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Nokia 7700 - "Multimedia Terminal" 161

Posted by CmdrTaco from the get-your-lust-on dept.
howler.fi writes "Nokia today announced a Series 90 -based "multimedia terminal", the Nokia 7700. It's not really a phone or a PDA, but something inbetween. The device sports nicely sized 65k touch screen and the usual features you'd expect from a device like this. Should offer interesting competition for the Sony-Ericsson P900, though the 7700 is not expected to ship until Q2/04."
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  • infoSync's coverage (Score:5, Informative)

    by holygoat ( 564732 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:11AM (#7327703)
    http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4237.html [infosyncworld.com]

    Pictures, and running a damn sight faster than Nokia's site for me!

    • Re:infoSync's coverage (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      OK other stuff... This uses an OMAP CPU/DSP it will have hardware accelerated video, sound and OpenGL graphics. The MMC is hot swappable from the side, MP3, 3GPP, and Real Media plus the TV Adapter. Mobile Opera rocks. Touch screen is nice. Its multitasking it good. This is the n-gage done RIGHT.

      I work for the elves, and I have used an early hardware version.

  • Nokia design team needs to be fired (Score:5, Funny)

    by KU_Fletch ( 678324 ) <bthomas1@NOsPam.ku.edu> on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:12AM (#7327713)
    It might not be a phone, it might not be a PDA, but it shure as hell looks like the back of a pair of Etnies I used to wear.

  • Nice try, but it's no Sidekick (Score:5, Informative)

    by ChaoticChaos ( 603248 ) * <l3sr-v4cf&spamex,com> on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:14AM (#7327726)
    I keep waiting for a device that has the functionality of my T-Mobile Sidekick (IM, email, web browsing, phone, scheduler, notes, etc.) that is as thoughtfully made (screen flips up to reveal a solid thumb-board and every bit of data I enter is automatically backed up on T-Mobile's servers) that is anywhere close to the price point ($300).

    I bet this Nokia device is plenty expensive and I could send out an email 10 times faster with my Sidekick thumb-board than you could peck one out with the stylus on this device (if you could find your stylus ;-) ).

    http://www.t-mobile.com/products/overview.asp?ph on eid=195184
    • For a guy called "ChaoticChaos", you sure are a marketing company's dream. By the way, I bet this 7700 doesn't play music anywhere near as well as my iPod ($299) [apple.com], nor does it sync with Outlook as well as my Toshiba e755 ($399) [toshiba.com].
    • That's not really a resolution you want to browse the web on. I do it on a Clie at 320x320 regularly and even that's painful - and that's more than 2.5 times the amount of pixels on a Sidekick.
    • T-Mobile doesn't offer service in North Carolina, you insensitive clod!!!
    • I keep waiting for a device that has the functionality of my T-Mobile Sidekick

      And what, pray tell, will you do when you find such a device? There's no way to get your data out of your sidekick should you decide to switch. You're locked in, dude.

      Next time, try a syncable device.

      -Isaac

    • I should sure hope it's no Sidekick.

      The T-Mobile SideKick/Danger HipTop user forums detail the endless quality problems that plague this device. Some people have gone through as many as 6 or 7 different units because they just *keep on failing*.

      Besides the awful quality control problems, it also makes an awful phone: the speaker is terrible and the radio performance is astonishingly weak. Some people actually need a phone that works well and reliably over the long term.

      • Keep in mind that satisfied people don't post!

        I purchased a Black-and-White Sidekick day **1** when they started selling. I never had one problem with that unit and carry it with me (and use it!) every waking moment.

        I purchased a Color Sidekick about a month after they were available. Same story. Not one problem.

        I have no idea what a person has to do to a Sidekick to cause it go out. Keep in mind that you can't do the following with a Sidekick and you'll be okay:
        1) You can't roll a motorcycle with a Si
    • I keep waiting for something like the Sidekick that isn't tied to a single GSM provider, and doesn't turn into a paperweight if I decided to switch phone company. No way am I paying $300 for something that locks me to a single company. Either unlock it, or give it away for $50.
  • looks pretty cool...but will it still be cool in several years when the price comes down to where I can justify purchasing one? Something tells me these will be very expensive to begin with, which most likely will hurt sales.

  • Sega Game Gear (Score:3, Insightful)

    by rf0 ( 159958 ) <rghf@fsck.me.uk> on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:14AM (#7327733) Homepage
    Does this remind anyone eles of the Sega Game Gear? It looks more like Nokia is going for a gaming stance. Get a TV tuner and put that onto it. Won't be able to tell the difference

    Rus

    • Re:Sega Game Gear (Score:4, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:22AM (#7327795)
      There already is a TV tuner for it..

      The Nokia 7700 will also support the Nokia Streamer SU-6 accessory, the first mobile IP Datacast receiver designed to demonstrate the mobile phone television experience using the DVB-H network. The Nokia Streamer can be attached to the Nokia 7700 like a battery pack, and will be used in pilot projects to showcase the future of digital broadcasting on mobile devices.

      This is from the press release [nokia.com].

    • That's actually exactly what I was thinking of when I was looking at the picture as well. It would be horrible trying to hold a device of this shape to your ears or in a single hand like the Palm Pilots, but it seems ideal for games and multimedia. The 640x320 resolution would be great for small media files, and as much as I dislike Flash, being able to browse Flash-enabled sites could be good at certain times.

      This isn't something that I would purchase myself since I like the combination of my cell phone

    • Where's the GBA.. er, Nokia SDK?

      If it is supposed to be cell-phoneable, it should have a retractable earpiece/mic line. Gods, why hasn't anyone done that yet? It leads to so many fools driving while holding a phone to their ears...

      I don't think I could take this one, though, unless purely as a game machine. Does the screen act as the keypad too? Ugh, there goes battery life as you hit the backlight display to figure out what to dial...

      8-PP
    • Does this remind anyone eles of the Sega Game Gear? It looks more like Nokia is going for a gaming stance.

      what?! they've given up on their N-GAGE already?
  • Personally, I can't imagine wanting one of these. Once again, they try to stuff something into a technology that, to me, doesn't fit. Who wants a tv/phone? You already have digital video cameras that you can watch the output on a screen the size of this thing. Who wants to pause their viewing/recording to answer a call? There's already PDA phones to handle the rest of the applications that this will.

    I just don't see this as any more than a toy, and not terribly useful.

    • Re:Yet Another Do_It_All item (Score:4, Funny)

      by KU_Fletch ( 678324 ) <bthomas1@NOsPam.ku.edu> on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:18AM (#7327764)
      Who wants to pause their viewing/recording to answer a call?

      Apparently people in Finland do...
    • bitch moan moan bitch toy bitch moan stuff moan moan bitch moan bitch not useful bitch bitch bitch bitch moan bitch phone moan moan bitch
    • Well I'm still waiting for a device that plays MP3s (with a storage the size of iPod), a PDA which runs linux (and a pullout keyboard) and a cellphone, all in one. I want to be able to jot down notes while talking on the phone but dont want to carry around an extra headphone, so I want a headphone whose cable goes inside the device when Im not talking,spring loaded or something (I should be able to just pull it out and use it, kinda like a telescopic antenna on radios but with a flexible wire instead of a s
      • That's a much handier device than a tv/video camera/phone. Your description of it makes quite a bit of sense. But I have yet to hear anyone say "Man, I wish I could have a tv in my hand that shoots video, and also rings in phone calls. I'd like nothing more than to pause video footage of my son's football game to answer a telemarketer." Maybe I'm Abby Normal, but I think I would prefer that those two stay as two seperate devices. I suppose watching Nokia's sales on this item could prove me wrong.
        • Thats true. I like to keep Video and photography for devices that are made for it. No matter how good the digital technology gets, you really cant substitute good (and probably large sized) lenses with software. I think this wave of cameraphones is because somebody thought "Oh, since we are putting a high res. LCD color display, why not slap in another photosensitive unit and a lens and I then have a cameraphone". And of course when somebody does it everybody else has to.
    • it looks more like a new 'flagship', high-end product than your average consumer phone(for which nokia has a range of phones for), it's just evolutionary model in many ways anyways(communicator without flip, aimed at the young adults with money on their hands). they pretty much wouldn't except everyone to want one, but it makes a fine product for showcasing technology(which the previews suggest it to be used for anyways).

      slap a 512mb mmc into the mmc slot(full of pr.. i mean.. documentaries).. should make
  • But it functions as a phone, so which side do you hold to your head, and does it look more or less retarded than talking on an n-gage?

  • The Form Factor is all wrong (Score:4, Insightful)

    by gsdali ( 707124 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:15AM (#7327743)
    in common with the 3300 and the N-Gage you have to hold it edge on to your head to use the phone which looks silly, is counter intuitive and means you can't wedge the phone between chin and shoulder. It's also quite large. too big for a trouser pocket. Too much like the cancer bricks of the 80s.

    It has a tiny memory capacity (64Mb) and only upgradable in cards of 128Mb and i assume like the N-Gage and 3300 you have to remove the back and the battery to swap cards.

    I'm not averse to accessing all my data through my phone but currently the Sony Erricsson T610 provides the best way of accessing it. Small, light, good battery life. Both this and the P-8/900 are too big for me.

    Mobile media, I'll stick to my iPod.
    • i assume like the N-Gage and 3300 you have to remove the back and the battery to swap cards.

      To swap memory you mean?

      I played with an N-Gage once. Note, you do not have to remove the battery to swap a game. You had to remove the back and battery IIRC to change the memory card. The the memory I think is understandable since I guess you'd only swap memory cards once in a while.

      All in all, the machine was a lot cooler than the impression I got from slashdot.

      • N-Gage games come on the same type of cards as the memory card (MMC). So to play these special N-Gage games, you not only have to remove the battery, you have to swap the memory card with the game card.

    • As i mentioned in my other post, this is an excellent form factor for reading books.
    • If you really need to wedge the thing between your shoulder and your chin, you're screwed. In such case you really should be using a handsfree (Bluetooth or wired), or the speakerphone anyway. I haven't seen anyone wedge their mobile phone like that in the last few years anyway, since most are too small to hold that way. That's like trying to hold your wallet between your shoulder and your chin - not gonna work, and extremely uncomfortable.

      64MB of internal RAM is plenty for a Symbian device! It's far more
      • Clearly you've never seen me pace about the room with a tiny phone inconveniently wedged between shoulder and chin. I've never really been convinced by handsfree not least because the things either fall out of my ear or look far to Britney Spears for my liking

        (call me an old fuddyduddy if you like, but it's mainly that I like to keep the number of pieces of kit i carry around with me to a minimum, now if someone could make a handsfree kit that worked inline with the headphones i use with my iPod)

        The featu

  • Interesting form factor (Score:4, Interesting)

    by binaryDigit ( 557647 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:16AM (#7327745)
    I guess bluetooth might be the tech that opens up the phone market (at least on the high end). Looking at all the info, you scarcely see anything related to using the thing as a phone (or maybe it's too early and my bleary eyes missed something). I'm assuming that you HAVE to use a bluetooth headset with the thing, lord knows the form factor doesn't exactly lend itself to putting it up to your head like a traditional phone.

  • From the site (Score:3, Interesting)

    by dolo666 ( 195584 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:16AM (#7327747) Journal
    The Nokia 7700 will also support the Nokia Streamer SU-6 accessory, the first mobile IP Datacast receiver designed to demonstrate the mobile phone television experience using the DVB-H network.

    Sounds great! What would be really cool, is if you could set up tivo at home and phone it!
    • Might be worthwhile, but I'd rather DAB on a phone just because I am less bothered about watching Tv on the move than listening to the Radio.

  • Should've focused more on appearance (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Xeth ( 614132 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:16AM (#7327752) Journal
    The bottom line that a lot of companies seem to be missing is that most people don't want to put something that looks like a big shoehorn, or otherwise bulky object, next to their head to talk. This is why people are going for sleeker, slimmer phones. I really think that these sort of hybrid devices won't sell well unless the manufacturers heavily stress using a small hands-free headset for actual use as a cell phone.

  • Phones.. now with television (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    According to Reuters [reuters.co.uk] there's television as well..

  • TheFeature's coverage (Score:3, Informative)

    by haunebu ( 16326 ) * on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:20AM (#7327782) Homepage
    There's a bit more info about the Nokia 7700 available on TheFeature [thefeature.com] as well.

  • Why? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by secondsun ( 195377 ) <secondsun@gmail.com> on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:21AM (#7327785) Journal
    Why would someone want one of these? It costs more than a cell phone or PDA separatly and has less functionality than both.
  • Nokia used to make really solid mobile phones. The 5110, the 3210, the 3310 and more lately, the 6610. Then came the completely silly models. Like the 3530 and the 3300. Nokia's designers seem to have been smoking crack with all the money they've earnt.

  • 640x320 is pretty good! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jeroenb ( 125404 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:25AM (#7327812) Homepage
    First thing I checked was ofcourse the screen's resolution and it turns out it sports 640x320 [nokia.com]. That's very good! Especially since close competitors (like the P900) only have 320x208 [sonyericsson.com]. Even some of the big-screen PDA's currently out like the Palm Tungsten T3 and the clamshell Sony Clie's only have 480x320. Even Sony's latest UX50 has that resolution [clieplaza.com] and if I'm not mistaken so does the latest Zaurus.

    640x320 is finally something you can seriously browse the web on!
    • Well, the P900 is available more or less now (or *very* soon and the P800 has been available for a long time). It'll be another 8 months before that thing is going to be available (if they make it - who knows if it will be delayed?). Basically, it's vaporware and who knows what Sony Ericsson and others have come up with then?
    • The Zaurus c7XX line has a 640x480 resolution. The screen is superb.

    • Yes it is. Unfortunatly, it has a camera. I'm wondering when that hype will go out again because I'm unable to find a decent phone to my specs:

      Good colorscreen (65k colors) with good resolution

      Simple, clean and clear customizable interface (forget siemens, unfortunatly) with good performance (read: fast reacting)

      Long battery life

      Decent keyboard (no odd, flashy layouts, easy to touch type)

      Light (less than 100g)

      Bluetooth and IR

      Good phonebook (with fully customizable groups, lots of info fields per entr

    • I am currently browsing the web on my IBM AT, and I have 640x480 resolution. And it is entirely acceptable. I have only one eye, however.

    • Not necessarily. The Sony UX-50 has a 480x320 screen, but it's such a tiny 480x320 screen that the text is pretty much unreadable even if you have good eyesight. The Palm T3, while only slightly bigger, is a lot more visible at the same resolution.

      So the first question I find myself asking about this Nokia is, how big is the screen?
  • I just took a look at the technical spec.s on this thing and apparently it can use MP3's for ringtones... It also is tri-band (though most GSM based phones are now-a-days) which isn't too bad either, the A/V quality (spec. wise) seems to be pretty impressive, as well as the camera built in. All in all, if this thing had a decent way to talk into it (like holding it up to your ear) , and it wan't to cumbersome, I'd get it for sure
    • the A/V quality (spec. wise) seems to be pretty impressive, as well as the camera built in

      You're kidding, right? Camera: 640x480 pixel resolution; 2x digital zoom

      I have the Nokia 3650 with a 640x480 camera, and I'm happy with it. But my phone was free after rebate [amazon.com] - good luck finding the 7700 for under $400. For that price, can we PLEASE get a decent a camera???

  • Stop complaining (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BraveSlice ( 702315 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:33AM (#7327870)
    Stop complaining. These ugly & expensive & too big devices with too many funktions are the ones witch are making technology to walk forward. You don't have to buy it, some tech freaks will, and thx to them next generation devices are actually better.
    • You don't have to buy it, some tech freaks will

      Not even the tech freaks are buying the N-Gage, though.

      To me this looks like another unsellable Nokia monstrosity. If I owned any Nokia stock, I'd be selling it.
  • I RTFA'd and also read the InfoSync article. Despite clues being all around me on the ground, i can't seem to determine how this device would connect to the internet. Is it via cellular, or do I have to have a wi-fi network lying around?
  • UGH, Nokia is on smack latley.

    Ah, well happy with my new MOTO/Nextel i730 :)

  • Looks like that dodgey N-Gauge thingy to me - don't realy fancy a phone that makes me look like a prick when I hold it to my head tho :( Don't people realise hands free has one use only - driving.
    • I fail to understand why people would look stupid talking to an n-gage or 7700. I can talk to an n-gage or any phone and look completely normal.

      It is no more or less stupid than talking to any other phone, or talking in general. People who think it is stupid would have had to gasp for more air if they would have seen the first person talking to the first phone in the world, finally bursting into manic laughter, "look, how stupid!" -- or the first singer singing to a microphone, "oh, how stupid can that be

  • Call me a nerd... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Alkonaut ( 604183 )
    But I don't want a tv in my phone, heck I'm not sure I want a tiny camera in my phone. If something isn't really needed it means that space/weight could have been used for something better. Is there no phone that just meets the average nerds requirements? All the manufacturers just seem to push unecessary technology to feed a non-existing hype. -If my phone must have a huge color screen, it's gotta be able to browse the web in some way -If it's got a web browser it needs at least a couple of ways of conne
    • It is quite nice being able photo your children when you are on summer picnic - even if you forgot the camera. I really like my Nokia 3650.

      You seem to be igonrant about the browser, just use Nokias browser or download Opera.

      On your last remark on batteries, the main difference between PocketPC and phones is that phones have better battery time, with an expense of some 30-50% less CPU power.

      It seems that many people are whining about these new Nokia phones, and mostly because they are not sufficiently ge

  • the opera guys might be making real money now... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by alexander m ( 567750 ) on Tuesday October 28, 2003 @09:57AM (#7328066) Homepage

    ...and i've got to say i'm happy for them. this and the other nokia series 60/90 phones all use opera for their web browser. that and a design win with adobe, and the fact that it runs natively on windows, linux, freeBSD, AND solaris. well, i think it's worth applauding the fact that small innovative comapnise CAN actually succeed on merit! well done guys... :-)
    • operas strange position in the browser market has already had a negative effect on open standards development, just ask any of the w3c members that have had to trek up to oslo to negotiate...

      as the primary mobile handset browser, they are not really interested in implementing anything past css-2.
  • Anybody following _Cathy_ this week? I think there's a lot of pent-up demand out there for *simple* phones with a small feature set -- you know, dial number and get connected, someone dials you and phone rings, when connected you can talk and listen, that's it. A telephone. Remember telephones?

    I'm treating this StarTac *very* carefully, because if it breaks I'll have to accept a monster with 10x as many features as the set I don't use 10% of now.
    • These gadgets are for 2 types of people:
      1) Posers:
      Oooo , look what I've got , look what it can do , arn't I a sophisticated going places dude owning this gadget?
      2) Losers:
      They need something to be able to occupy them 24/7 to take their mind off the fact that they have no friends and no life. What better than
      a portable all in one gadget. Ok it has a phone section they'll never use other than to call mummy@home but its got everything else your
      Aspergers syndrome sufferer could ever need.
  • Why is it the editors at /. seem to think every new phone come PDA that "is due out real soon" is a story? Does anyone really care?

    A) They're dull , boring gadgets for geeks with too much money.
    B) They never live up to the hype, the gaming/viewing experience is still a joke.
    C) They're all the same bar a few extra megs of memory or yet-another-app-you'll-never-use-but-sounds-kool

    Stories like this should be relagated to a special gadgets section , NOT be on the main page , especially if they're po
    • >They never live up to the hype, the gaming/viewing experience is still a joke.

      I enjoy playing mobile chess and reversi, and my children like Zoe's adventure. I like Morus, a in-progress multiplayer server-based medieval wargame.

      You seem to be expecting wrong things about gaming. There is more gaming than just shoot-em-up.


    • Because the kickbacks from Nokia pay for this site. What did you think? Next you'll be telling me there were compelling story reasons to have Coca Cola and Camels in every movie.
  • What does "Series 90" mean? What are the different Series? What does it mean if a model is of the same Series as another?

    I *just* bought a 3300, love it -- BUT it has no accompanying sofware suite (contrary to salesperson (never make impulse decision, why this time.. oh well)). I am looking for apps for the unit so I can *not* carry my E100 for simple notes / pword lists etc. How do I know what software runs on my model -- all from the Same Series? how do i identify the series of a model?
    • The term 'Series XX' refers a specification that groups frameworks which provide a common programming base and physical similarities. That way a developer who wants to make an application or service will develop it according to the Series specification, thus making his software compatible with all the terminals that follow that specification.

      So, all Series 60 devices wil have the same operating system (Symbian OS), same screen size and same user interface. Series 60 is recognized as the "Smartphone" specif

    • Re:Q for Nokia/Cell geek (Score:3, Informative)

      by ecki ( 115356 )
      Here you go:
      • Series 40: Nokia proprietary OS
      • Series 60: Symbian OS based, one-handed operation, UI developed by Nokia, licensed to other OEMs
      • Series 80: Symbian OS based, keyboad-centric, closest to the original Symbian/EPOC world
      • Series 90: Symbian OS based, PDA-centric (pen input), UI developed by Nokia

      As you see, everything but Series 40 is Symbian-based. That means that applications which are UI-independent can be used across S60-S90. Otherwise, a UI adaption layer is necessary.

      Within say Series 6

    • 3300 is Series 40.

      See: Nokia Developer Platforms [nokia.com]

  • I vote for one device (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Most people don't seem to mind carrying a backpack full of gadgets around wherever they go. For a longer trip, they need another backpack for chargers and other accessories. Lucky them, they are sure to get the best quality for all functions.

    There's also no point for them to cry about cellphone manufacturers making these devices which combine several functions into one device - all they want from them is a phone for making calls, and there's A LOT choice in that category! There's also very little more to d
  • Until I can go to Nokia and buy a phone and use it on T-Mobile and then switch to AT&T or Cingular and keep my phone, B-F-D :(
    • You can change the operator, keep your phone number, and the operator change is free (as in free beer) and the zero cost of the operator change is enforced by the law... umm ...but only in Finland. I hate to see you foreigners fooled by your mobile operators, and feel sorry for you.
      • We can do that in the UK too - in theory the network operator can charge for a PAC (Porting Authorisation Code) but most don't (as this page [mobiles.co.uk] says, "[if they charge then] that may be as good a reason as any to switch".

        Of course, if you're using the same phone on the new network then the locking problem applies. However in the case of moving network it's usually a case of calling the existing network and asking for it to be unlocked - again, they may charge but I believe most don't under those circumstances

    • Um... you can. If you buy a phone direct from Nokia it won't be locked to a network, and you can swamp SIM cards as much as you like. And if you get one via a deal with a network you can get the phone unlocked relatively cheaply at any slightly dodgy local phone emporium.

      (I'm assuming that T-Mobile, AT&T and Cingular are all GSM, of course - if they aren't, then forget I said anything...)
  • From the Technical Specifications on Nokia's site: "Word, Sheet, and Presentation Viewer; Word & Sheet converter" That sure sounds alot like Hancom Office to me (think Zaurus). They use the same names as Hancom for the three applications. Anyone know for sure? Also, is the underlying operating system *nix based in some way. If they are talking about Hancom Office it must be somewhat similar for such a port, not the mention the port of Opera. Asuming this is true, think of the hackability of this
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  • Had to replace my motorola v60 vlip cell phone. Got a new ericsson t2260 something on the new AT&T GSM network.

    KNow what? Fuck all the bells & whistles give me an intelligent UI and let it do the damn basics of what a phone should do.

    Until the cell phone companies get the basics of making and receiving calls down to a science don't start throwing in a thousand useless extras.

    Pictures and MMS? Sounds? Useless. Color screen? again, useless eats up batterylife
  • Wow. From the look I see on Nokia's site, they expect this to play movies and Nokia seems to be playing "the whole 10 yards" on their website which is a sequal to "the whole 9 yards" that isn't even rated yet.

    MPAA be advised: the devil consumers are about to have yet another tool to steal food directly from the mouths of set painters, grips, make-up artists and stuntmen of the world. Quick - sue the Internet for providing the infrastructure for pircay.

    (...sarcasm...)
  • ... though the 7700 is not expected to ship until Q2/04.

    And the reason they're announcing this so early is of course that Nokia is scared that the Zodiac [tapwave.com] will lure people away from them.

  • http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,47568,00.html Checkout the innovative radio listening experience. It's not just about playing games and scrolling through the phone book now...Listen to radio and participate in contests, shop etc. Cheers! Avkon
  • Hey I wanna know why Slashdot has singled out the mobile device market for it's Slashvertisements. What If I want to read a thinly vailed "news" article about every single disk drive, USB device or iMac looking translucent thingy. Is anyone fooled into thinking this is actual news? The link does not even point to a review or a FAQ on how to get linux on it. W T F?
  • Cool looking device and 3G - finally something that might help 3G take off in a big way...
  • Its' cool the way the N-Gage or the 7700 are held when used as a phone. It's a unique way of holding a mobile device which is a fashion entity these days and holding it uniquely is analogous to wearing a cap in different ways! Once you get used to it you won't miss not being able to hold it like a wedge between ur chin and the shoulder. Infact you'll enjoy being the unique one unless you don't dare to be different! Try the N-Gage/7700..and do the Taco Hold with some Attitude dudes! Cheers Avkon
  • According to this CNN article [cnn.com], the phone is expected to cost about 500 euros ($584.00).
  • While Nokia should be commended for innovation in developing the nGage and this PDA (because the functionality is almost exactly the same as similarly sized high end PDA's out there) I doubt that these will sell well. The idea of holding the thing on edge to phone with is simply not practical (Did they do usability testing?) and I really fail to see advantages in functionality in this device, compared to other PDA's in that ailing market. Nokia's only advantage is in it's brand recognition, which is huge in

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