbian is really remarkable.
Re:Price too high (Score:2)
Using it as a PHONE (Score:3, Insightful)
GPS? (Score:5, Informative)
There are too many devices like this available already. Sure, some of the specs are nice (screen/camera resolution), but again, no mention of the browser supporting JavaScript.
Re:GPS? (Score:2)
Re:GPS? (Score:4, Informative)
If not was about price, availability, and probably linux compatibility having a cell phone with a good pda, web browser, GPS (and maybe even ebook reader and ssh client) is like a dream. It even have good mp3 player, radio and not so bad camera included. But if it marks a trend, the future looks promising.
Re:GPS? (Score:2)
Re:GPS? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:GPS? (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, it does mention it supporting Javascript -- it's in the FAQ under "Browsing":
I wait till Suunto makes it's first phone. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:GPS? (Score:3, Informative)
QWERTY (Score:2, Insightful)
If I didn't have my usable thumboard I would want to blow my brains out.
I am open to other input methods. I just haven't seen anything that comes close.
Re:QWERTY (Score:2)
Re:QWERTY (Score:1)
Re:QWERTY (Score:2)
Personally I'm quickest and express myself best in longhand, so there's no decent input device for me 8-/
But the important question: (Score:2)
Re:QWERTY (Score:2)
Plus, there is little reason to pull out the stylus most of the time (I only use if for old apps that aren't fully navigable under OS 5) and that makes for better usability in my opinion. I looked at the Nokia home page and in the
Re:QWERTY (Score:2)
also.. nokia has qwerty devices in the coming.. 9300 [nokia.com] for example is the size of a normal phone from few years past and opens up for a full qwerty(closed it is like a normal phone from couple of years back, 6310 like). they also got the bit bigger 9500, which is like 9300 but with wifi and a camera(9300 doesn't have a camera).
(and i'm right there with the stylus text input s
Questionable Forward-Compatibility... (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=top
Re:Questionable Forward-Compatibility... (Score:1)
If you're an application developer, first consider writing the apps using J2ME. This isn't always possible, I know, but if you can do it in Java then you'll have compatibility across a wide variety of Nokia (and other) devices.
EricJ2ME info here: Eric's J2ME Pages [ericgiguere.com]
Re:Huh? Series 90? (Score:5, Informative)
Symbian is the evolution of the Epoc operating system developed by Psion for their Series 5/5mx/7/revo and netbook hand held computers.
Psion spun off Symbian as a subsidiary to do OS development and eventually sold all of its shares in Symbian, which is now owned mostly by Nokia,and Sony-Ericsson.
The premise of Symbian was to be an OS which never required rebooting, crash or hang, and would multitask while conserving battery power, as well as have a small memory footprint. Traits which were suited to a handheld computer and are ideal to a PDA or cell phone.
Not crashing is what allows you to be confident you can make that 911 call.
The no-rebooting characteristic is important so that your PDA could turn on instantly from a suspend mode.
Multitasking lets you be productive and use multiple applications at the same time, unlike PALM OS which must relaunch and close an application each time you want to do something else.
...but not the USA. (Score:2)
The Nokia 7710 is estimated to be available in Asia and China in the fourth quarter of 2004 and Europe and Africa in the first quarter of 2005
Re:...but not the USA. (Score:5, Informative)
Blame the US mobile providers. They don't buy them.
If you have T-Mobile you can just buy the Asian or European version and it will work (since their network is 100% 1900Mhz). With Cingular you could use that version but you won't be able to use it very many place since most of the network is 850Mhz.
I got my 7610 from Singapore. It rocks and was well worth the $380.
Re:...but not the USA. (Score:2)
Beige Pearl? (Score:1)
nice ripped-off aqua UI though.
Nokia scheduling lies (Score:2, Interesting)
Great!! G4 crap (Score:1)
Dupe Advert? (Score:1)
Getting a bit ridiculous.
sidetalkin' (Score:2)
No sidetalkin'
What the hell is this, then?
Re:sidetalkin' (Score:1)
So "No sidetalkin'" can only mean one of two things:
1) the phone does not have a built-in motorcycle, or
2) the phone does not have a built-in bad movie
Do Not Want Camera Phone (Score:1, Redundant)
And I want my cellphone provider to sell me the damn thing.
Re:Do Not Want Camera Phone (Score:1)
Nokia 6310i [nokiausa.com]
Re:Do Not Want Camera Phone (Score:2)
It has bluetooth, no camera, *very* basic pda features -- calander, phonebook, alarms, color screen (not touch, which i prefer, t9 is great!)
I'm very happy with it.
What's more, it's tri-band (eg works in US, europe and most places in the world -- i actually purchased a SIM while in europe and had a "local" number) and it's network unlocked (eg my phone isn't locked to a network prov
I'm still waiting (Score:1)
Re:I'm still waiting (Score:2)
ok, so the pocketknife [crkt.com] doesn't need to be integrated (in fact its much more fun when its not >:) but, u get the idea
A camera, too? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:A camera, too? (Score:2)
Operating System (Score:1)
Re:Operating System (Score:2, Informative)
My $0.02
Taco no more? (Score:2)
If thats the case, I don't think the statement in the summary is accurate as it does not currently reflect Nokia's product offering.
Been using it (Score:5, Informative)
Now that I have got to use 7710 as my primary phone for a few months and seen the software improve in quality gradually I must say this is my absolute favourite phone/pda ever. You have to account in that I haven't been using any other PDA's all that much. Only some SonyEricsson (P800 et. al.)and generic WinCE products (I'm a contractor).
What I use it for...
I kill time on almost 1hr bus rides to work reading slashdot with the Opera web browser.
I read my emails using SSL encrypted communications with my server. (SSL on top of Exim and uw-imapd, please don't impale me for my servers of choise. I just like them)
The contacts and calendar functions are pretty flexible too. It's just that I don't manage my time too much. It's handy when it reminds me about appointment which I have synchronized in.
I don't like the handwriting regognition too much because I have terrible handwriting which I can't decipher myself. The virtual keyboard does the job thou. I could write faster with a real keyboard, but nothing in the VKB itself isn't keeping me from typing faster.
Sometimes I make phonecalls too!
I guess that's all. There's a ton of features but even as an 'insider' I haven't touched many of them.
Anyway, you can consider this post as paid advertisement by Nokia because I am contracted to them ATM.
Simple the best! (Exactly the same phrase I used to describe P800 when it was still in proto stage)
I, for one... (Score:3, Informative)
After a nice experience with 3650 (which is of similar size, btw), I tried to select which cell phone would best fit my needs, and I just couldn't find one. 7610 comes close, but it's sound sucks. Sendo X is a good alternative, but with a VGA camera it's kind of limited (the led flash is nice, though). P900 (and P910) is very nice, but, again limited camera and sound. Same goes for Treo 600 (and 650). Others have too little memory, etc.
So, what does 7710 brings? Stylus-input. Radio. Stereo sound. Megapixel camera. Enough memory to run Doom (and load my DVD collection...
So, how to dial? I don't know about you, but I have been dialing most of the time through voice or the contacts application on my last three phones, so I don't expect 7710's awkward dialing to trouble me much.
Keyboard only for me.. (Score:2)
I never used these devices as much as I would have liked due primarily to the lack of easy text entry. Handwriting recognition rocks when it works, but is often clumsily corrected. So despite all of the email capabilities these devices offered, I rarely used them for that purpose.
Enter my Treo 600.. I actually do email on
Perfect for me.... (Score:3, Funny)
I do already have a mobile phone, and I certainly don't wan't to carry lots of different devices with me. This is single device that fits in a pocket. So its perfect for me. It does all the things I wan't plus some extra(camera), and it can replace my phone so that I don't have to carry multiple devices with me. Also it has lots of memory and big screen and downloadable developement suit so that I could actually code/port what ever I feel that its lacking, that I really need.
Re:WTF?? (Score:1)
Re:But I want Linux! (Score:2)
I played Ogg on my 3650, no problem. Well, 3650's *sound* sucked, but...
Re:A camera and DRM too! (Score:2)
So you buy SeleQ or some other file manager, and do it anyway. As far as DRM go, this is the best one we could have asked for.