Anti-Wi-Fi Wallpaper 233
Alephcat writes "New Scientist is reporting on a wallpaper that can prevent hackers accessing secure networks via Wi-Fi - without blocking mobile phone signals - that's been developed by a British defence contractor. It is based on covert 'stealth' technology that was originally designed to hide military radars."
Where'd The Town Go? (Score:5, Funny)
"Heathrow Tower, we can see London, but RADAR says it doesn't exist, then this weird music starts playing and this guy gets up from his seat with a big book and says we've entered some twilight thingie!"
Anti Wi-Fi neighbor!! (Score:4, Interesting)
Set up my wireless access point as a deliberatelly unprotected box and watched packets fly by my router... Seems one of my neighbors was quite into high-bandwidth images and videos - guess he had a script or something to make downloading faster. Pretty effective denial of service attack on the WiFi access point.
Re:Anti Wi-Fi neighbor!! (Score:3, Interesting)
That's fine... but (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:That's fine... but (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:That's fine... but (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, how hard is it to run IPSEC over the network?!?
Re:That's fine... but (Score:2)
Seems like a far more sensible (and cheap) way to deal with the insecurity of wireless networks is to use frickin' secure protocols!
Or you could simply use wired networks.
Re:That's fine... but (Score:3, Interesting)
In situations where wired networks are a good solution I see absolutely no reason to use wireless networks - wired networks are faster, more reliable, more secure. However there are a lot of situations where wireless networks are useful - I have a wireless network so I can move my notebook anywhere in my house without having to get tangled up in long network cables. On a factory floor I can see many times where you might want to access the corporate LAN or the inte
Re:That's fine... but (Score:3, Interesting)
Deja Vu (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Deja Vu (Score:5, Funny)
I bet (Score:2)
www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=n
plus wood is so much more stylish than wallpaper
Re:I bet (Score:3, Informative)
you only saved me 2 clicks :-) (Score:3, Insightful)
oi vey (Score:2)
1280x1024? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:2)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:1280x1024? (Score:2)
For those not aware, divide the width by height on the common resultions, all are 4/3 except 1280x1024 (5/4), with 1280x960 being the closest good-ratio resolution. The net of it being something designed for 1280x1024 looks strangely tall on a sane resolution, and something designed for san
Re:1280x1024? (Score:2)
Here are the settings I used:
Powerstrip screencap [dpk.net]
Everyone get ready.... (Score:3, Funny)
New Hats! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:New Hats! (Score:2)
What, you want me to put wallpaper on my windows? (Score:3, Insightful)
Get real... the people who want security in the first place WON'T USE WIFI.
It'll never make it to market.
Re:What, you want me to put wallpaper on my window (Score:2, Informative)
I'm sure there are a number of uses for this which have little to do with securing one's own wireless LAN.
Re:What, you want me to put wallpaper on my window (Score:4, Informative)
Re:What, you want me to put wallpaper on my window (Score:2)
That depends.
How much chocolate would I get?
Don't be too hasty... (Score:3, Insightful)
Uninformed people want security, too, they just don't know it until they've been violated or 0wn3d. One former CIO thought WI-FI was extremely cool until I started showing him the stuff about War-Chalking on Slashdot. Funny reaction, though, seemed I was part of some problem by revealing such things. Must be the PHB self-defense mechanism kicking in... 'didn't make mistake, peon warning of possible security holes is actualy prob
Re:Don't be too hasty... (Score:2)
Once they have you pigeonholed on their blacklist, your ability to be effective will be much diminished beyond anything they think it is safe for you to do, and your opportunities for moving around and/or up in the company will be sharply curtailed.
Just
Mod parent down...didn't RTFA (Score:2, Informative)
that rogue APs are a concern (Strike 1),
that they are working on transparent window treatments (Strike 2), and
that they have considered market pricing (Strike 3).
Re:What, you want me to put wallpaper on my window (Score:3, Insightful)
Hospitals and doctors offices would be especially interested to help keep their information inside their walls and further comply with regulations.
They would likely make mo
Re:What, you want me to put wallpaper on my window (Score:3, Informative)
But I think you are right, people who want security won't use Computers
Re:What, you want me to put wallpaper on my window (Score:2)
No - people who want real security will use secure protocols over WiFi. I want security, and as such I run IPSEC over my WEP encrypted 802.11g network.
Of course a bit of driving around Southampton (UK) [nexusuk.org] shows that there are a hell of a lot of insecure networks and a worrying number where the access points are left in their factory default configuration.
People who don't understand security should not be allowed to set up any publi
Why limit themselves? (Score:2, Insightful)
But... I want it to block cell phones as well.
And lining the whole house in foil just looks way too shiney for normal use...
Does it go both ways? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Does it go both ways? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Does it go both ways? (Score:2)
Put in conducting patterns along the lines of a zone plate, and maybe. That'll be directional, and only work in some places in the room, though.
What this amounts to is an RF lens, being used as you would use an RF dish.
Re:Does it go both ways? (Score:2)
For this you will need to send inverse-polarity tachyon pulses into a time-flux capacitor. Don't forget to modulate the pulses at your shield frequency.
Anti Military Radar... (Score:5, Funny)
OK, I Admit It (Score:3, Funny)
RP
Re:OK, I Admit It (Score:2)
Well, if a) your access point can be set to intercept all HTTP requests and send back a specific web page/image, and b) that image happens to be the goatsex guy, or tubgirl....
Same principal as a microwave door. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Same principal as a microwave door. (Score:2)
Yeah, the wallpaper is basically a big RF choke.
Re:Same principal as a microwave door. (Score:2)
What happens in the stealth case, is that a collection of molecules absorb electromagnetic radiation to excite thier vibrational states. The wavelength range absorbed of the radiation is dependent and on the ord
Re:Same principal as a microwave door. (Score:3, Interesting)
So this makes most houses improved in the late 80's wifi-proof.
I simply extended the aluminum screening all the way up in all windows and effectively cut off all the neighbors. the only leak points I have are the front door window and the sliding glass door in back, both fixable with a
Re:Same principal as a microwave door. (Score:2)
Re:Same principal as a microwave door. (Score:2)
cince wifi is 2.4ghz it's highly directional, and is absorbed by living things (trees) the signals spilling out UPwards will not be reflected by the trees.
why go high tech and spend gobs when low tech works just as well and does the same job.
I have no problems with cellphone coverage in the house, nobody can get a signal on my
Fantastic! (Score:2)
Just like in The Omen (Score:2)
Was it in the first Omen movie where the guy had a room that was papered with pages from the Bible in order to keep Satan out?
Re:Just like in The Omen (Score:2)
Faraday cages, while blocking EM waves, also do a damn find job of blocking Satan. Apparently the Prince of Darkness propogates just like radio.
The guy in the movie must have bought the New King James Maxwell Bible.
Finally! (Score:2, Funny)
That just might be the anser for me (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:That just might be the anser for me (Score:2)
Re:That just might be the anser for me (Score:2)
Well, WEP may stop an amateur wardriver but not a determined attacker: an attacker who can access the packets can certainly mount a known-plaintext attack and often a chosen-plaintext attack. Limiting access by MAC can reduce the possibility of chosen-plaintext attacks, and physically limiting transmission radius is a good way to lower the cyphertext's exposure and prolong known-plaintext brute force attacks. And obviously, if you're concerned about security, you're going to want to also encrypt whatever hi
Re:That just might be the anser for me (Score:2)
Voila. Is it REALLY that hard?
Re:That just might be the anser for me (Score:2)
Re:That just might be the anser for me (Score:2)
But I use all I can do to stall
NonBroadcasting SSID
WEP at 128
Mac Address Filtering
Located in an area so that it has weak signal by the time it gets to the inside walls.
And it is to the people around unreliable, it could go out for a whole day, or weekend (when I am out of town, or don't care to get
Can't see my wife liking this new wallpaper (Score:2, Funny)
HUSBAND: "I know, honey -- it sounds bad, but think of all the information we have flying through the house and out the walls because we don't have this anti-wifi wallpaper in every room."
WIFE: "What information? You mean three to four hours every Friday and Saturday night of video game data? Are you scared the hacker children next door will get your serial number? Are you scared that THEY to
I don't know ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, cuz most amateur users are going to install special wallpaper
I understand that some compaines may want this, and it is a cool idea, but if you are going to use Wi-Fi you have better do your best to secure it, not just pray you can keep everyone out with some wall paper.
Re:I don't know ... (Score:4, Interesting)
I use a firewall, but I also patch my machines. Some people skip the second step until the first or second time someone brings in a laptop from home and connects it to the internal network, which brings me to the point about running software firewalls on individual machines in addition to the one at the router.
I agree that this wallpaper is better as a backup defense rather than a primary one, but plays an important part nonetheless. Home laptops are being pushed with WiFi now.
Gives a whole new meaning to... (Score:2)
Well, I better go and line my TFH with some Anti-Wi-Fi wallpaper.
What is this? (Score:2)
energy conservation (Score:2)
Re:energy conservation (Score:2)
Re:energy conservation (Score:2)
Hey I got a crazy idea (Score:2)
WiFi will never be secure. So decide if you want security or convenience.
fair play (Score:2)
Yes, the greatest battle since Freddy vs Jason! (please see the recent photoshop contest at Fark.com for others)
Huh? (Score:2)
How can you hide a radar? It needs to transmit enough power in it's area of interest to cause a strong enough reflection to detect. Putting an RF shield around it would be pointless surly?
Cost effective??? (Score:5, Insightful)
Wouldn't it be easier and less expensive to:
Re:Cost effective??? (Score:2)
Re:Cost effective??? (Score:2)
Helps wardrivers find the good stuff... (Score:4, Insightful)
the numbers that shape your world (Score:2)
Replace tinfoil hat with new wallpaper. : 34,109
D'oh! I thought they meant Windows desktop! D'oh! I'm a friggin' idiot! D'oh! : 14,951
"Firewallpaper" : 12,520
Capture the RF energy into a capacitatory dongle and have perpetual motion! Ha ha HAAAA! Global domination! : 1954
This is a repost! Death to the reposters! Die! Die! Die! Arrrgghhhh! (gurgle) : 675
In Soviet Russia, wall papers you! : -1
Polarising Filter (Score:3, Insightful)
Old stuff (Score:2)
Slow news day?
I have a better idea... (Score:3, Insightful)
wouldn't this really screw up in-office wifi? (Score:2, Insightful)
Smells like a conspiracy to me. (Score:5, Funny)
Anti-Wifi Wallpaper on Queer Eye (Score:2)
Martha: Prison Bitch (Score:2)
Re:Martha: Prison Bitch (Score:2)
Now you see me - now you don't (Score:2)
If you have the version with Diodes, it blocks 2.4, 5 and 6 frequencies by default.
If you run a current trough the diodes, it'll work like a sheet of copper and block pretty much everything.
But it will have to come down in price before I coat my house with it, it's more than $100 per square foot.
Chaff (Score:2)
Tinfoil house? (Score:2)
Don't treat the symptoms (Score:2)
This is a nice option, it is a good idea to make sure your installation is that little bit 'extra clean'.
Don't forget there will still be holes. Roof, floor, ventilation. Then any repaired walls or windows will need this treatment. I know many places would love the opportunity to save a few dollars on the next broken window.
New Wallpaper 2.0 (Score:2, Funny)
selective interference (Score:2, Interesting)
In this case the spacing of the 2 reflective layer is tuned to allow maxium transmission of GSM and 3G signal; the reflection wave from first copper layer is 180^ out of phase with the reflection wave from the second copper layer.
IMO this wallpaper will block EVERYTHING and just allows the mobile channels to go through.
Who needs wallpaper when you can just fight back? (Score:5, Funny)
I leave my WiFi wide open (Score:2)
Great stuff -- Enforce no mobile phones! (Score:3, Interesting)
There is quite a bit of information (in books, not http) how to do this. Is about as 'hi-tech' as anti-theft tags on CDs. At five or ten bucks a m^2 there would definitely be a market for a variety of purposes, and frequencies, including wlan. This beats the hell out of active jamming. Except for perhaps the US, this is definitely NOT patentable.
Re:*ahem* (Score:2)
This wallpaper is to keep people OUT, not to keep people IN.
Re:WEP? (Score:2, Interesting)
Security is a process, not a milepost that can be passed. Risks need to be constantly re-evaluated and addressed. You can bet that UKP500/m^2 is a small price for a Gov't agency to pay to protect secrets that could cause lives to be lost should they leak. And that also goes for military contractors too.
Re:Expensive! (Score:2, Funny)
That is some expensive "stuff"....
Re:Dupe? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Apparently not needed in old houses (Score:2)
Re:Old technology (Score:2)
No wonder the BXA classifies encryption as a munition [doc.gov]!
( Cue Keanu Reeves: Whoa! )