When Word Processors Are Out: What's The Best Pen? 951
chensonny writes "Recently I was in a situation where there was no word processor, and several of us had to write, copy and sign a big amount of paper. It was then I re-realized the need for a good and comfortable pen. I saw some friends using a Mont Blanc, others like me using a felt pen or cheap ball-point pen. What does the geeks of Slashdot use for writing?" My favorite pen is an aluminum Lamy fountain pen -- can anyone recommend a good place to order Lamy ink in the U.S.?
Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:5, Interesting)
These seem to be more for the rich geek, unfortunatly I'm only a poor geek. So I just use a Pilot Gel Pen.
Re:Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:5, Informative)
This has caused problems for my credit union (scanned checks show up as blank when people view them via online banking), as well as my employer (scanned documents show up blank).
--RJ
FYI, what colors to use (Score:3, Informative)
link and viewpoint (Score:5, Interesting)
There was a related story (sorta) to this Why Johnny Can't Handwrite [slashdot.org] a few months earlier.
When I was in school, we had to do a buttload of writing. Then I came to college in mi. I think I did more writing in the 5th grade than I did in 3 years at college. If it wasn't on computer, I probably wouldn't touch it.
The only stuff was signing credit card bills at convenience stores and taking the odd note in class.
Now I've taken a break and am studying by myself(maths, phy, elec engineering). I finish a 160 page double side A4 size notebook in about 10 days. I've used up about quite a few of those notebooks(>30). Biggest problem here is not writing but motivation. But I digress.
My hands hurt too when I did that much writing but I am used to it now. You gotta take it slowly just like the gym regimen.
Writing is best done with a fountain pen, rolling ball or gel pens. If you are going to write a lot, ballpoint pens are the worst.
Ballpoints are made for convenience. The viscosity of the ink is what tires the palm and elbow faster than the the rest.
Whenever I buy a fountain pen, I buy extra nibs. If the nib is smooth, nice; otherwise I use fine sandpaper. Sometimes this works, sometimes not.
I use Hero pens( Hero [hisnibs.com]). Its pens and nibs are cheap. Availability is not a problem.
I've also used parker and schaeffer cartridge pens. Instead of buying new cartridges everytime, get a syringe and a nice ink bottle to refill the cartridges.
Rolling balls are nice but nearly everybody just uses and disposes them. It is actually possible to take the nib contraption out and refill its ink. Pilot makes rolling ball ink but its not sold in the states. Each of its 15 ml bottle is good for 8-10 refills.
Uniball's are decent too but not really suited for cursive writing.
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Re:Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh, my fave pen? BIC "Stic", blue, medium point. Low drag without being "slippery", reliable performance, inexpensive (as little as 10 cents each), and easy on the hand. (Especially the
Re:Think Geek to the Rescue!-Prove it. (Score:3, Informative)
Nobody on the first page mentions the Zebra F-402 [zebrapen.com].
I've been using these for years, and while I've never needed an external source to verify my assessment of quality, these pens bear the mark of a champion: Everyone is constantly stealing them from me.
If I fail to clip it inside my shirt collar, I can measure the time betw
Re:Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:5, Funny)
Or not. (Score:2)
...which is so large, heavy, and odd-shaped as to be virtually useless to write with. Sidewalk chalk would probably be easier. Semi-ok idea, horrible execution...a scanner gets the job done much better.
While obviously not appropriate for legal/financial docs, I prefer mechanical pencils, in part because, as a left-hander, ink often doesn't dry fast enough(one wonders if this is one reason some asian languages are up-down, not left-right; it's left/right hand neutral!) I use
Re:Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:5, Interesting)
Depends on the gel pen. I now exclusively use the Pilot GTec C4 for my main writing. They're not cheap. CDN$2.99 per unit and I don't know of any USA source for them. You can only buy them in packs of ONE unless you are a supplier. (Thanks to my cousin I got a box of them for cheap.) You can get them at Staples in Canada and at numerous places in the UK and across Europe.
The advantages of these pens are:
- They actually do write a very very fine line. The rating is 0.2 mm and they actually do live up to it. I've seen a lot of pens that claim 0.5 mm and such but they write a very thick line. These C4's actually live up to the claim.
- No blotching at all. I am student and I have to write very quickly in lectuers. With my Sanford Uni-Ball Vision (micro-tip) pens (which are the best IMO in terms of reliability and overall feel) when I move my hand to the start of the next line, the ink was still slightly wet and it smudged. But with the C4, it dries VERY quickly. The only time I've had them smudge is when I deliberately tried to smudge them or got water on the paper.
The only problems are that the design of the lid is a little weak and if you like to play with the clip it can break off. ALso, when the pen is new the ink cuts off occasionally in the first couple of days. But after that it's very smooth, almost as smooth as the aforementioned Uniball Vision Micro.
Gel ink can be your best friend, as long as you find the right implementation.
Re:Think Geek to the Rescue! (Score:3, Funny)
Huh? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Huh? (Score:3, Funny)
Your attitude towards writing and education and the modern nonchalant political correct mantra that "pens are unnecessary because we do have computers" strikes me as elitistic.
There are *millions* of people that would have given their left arm just for the ability to write with a pen so they can get a decent job. Please think about those children that never will earn the privilege it is to be able to take an education.
So before you throw away that che
Re:Huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Huh? (Score:3, Insightful)
Some of us did have to write with pens. Some of us are fortunate enough not to have to write much any more. I'm one of those. My writing is terrible, handwriting and spelling were horrible subject for me. No matter how I struggled, I never did well. Not having to use a pen frees me to excel in what I *do* do well.
A smirking jerk lording it over me and my limited hand-writing skills doesn't show any class or wisdom.
Pen d
Re:Huh? (Score:4, Funny)
Uniball (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Uniball (Score:2, Informative)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Uniball (Score:5, Informative)
Since I don't really have a lot of occasions where I actually handwrite on paper any more, I hardly get to use my Uniball except for writing checks.
One problem with Uniball Micros -- theft (Score:3, Informative)
My favorite pen is one I can liberate from (Score:2)
Re:My favorite pen is one I can liberate from (Score:3, Funny)
Pilot Precise V5 (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know if they make one with a big comfy grip, though, if that's what you're looking for. I'm not sure if I like those big, comfy grips, though... they sort of make me feel like I'm in nursery school again, grasping one of those crayons that seemed to huge at the time. Wait, that's probably a good thing. I'll shut up, now.
Re:Pilot Precise V5 (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.pilotpen.us/detail.asp?PenID=42
Re:Pilot Precise V5 (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Pilot Precise V5 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Pilot Precise V5 (Score:2)
Pilot VBall Extra fine (Score:5, Interesting)
I will die with one of these pens in my hands.
Pencil = Good (Score:5, Funny)
-- Use it to label disks, and play the fun game of getting conductive pencil shavings in your disk drive
-- Graphite + Wall Socket = Fun
-- Get to shake it when your one stick of lead finishes so the next one will catch, until you open it up to insert the lead in backwards (through the tip) because its not catching, and then when you open it the lead falls out and snaps
-- Injecting graphite into people
Re:Pencil = Good (Score:5, Insightful)
A pencil even works in a weightless environment, so we are even prepared for the future...
Re:Pencil = Good (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Pencil = Good (Score:5, Informative)
Pentel used to make a better retractable mechanical pencil, with a nice crosshatched aluminum barrel grip, but sadly they discontinued them.
The Pilot is the next best one. If I can't dig up either of those, then the next best is the Pentel P205 [currys.com]. Yeah, I'm a geek, but I love my mechanical pencils. Loaded with nice soft 2B lead. Great for smudging stuff.
Re:Pencil = Good (Score:4, Funny)
In 4th grade, me and this other kid were poking at each other with pencils. I had a big, long thing of lead sticking out the front of mine and accidentally stuck him in the palm. It broke off and left about a 1/2 inch of lead under the skin.
It looked really gross. He was pretty upset by the situation, but said it didn't hurt.
Thought I'd share.
my only pencil is an Alvin. (Score:4, Interesting)
If ever you stuck the thing into a wall socket, I'd make you hold on to it.
If you get funny ideas about sticking me with some wimpy little pentel, just forget it.
Tell me some storries about graphite in disk drives. If you mess with MY drives, I'll crack you over the head with my Model M keyboard.
If your looking for a really nice ballpoint... (Score:2)
Lamy converter (Score:2)
I'm thankful that I almost never have to do handwriting anymore! I only started using fountain pens for everything because I would get horrible hand cramps writing with anything that required any pressure. It always through off my physics professors when I
Bic - Blue (Score:2, Insightful)
Cheap Ball point (Score:2)
There chead so when you loose them you don't feel bad.
If you want a little upscale the clear pentel rsvp is also good.
I also have a LAMY roller ball yellow. Its for special occations!
I-Mark pens are nice... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I-Mark pens are nice... (Score:5, Funny)
My fave is the $3.50 Sheaffer fountain pen (Score:5, Informative)
I'm a writer, so I have a bit of a pen fetish. I have used all sorts of pens, including some ver' expensive Waterman fountain pens, and nothing writes for me like the Sheaffer. It has a very smooth, very precise action and nice ink flow.
For other purposes I use fine-point Sharpies.
Cheap but effective (Score:2)
Pen/pencil/PDA-stylus combo (Score:2, Informative)
My recomendation (Score:2)
My favorite pen is the Zebra Zeb-Roller 2000 with rubberized grip. It is very comfortable to grip and writes well. I prefer the Fine point becaus the medium tends to bleed on paper sometimes.
Here is a link:
http://www.cleansweepsupply.com/pages/skugroup998
This place? (Score:2)
This place [theworldofpens.com] claims to be The World's Largest Pen Store [ameinfo.com].
Or you can always try good old fashioned Quill Pens [geocities.com].
Waterman (Score:2)
Nice pens.. even the inexpensive ones. Free service, been in business for ages..
Big Fat Mont Blanc (Score:3, Interesting)
I have a big, fat, Mont Blanc fountain pen. Best pen ever.
Dont bother with a skinny one, and be careful as some of them seem to leak, but if you pick one that's good then you'll love it. No idea how much they would cost now, mine was about 300 10 years ago.
Edward
flying? (Score:2)
-Sean
Re:Big Fat Mont Blanc (Score:5, Insightful)
1) closest
2) someone hasnt walked off with
3) I havent left somewhere
4) not under the HUGE stack of paper next to my computer in my 'paperless office'.
5) not dryed out
Re:Big Fat Mont Blanc (Score:4, Funny)
EasyTouch and RSVP (Score:2)
The Pentel R.S.V.P. Med
and
The Pilot EasyTouch Med
They both cost about $1 each depending on how many you buy at once. The are both good pens, but I prefer the Pilot. I've had the plastic crack on the Pentel a couple of times and that makes it awkward to write with. However, i've had no such trouble with the Pilot. They both write smothly and are comfortable to hold.
Physicsnerd
Pen Geek Check (Score:3, Funny)
* You are in the bank depositing a bunch of checks from Indonesian gardeners, and you find yourself inexplicably without a pen. There is a little ballpoint pen on a steel chain at a table inside the bank. You would:
1. Leave and return the next day;
2. Run to the nearest Wal-Mart and buy a Montblanc;
3. Use the ball pen, but sign someone else's name on the checks;
4. Not know what the ballpoint pen is.
* Have you ever been in an argument over the actual derivation of the trade name "Duofold"?
* When watching old movies on video, do you find yourself freeze-framing to try to get a closer look at the pen Humphrey Bogart is using? Do you in fact know what pen Humphrey Bogart was using? Would you be willing to tell me?
* Do you own any of the following items:
1. A pocket protector (and you're not an engineer)?
2. A glass eyedropper?
3. More than one bottle of household ammonia?
4. Blotter paper
* Do you keep a bottle of ink in your carry-on luggage? More than one bottle in different colors?
* Do you find yourself sniffing at the end of pens (to tell whether or not they are made of hard rubber)?
* Are your pens cleaner than your kitchen?
* Can you identify the pens shown on the boxes of various word processing software packages? Do you feel resentful when you don't find any of those pens inside the boxes?
Pen Geek Check [rickconner.net]
Pilot G-2 07 (Score:3)
Pencil -- Not pen... (Score:3, Interesting)
I would much rather have a pencil not only because it's eraseable (mentioned already), but because you don't need to worry about getting it on your clothes or it exploding. I would have to vote for the Cross Classic Century Pencil [cross.com]...
It's very comfortable, and lasts a long time. The only disadvantage is that it does NOT work as a small pry-bar...which is why I need to buy a new one ;)
Re:Pencil -- Not pen... (Score:4, Insightful)
This is yet another urban myth, as explained by Snopes [snopes.com].
A great EMS pen (Score:2)
Not too skinny, and not too fat. Looks classy with the Hospital logo on it.
Any of the gel-ink pens do nicely (Score:2)
Bic Medium Point "Round Stick" (Score:2)
The ball point is consistant. It glides across the paper. The best part is it's popu
Cheap pens all the way (Score:2)
the "NASA" pen (Score:2)
Needless to say, I love this pen.
Re:the "NASA" pen (Score:4, Informative)
You can still handwrite? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sad, really.
Re:You can still handwrite? (Score:5, Interesting)
It's not just the physical act of writing that I can't do any more. Over a decade of using a word processor has led to me thinking in an "inside out" fashion about writing - I write say the main sentence of a paragraph, then add more before and after to fill in the rest of the point I'm trying to make. Or I write a document in a different order, perhaps writing the discussion first, then the background beforehand, then the conclusion then the introduction. Having a medium where you can't jump back and forth at will within the text, adding and moving at will, makes it almost impossible for me to compose a document by hand, unless I start off with one paragraph per page, written in the middle and take it from there, which means several drafts written out by hand before I get the final version.
When I need to hand write, for example a personal letter, I'll often write it out in a word processor, then hand copy it!
Yellow one that writes in the snow (Score:2, Funny)
Lefties? (Score:2)
And pencils! Why is it so difficult to find a nicely weighted metal pencil? You go in a store and all they have are big fat plastic things with massive rubber grips. Give me something skinny but heavy (right now I'm using Zebra pens/pencils - they're the best
Re:Lefties? (Score:3, Informative)
Try a Parker. I've worn out one pair (a pen and a pencil) and now am going through my third set. The first one got lost at some time. No fuss, the pair is just plain smooth steel.
Parker's website [parkerpen.co.uk] doesn't show the very basic model I use. The closest match in both style and size would be their 'Inflection' set. Around here, you can find these basic items in any decent bookstore that sells study and office supplies.
And to your being a leftie, the ones I'm referring to are completely round and symmetrical.
I generally go with (Score:2)
Pilot (Score:2)
ph33r.
If I had a lot of money I would probably have some fine point personalized parker pens. They are teh awesome.
Lamy, of course (Score:2)
Being in Heidelberg it was always easy to find parts and ink. I'm reading other comments to find them now that I'm in the U.S. again.
A good pen, but I can't find it (Score:2)
They were plastic ended with stainless caps and came in a bunch of colors. I can't seem to find them anywhere in the US or the web. I think they may be Penguin, but I'm really not sure.
Anyway it was a nice pen and tough as nails. I finally killed it when I smashed it with a rocking chair.
Anyone have any info on these things?
I also had another fancy pen (Caran d'Ache), but it wore out pre
my own (Score:2)
One of my hobbies is woodworking, including using a lathe. So I turn my own pens. It's kind of anti-tech, but you know what they say, if you want something done right....
favorite pens (Score:2)
The Pilot Razor Point [pilotpen.us] is cheap enough to be bought in quantity, and has a hard plastic nib a little like a fountain pen. It has a nice scratchy feel to it.
The Cross Ion [cross.com] is considerably more expensive. It'll run you about $20 for a pen if you buy it at Staples or an equivalent store. It's also not that fun to write with, honestly - too small, hard plastic with edges in the wrong places.
The one your SO gave you of course (Score:2)
Almost any pen will write acceptably well, so the pen I carry was chosen for different reasons. It was the one my Girlfriend gave me for christmas.
For the record it is a Waterman fountain pen, that I have filled with black ink. I think it cost her about $20.
Depends on how old you are. (Score:2)
What I can't find are pens with titanium barrels which would be an ideal material to make pens out of. Strong and lightweight. There are
Ballograf (Score:2)
As somebody working in a field where ballpoint pens and chalk are still the most important instruments (ie mathematics), I swear by Ballograf Epoca pens and am lost without them.
Plus, they aren't extremely expensive, which is helpful if you are like me and pens have an expected lifetime of maybe a month before they are misplaced.
Medium-cost Parker (Score:3, Informative)
Space Pen (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Space Pen (Score:3, Interesting)
But that Millennium pen... damn you, I just may have to
Has anybody tried these? (Score:3, Interesting)
notes from an artist (Score:4, Informative)
Anyway, I prefer fountain pens, mostly because nobody will ever borrow them so I never lose my pens to theft. IMHO the most bang for the buck is the Lamy Safari, it's cheap and writes well. I prefer the Lamy "joy" pen, it has a wider nib that satisfies my calligraphic urges. But you have to know how to write italic to use the joy pen properly.
But my favorite pen of all time is a cheapo crap Cross ballpoint. Mine has the IBM logo on it, I got it as an award for selling my first $1million of IBM equipment. I use it solely for financial transactions, it's sort of a weird superstition of mine.
Pencils are another story. Everyone should have a really good mechanical pencil. The best kinds have retractable points so you don't poke holes in your shirt pockets. The Japanese have this one completely nailed. The Sanford Logo II 0.5mm is my favorite, although it doesn't retract the tip. For a good retractable-tip pencil, the Yasutomo Grip500 can't be beat. Rotring makes awesome mechanical pencils, although I don't personally like the harsh German design, I find them uncomfortable and hard to hold.
Re:notes from an artist (Score:4, Funny)
Pelikan is tops (Score:5, Informative)
In situations demanding a more durable pen, the Rotring 600 series have never failed me. They're made of solid brass, and are almost invincible. The list of potentially deadly situations my 600s have survived is long.
As a collector, user, and frequent gift-giver of high quality writing instruments, I have found Joon, a company based in New York, to be without match in all of my pen purchase needs. Check them out on the web at www.joon.com. For Timothy, they carry the entire line of Lamy inks and refills.
And just an aside- I've noticed some folks above me in this topic talking about Levenger. DON'T buy pens or ink from Levenger. They put a markup on their pens so high it's absurd, and their ink is shite. If I wanted to write with colored water, I'd buy food coloring.
Fountain Pens for Pleasure, Ballpoints for Utility (Score:5, Informative)
Like many, I went through a phase of using a Palm Pilot (or similar device) for recording thoughts when away from any computer keyboard. I've since gone back to just using these devices for addresses and appointments (which mean that the sub $100 ones do just fine). So I'm back to carrying a pen whenever I go out and generally a small notebook (the paper variety) too.
Sometimes I carry a fountain pen, but more often I'm in a hurry and grab a ballpoint. For cheap ones I like Parker clickable ballpoints. The ink capacities are huge and they write smoothly. For $20 or so though I'd recommend the Rotring ballpoints which are all steel, have a textured grip, large ink supply and are nice and techno looking. You can enhance either Parker or Rotring pens by replacing the ink cartridge in it with one from Fisher (the makers of the original "Space Pen"). These really will write upside down, under water and on practically any surface. When writing on ordinary paper they have a nice feel too.
I remember in the 60's Bic did a series of commercials on how durable their pens were. They shot them from guns into tree trunks and then took what was left (not much) and wrote with it. They also "simulated" strapping one to a car to see how many miles you could write with one. Very impressive. Unfortunately I think cheap pens are not what they used to be. I've found that many of these if left unused for a year or so refuse to ever write again no matter how much you tap, shake or scribble with it trying to get it started again. Unfortunately many of these more expensive specialty pens (like the ones with the special grips) have the same ink mechanism used for the cheap ones. So, go with ink mechanisms from Parker, Fisher, Rotring, Lamy, Mont Blanc, or Cross, unless you are in a situation, such as a waiter, where your pens are constantly stolen.
Finally, and most importantly, if you are going to write anything that you need to last for a long time, do the following experiment:
Take all your candidate pens and make a test mark (sign your name or whatever) on several types of paper that you typically use. If you use colored ink, do this in all the colors you plan to use too. Just as a control, make the same marks with an ordinary pencil, and also pick any ordinary black-ink ballpoint (not the gel pens though, plain old ballpoint).
Tape these papers to a window or somewhere else where they will get direct sun. The back window of your car will do too. Check them in a month. You might be surprised, and if you are writing for any sort of archival purpose you might change your mind about what you want to use.
Mont Blancs, Parkers,.... (Score:3, Informative)
Brand new Mont Blanc "Fineliner" (Score:3, Informative)
As for cheapo disposable pens, my favorite has always been the Pilot "Precise" V5 (extra fine) or V7 (fine). They always write wonderfully. But the Mont Blanc Fineliner is the greatest thing ever (and no, I do not work for them or any pen company).
Mont Blanc vs. other premium pens (Score:5, Interesting)
For the money, Mont Blanc pens tend to be ridiculously fragile, and repair costs range from $35 to $400+ (USD). Sometimes leakage is a result of improper pen storage and/or maintenance, but with Mont Blancs the problem seems to be suspiciously epidemic.
Don't take my word for it, but don't blindly trust the name either. If you have access to a fine pen shop, spend some time learning about the subject, then do the comparitive research. Imho, if you really want a pen that will last a lifetime, Mont Blanc is not the one.
NOT a ballpoint (Score:3, Informative)
When doing a lot of writing, I prefer my Parker fountain pen; however, I also write well with a fibre-tip (preferably a fairly thick one like the Paper Mate nylon). Mechanical pencils are also good for some things (B or 2B lead).
These days, I use my Psion to make notes more often than paper, though.
Pilot Precise V5 (Score:3, Informative)
I thought I was the only one that was so picky about pens, but a few weeks ago I found a coworker that did just that. When she was in high school she found a specific pen that she liked and that is what she has purchased ever since. Since she is now the ops manager that happens to be the main brand of pen she buys for the office.
Namiki Vanishing Point!!! (Score:4, Informative)
Perhaps the best all-around fountain pen is the Namiki [namiki.com] Vanishing Point. For a street price of around $100, you get a nice pen. It has a gold nib, takes both a cartridge or a convertor (for bottled ink), and is a good size (not too large, not to small). It has a very sharp look. I personally perfer the pre-2000 models, but I hear the current ones are pretty good.
Oh! I forgot to tell you the best part. In its own right, the VP is a great pen--perhaps the best to be had for that price point. It earned this on the basis I described above. The really cool thing is, it is retractable--the only retractable foutain pen in current production! So, no cap to have to manipulate. Since I get a lot of golf shirts, it is particularly nice.
A runner up for a fount is a vintage Parker 51. The areometric ones (produced from 1948-1970ish) are generally regarded as the best fountain pen ever. They can typically be had for under $100.
Mont Blanc used to make very good pens. However, as they became hyped as "the best" (a dubious claim to begin with), the quality went down, support became worse, and only the rep had remained. They are said among collectors to have a very brittle plastic (I know from first hand reports), and the service is iffy.
If you need a ballpoint, might I suggest the rotring 600 tri? Two ball points and a
Bic Stic Medium (Score:3, Funny)
I've had (and lost) $50.00 pens. The Bic seems to work just as well. And, when they don't, you can snap them in half and throw them away. Great stress relief.
Timmy, if only... (Score:4, Funny)
Gee, if only there was some kind of searchable, massive collection of computers that were all hooked together somehow, and contained this kind of information. If businesses were a part of it, it would be even better.
Re:Go to an art supply store (Score:3, Funny)
Ooh! now I can take pictures of four-dimensional objects and they will be projected properly!
Re:Go to an art supply store (Score:2)
Re:zebrapens (Score:2, Informative)
Re:The ink is what matters (Score:2)
Re:not a fountain pen! (Score:3, Interesting)
Using a fountain pen rather than a roller-ball is like using C++ or Java rather than VB. Sure if you're used to VB you'll create crap using C++/Java, but if you know how to use the tool the results and significantly superior.
Or it's the same as the difference between a Mac user and a PC user. The former values quality is prepared to pay for it, the latter doesn't and isn't. ;-)
Edward
Re:not a fountain pen! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Montblanc is the best bar none (Score:2)
I have found the ink to not be as fluid as they should be considering their cost.
Re:Fischer Space pen (Score:2)