IBM Launches Power site For Developers 50
LeninZhiv writes "Celebrating five years of DevelopperWorks goodness, IBM has just launched a new section dedicated to the Power architecture. Initial stories include such goodies as "the developerWorks' Power Architecture challenge" and the Linux on Power Architecture toolkit. May this usher in a new era of community support for Linux on POWER outside IBM?"
Linux is available in PPC (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Linux is available in PPC (Score:4, Informative)
For an out-of-the-box install, that leaves you with SLES and RHEL. You can hack Debian and Gentoo to work. Yellowdog (AFAIK) does not support pSeries at this time, but plans to in the future.
Storix Software PowerPC Development
SF and iPod (Score:4, Interesting)
(I already have an iPod and I love it)
IBM must be on a new marketing campaign. Good for them, I hope...
Re:SF and iPod (Score:1)
So IBM solicited you to build the SF project for PPC? Or they didn't say who they were...
Clearcase (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Clearcase (Score:1)
when you don't, well....
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Re:Clearcase (Score:5, Insightful)
When porting from one OS to another, the instruction set is probably rarely the main problem. (Not "never a problem", although I suspect the main instruction-set-related problems are
If ClearCase still uses an installable file system in the OS kernel, that'd probably be the biggest issue for a port to a new OS - different UN*Xes have different VFS layers. Beyond that, there might be issues with deficiencies in the new target OS's implementation of particular APIs, or the lack of particular APIs in the new target OS, for example.
System on chip (Score:3, Interesting)
Quick Question (Score:2)
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Re:Quick Question (Score:2)
Except I'm still getting it.
Oooh, have any more witty repartee? I just can't seem to get enough of your brilliant insights to my personality, and based on only one of my postings no less.
Re:Quick Question (Score:1)
You are receiving it, but you clearly are not getting it.
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So sayeth the mac elitists. Look, I've been working with macs for a long time. Hell, I was an admin for a whole lab of em'! And I'm fairly certain I "got it" a long time ago, when it was made blatantly obvious to me that macs aren't sold on technological merits, but on design, fashion and raving fanatical devotion.
I don't mind apple so much; it's their fan club I can't stand. Honestly, I can't see a good reason to switch to a mac, and I jus
Re:Quick Question (Score:2, Interesting)
Technologically, there's no reason to not be running it. If you have issues with licensing or cost, that's perfectly reasonable, but technologically, how can you justify running Linux instead?
Re:Quick Question (Score:1)
Here's a reason: you can't run OS X on x86 hardware. I'm not talking about the cost issue: you also can't get the latest graphics cards, etc. However, as far as I'm concerned there are plenty of technological reasons in favour of OS X, which by far outweigh the above: I don't run it because I can't find a reason not to run it, I run it because there are so many reasons to run it.
Re:Quick Question (Score:3, Informative)
There have been a number of bug reports [sourceforge.net] about it.
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It seems they've been busy coding
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Apple and IBM have been growing closer together, as a result of a) Apple using IBM's processors in their workstations, and b) IBM and Apple both rediscovering UNIX, esp the OSS kind.
Although IBM and Apple are just dating, I think that there are plans to have each other meet their parents. Doesn't it strike you as curious that IBM branded workstations a) ship with Windows, when IBM is pushing Linux and b) ship with a competitors CPU? Is it so curious that IBM might blush a little that OS X is non-windows and uses their own CPU?
Read through the Developer Site for Linux on POWER processors, and you'll find more than a few references to Yellow Dog Linux [yellowdoglinux.com], which is Linux for PPC (particularly Macs) and even includes as a prize [ibm.com] in a developer competition a new Apple G5 (with YDL pre-installed). Interesting that IBM doesn't see fit to award their own brand of personal computer, which I think underscores my point. Do they think that a G5 is somehow more desireable than a ThinkCentre?
And it's working on me: as a long time Apple tech supporter, I'm now in the position to recommend Windows PCs; and when I do, I rec IBMs. And not Dells.
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Or, I could realize that I have just wasted many minutes of my life futiley responding to trolls who don't know better. Now I remember why I don't usually talk to mac users, never mind asking them a reasonable question for which they can give me no satisfactory answer. Instead, they like to use ad hominem to "win" their position.
Developper ? (Score:3, Funny)
sloppppy
Re:Developper ? (Score:3, Funny)
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Reminds me of a software project I worked on where the main PL/SQL developer spelt password as "passsword" for all of the security stuff.
Man, that was a pain in the ass to work on later on! Not only to remember how it was spelt for that project, but I caught myself spelling it that way on other projects. I'm still scarred.
(Yes, Thor, I mean you!!!)
Re:Developper ? (Score:2, Interesting)
hehe you have to do that in mysql too because password is a reserved word
I used passwurd and it has caught me out a few times going back to maintain it.
On a hard, level surface. (Score:1, Interesting)
OK so were's all the PowerPC hardware development kits? And no Apple doesn't count.
Re:On a hard, level surface. (Score:4, Informative)
http://tinyurl.com/6r5nv
The Blade Center JS20 from IBM also looks nice:
http://tinyurl.com/62z9p
And there's the Pegasos:
http://www.pegasosppc.com/
Well, not much but IBM has been doing a lot to promote the PPC platform, blame the vendors.
Lack of cheap deskop hardware (Score:1, Flamebait)
Re:Lack of cheap deskop hardware (Score:3, Informative)
www.pegasosppc.com has cheap PPC hardware.
A Power-processor/system can hardly be cheap, simply because it is a more powerful and advanced chip than cheap chips (like x86/PPC).
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opendarwin? (Score:2)
IBM & Apple (Score:3, Interesting)
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C is the old "clones" argument. That's been tried and killed off once. The problem is when the clone makers start to make high-end systems.
D would be interesting, but right now the Windows/Office combo is so entrenched that they can't do that. Micros
Emulators (Score:3, Informative)
QEMU and Pear both have useable PowerPC emulators. Hercules is still going strong.
I think I'll mosey on over and pick up the chip specs. I'll see if I cannot con, I mean encourgae, a few AIX geeks to get that runnning under Qemu or Pear. Then a hop skip and a jump and I'll get the one emulator I want.