The Ultimate PC Case - Continued 193
chrisd writes " While surfing, I found a link to the PCMODS site which sells all kinds of cool stuff to trick out your PC. I'm talking big plexiglass windows. Neon! Aluminum cases! Lights! I see a link to thinkgeek but I guess TG doesn't carry thier stuff yet. Way cool though. But, a company called Plycon has their stuff and other cool stuff. So go accessorize that case cowboy!" Ant also sent in a story on the creation of a portable desktop - inside of an aluminum briefcase. Supercool as well.
P1mp3d cases are loud! (Score:1)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
With my current primary PC, I settled for a compromise between looks and functionality and got an Antec SOHO server case. It has two 80mm fan mounts at the anterior, two 80mm fan mounts at the posterior, a detachable, locking side panel, and a neat sliding "drive rail" system for the 5.25" bays. It's also very roomy. At $80 before shipping, it wasn't cheap, but it was definitely worth it.
While I know it's irrational, I just love cool looking case. My next PC will likely live in a Yeong Yang YY-8201 [yeongyang.com] (miniNLX form factor) if I can find a decent mainboard for it.
All generalizations are false.
Re:Style over substance? (Score:3)
Quiet PC's? (Score:1)
- Power supply fan. Probably the biggest culprit. I understand that there are several manufacturers of quiet PSU's, and that 30dB is the target for a quiet PC. Is there such a thing as a PSU whose fan only turns on when necessary (at least turn off in sleep/suspend mode)?
- Other fans. Faster CPU's and video cards require better airflow, which require more/bigger fans, which increase noise. How do you get better airflow with less noise?
- Hard drives. Faster RPM hard drives create tons of noise, especially when it causes case vibration. I've heard of hard drive enclosures (Silent Drive?), but I don't think they work with 7200+RPM drives (too much heat)
- Case design. Does a bigger, heavier (metal vs. plastic?) case reduce noise? What about vibration?
Can anyone offer any tips here?
Front stuff (Score:3)
Eventullay a numeric keypad sticking on it to do like a house entrance / car alarm (very 'jacky').
Some of this mods are functionnal btw.
These are retarded. Get a rack instead. (Score:1)
There are several inexpensive 4 space rackmount computer cases out there that look incredibly cool (and have shockmount drive bays) add a nice QUIET 300w power supply, an skb roto-rack and an extra fan in the back and you're 10x more professional protected and portable.
Re:Emissions? (Score:1)
Colorcase is great! (Score:1)
Re:Emissions? (Score:1)
Now if only Scotty would time warp back here and give us that damned recipe for Transparent Aluminum
8-)
Re:Could permit warrantless searches... (Score:1)
Virg
Re:Style over substance? (Score:4)
The argument "Style over substance" is valid when marketing and design is used to make a sub-standard product look better simply by improving it's physical appearance. I cringe when relatives buy a poor performing PC, simply because it looked sexier than the alternatives.
But you don't have to sacrifice style for performance. The performance of a PC is not inversely proportional to how good it looks. Some of you have probably seen some pretty sexy looking heavy metal, and some of the highest performing notebooks also look pretty sharp.
We've all been duped by experience to trust that ugly=value. That's from the days when the big domestic guys were making pretty and expensive boxes, while the overseas guys were making ugly and cheap boxes. If you had tech skill, you passed on the pretty hand-holding models and went straight for the foreign boxes, with questionable configurations and lots of driver disks.
We no longer live in those times. You can buy an excellent PC over the Internet, that's fully functional. If you want to build one yourself, you can do that, but often the savings isn't worth the time (the people that know how to do it are worth quite a bit per hour).
So, why are PC's still ugly? Because we still buy them ugly, 'cause we think ugly=value=power. That's a larger factor than other considerations, especially since a little design may even help with cooling problems.
I much prefer my 1930's house with ivy and a little yard to a warehouse with a raised floor for easy cable access. I prefer my hardwood floors to 1/16 inch, easy to vacuum carpet. If prefer my home office, with a view of my yard and my dogs, to my cubicle at work (even though the cubicle is nice as cubicles go). I prefer my slashdot posts with nice formatting, well-thought out ideas, and most of the grammar and spelling checked to three-second post and links to naughty cx domains.
Why don't these ascetic tastes spill over into the PC domain? Mostly because the people that make them have bought into the style vs. substance war, and you can either buy an ugly but powerful system, or a pretty but brain-dead system. Well, you can have it both ways. To think otherwise is to still live in a world where people can be either intelligent but unattractive, or beautiful but dumb. Well, I have a little more hope for the world.
I'm slowly becoming a style convert, and my wife has helped a lot. It's not that expensive anymore, and it's becoming cheaper every day. You can still be a geek, too. Just run the wire through the walls rather than over the floors, and get some help when shopping for clothes.
Check out an organization that's trying to bring some design into our lives. They had a contest to design a better power meter [manufacturingcenter.com], with some interesting results. (If anyone can find the slashdot article that first linked it, please tell me).
All I have to say is... (Score:1)
Also, check out this galary [virtualhideout.net] of case mods to look at, I've got some very cool ideas from this site. Check out the last one on the main page.
"Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know."
Lets Trick Out Our Honda Civic! (Score:1)
But yeah, what's next? Vanity plates w/ chase lights around them, blacklight ground effects, and silkscreened gothic-font 'h4x0r' across the side?
Re:Oh god, the rice-boy mentality on your PC! (Score:2)
You don't know shit about life. Go to www.thejackytouch.com [thejackytouch.com] to see real bad taste (beware, even if you can stand goatsecx you may need a barf bag before clicking)
For the non-french readers, click the 4th link on the left ("Jacky Du Mois"), then browse the entries by month. Can't give a deep pointer, the thing uses frames.
Cheers,
--fred
Re:Style over substance? (Score:1)
Re:Yep, it's on ThinkGeek... (Score:1)
Proof or not, I was responding to the comment "it doesn't appear to be on ThinkGeek" with a statement of fact.
I couldn't care less about /.'s, or anyone's advertising motives... thanks to Junkbuster [waldherr.org].
Re:Link to a Smart owner home page (Score:2)
Re:uhm... how is this offtopic (Score:2)
Even better than that, it was modded to troll first! Howzat then? Me, the 13th Duke of Glasgow, in an internet chatroom, with my Karma?
Re:Anti-Mac hypocrites (Score:1)
BTW, case mods and colored PC's have existed *long* before the imac came out.
Re:power mac cases (Score:1)
All generalizations are false.
Re:Slashdot Effect (Score:1)
The editors wouldn't have to do any more work than they would now, the submission script could easily look through the post for links, and have them downloaded to a slashdot server, and change the link to point to it.
Once the post is off the front page, the cached pages could be deleted, and the links changed back to the actual links.
Re:Emissions? (Score:1)
Faraday cages only protect what's inside them from outside radiation. They don't stop radiation from inside them going out... :)
Great! A cool case with an additional heat source (Score:1)
This is exactly what I worry about at night: Does my computer look "cool" enough? Nevermind that it lacks RAM and urgently needs a current generation CPU, the coolness of looking at it is far more important. Or at least that's what the good ppl at pcmods.com seem to think. Personally I couldn't care less how my machines look. A computer case should be stable and absorb noise (if possible). Any form of electrical illumination inside the case is just an unnecessary heat source. These cases might be well suited for desktops of executives but not for the typical geek user.
But then: Maybe I underestimate the importance of being cool. This might be a good subject for a Slashdot Poll: What do you look for in a new computer case? ... I would have to go for CowboyNeal.
Re:power mac cases (Score:1)
uk case modders (Score:1)
Re:Kick ass cases (Score:1)
I think you are talking about the SuperMicro SC750-A [supermicro.com] case. That's what I have, and it's not very fancy but very very nice. It's got four drive bay cooler fans, two fan mounts in front, one fan mount directly over the CPU, one fan mount above the power supply, the traditional screw-in for a fan behind the CPU, and a crapload of drive bays.
The only thing is, most of the fans you have to buy seperately.
Re:Emissions? (Score:1)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:1)
Re:power mac cases (Score:1)
Huh?.. How is SCSI or EIDE proprietary? I've had half a dozen PMacs over the last few years and not one of them required a proprietary HDD.. Now, Apple may not supply drivers with their hard disk tools for every drive out there, but all you need to do is grab a copy of FWB Toolkit (the personal edition ships for free with drives from a number of vendors) and you're golden..
So if we're not talking about the HDD, you must be talking about the 72 pin SIMMS, or the 168 pin DIMMS, and more recently PC100 or 133 SDRAM.. Nope, wait those aren't ay different than the RAM shipped for PCs.. Maybe it's the processor.. Who cares, the standard MacOS supports that, and so do netBSD, AUX, mkLinux, LinuxPPC, etc..
Re:PCMods.com=lame......and some other stuff (Score:2)
I love people that think it's always THE SAME PEOPLE saying DIFFERENT THINGS on slashdot.
You do realize there are more than 12 people reading slashdot, right?
The coolest case ever... (Score:1)
Re:New DELL PC boxes redefine the term 'UGLY'!!!! (Score:1)
Maybe I should proof my posts next time!
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Why computers have cases (Score:1)
Isn't one of the primary reasons to put your computer in a case because it contains the electromagnetic radiation generated by the computer? Wouldn't putting a window in your case partially defeat this purpose?
Granted, I've never witnessed any adverse effects from this and I've run computers without cases for years but at the same time I know that it probably makes a difference in some situations.
Re:PCMods.com=lame......and some other stuff (Score:1)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:1)
A more bettterer case with more betterness. (Score:2)
http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/Chassis/sc750
They cost about 150 off pricewatch.
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Re:Other cool cases. (Score:1)
blessings,
You don't need any money (Score:1)
Professor Frink (Score:1)
"Oh, no, the hard drive is crashing at an ALARMING speed!"
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Re:Kick ass cases (Score:1)
http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/Chassis/sc760
Lian-Li (Score:1)
Re:Emissions? (Score:1)
That said, it seem that they keep stuff either inside or outside.
Style over substance? (Score:4)
Maybe I'm just old-fashioned about my computers, but am I the only one who thinks that it's not what's on the outside that counts, but what's on the inside? Who honestly cares what your machine looks like as long as it can compile the latest Linux kernel in less than a quarter of an hour?
I mean, you could spend the cash some of these cases cost on far more important things like more memory, a new hard drive or even a graphics card if you're not into so much serious stuff. But trying to turn your PC into some shrine to aesthetics is just silly.
So much for geeks being some of the last people to appreciate substance over style. What's next, "How Flash can liven up your website!"?
Re:transparent case (Score:1)
Yeah, I was hoping someone had some insight into how Apple did it. Maybe they just have metal shielding around the boards, but I didn't think so.
Re:Anti-Mac hypocrites (Score:1)
In the imac world, there's only a few colors available (bondi blue is the most common), so nobody really ends up with a unique case.
Re:You don't need any money (Score:1)
Also, if you're into flashing lights, there's a similar thing for screensavers, which you can download here [voxelsoft.com].
Re:Sound Dampening Material? (Score:1)
JackyPC (Score:2)
OK, we have cool PC's... (Score:1)
Yayyyy... (Score:1)
Re:Emissions? (Score:2)
Really? Why? I don't understand why there should be a difference. Care to enlighten me?
Re:Emissions? (Score:2)
Electrical charge gathers on the outside of a conductor. I can't remember the exact details (physics 1 is a very blurry memory!) but this means that you cannot induce a current on a conductor inside a hollow conductor (essentially what a faraday cage is) by means of a moving charge outside the conductor.
A moving charge inside a hollow conductor can cause a moving charge on the surface of the conductor, however, which again can induce currents on conductors outside the hollow conductor.
Easy peasy (i think
Plexiglass? (Score:2)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
Case design is still a valid part of making the computer sell and look good in a home. Remember when companies only sold varying shades of gray? Lots of imagination there.
IBM tried to sell an all-black PC but that didn't catch on.
I am concerned about the excess amount of fossil fuel usage age considering that many Apple cases are layer of plastic over a layer of metal. Nice one. I like the graphite G4 towers, so it's not totally wasted, but it is using a lot more material than needed just to satisfy silly aesthetic preferences.
Fully Translucent Cases (Score:3)
Since last I saw them mentioned on Slashdot, ColorCases [colorcases.com] has added some fully translucent all-plastic cases [colorcases.com].
They also have some other new designs, for example the $99 shiny "USB Stainless Blue."
But please, somebody tell them that their new site design blows.
Re: (Score:2)
Cool! (Score:2)
Stupid thing... I hit Enter to tab to this field by mistake. Sorry about the double post...
Anyways...
Now we can have computers that have
(Thank you William Shatner!)
Bicycles for fish! (Score:3)
information wants to be expensive...nothing is so valuable as the right information at the right time.
Re:Style over substance? (Score:4)
Do you happen to own a lava lamp? What do you use it for?
Generating random numbers for cryptographic purposes to fuel my paranoid fantasies. What else would you use one for?
Whats next? (Score:2)
Re:Oh god, the rice-boy mentality on your PC! (Score:2)
--anyway--
Actually, this is what makes it most amusing... nothing is funnier than when these things try to race me. Nothing sucks worse for these folks than being beaten by a 5000 lb. full-size 4x4 pickup
The amusing point about the "rice boy" phenomenon is that they spend $20,000 in mods on a $20,000 car and it doesn't do anything, because they chose the wrong car to modify and poorly invested their money. Any $40,000 sports car or $25-30k sports car with $10-15k in mods done by anyone with an IQ above 100 will put their car to shame.
By the way, just so everyone knows, the term "rice boy" isn't intended to be racist. There's plenty of white guys with V6 Camaros with Z28 emblems and gold spoked 13" wheels that are rice-boy cars.
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Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
Other cool cases. (Score:2)
http://www.colorcase.com/
They have some really nice looking cases. Next
time I build a system, I plan on purchasing one
of their cases, unless something else really
nice comes along.
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
On a side note, I strongly believe that if car makers made it easier to change the plastic body panels, people would love to own a few different sets so if they got tired of the current color, they could switch.
Case modding is soooo choice. (Score:3)
Niteshade [poorvin.com]
This is a clear case design with plenty of fans, plenty of lights, and a silver crystal sculpture. Today I'm upgrading this one to a Thunderbird 1.3G.
Ryoko [poorvin.com]
Modeled after my favorite Tenchi Muyo anime character, this Linux server is probably going dual-processor in a week. Most of the hard work on this was using a steel jigsaw to cut out the window in the side panel. Printing and laquering some 60+ photos was the fun part!
Hydraulic Lifter and Shock Absorber Kit (Score:3)
radiation? (Score:2)
Re:Less lights on PCs. Are lights really expensive (Score:2)
Anyone remember the old Wyse or (pre-Dell) PC's Limited computers that had an LCD panel on the front?
Re:PC Cases. (Score:2)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
This doesn't mean that you can't make a cool generic case, it just means that a no-name biege case guarantees an open upgrade path.
Re:Kick ass cases (Score:2)
At work, we've got an Austin 486/33 EISA from 1992, before they got bought out by some Taiwanese outfit (it was top-of-the-line when it came out). It's been running continuously since 1992 (except for hardware upgrades -- more disk).
But the killer is the case. The fscker has a solid steel case and is built like a tank. It'll probably still be running when the sun goes red giant and swallows the earth!
Re:transparent case (Score:2)
I wouldn't suggest buying one, though. The plastic shells tend to generate more static electricity than their metal counterparts and we all know that's bad for PC components. Also, the metal provides shielding from electromagnetic and radio interference.
ThinkGeek (Score:2)
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/things/3735.html
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/things/3738.html
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/things/373b.html
PCMods.com=lame......and some other stuff (Score:3)
Re:Whats next? (Score:2)
Personally, I'd want mine pissing on an Apple logo, but YMMV.
Although your one line message was probably a bite, you actually really identified exactly where some of these accessories are heading! Thinkgeek already sells a rearview mirror (it's actually a small concave mirror called the CHIMP, that allows you to know when someone is behind you while at your cubicle...) There are a lot of Audio-3D games out there, and having a surround sound for games is a great experience. Having a bass is nothing new for Unreal explosions, or playing Mp3's...even movies. (Divx/DVD) since sound cards have 5.1 outputs, and computer speakers to go with it. I suppose some people hook up their sound to their home-theater system, so they might indeed has 12" subs. And if 1/2 the trucks I see out there have a piss-on-ford, or piss-on-dodge sticker, the same mentality can be said for anyone wanting one for their computer? Maybe. I just wonder how mud-flaps could be used...
Rader
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
I would help if it wasn't fugly to start with.
I don't want it to light up, I want it GONE! (Score:3)
I just don't get the deal with making the thing more obvious, I guess. I'd like a system where the monitor and keyboard disappeared when I wasn't using them. I've looked at armoires and such but they're so huge. Maybe someday laptops will come with video cards that don't suck ass.
Oh god, the rice-boy mentality on your PC! (Score:5)
The people who buy this crap are probably the same people who cut the springs on their Honda, bolt on an angry-beehive exhaust, slap on some stickers, light up their dash with neon, put on big shiny chrome wheels that weight 30lbs a piece and then try to drag race me from every damn traffic light!
JUST SAY NO!
Before anyone buys any of this stuff, think about the terrible habit you're starting. Take up crack or heroin, or extacy. There are rehab centers to help you get off of that, but nothing can cure bad taste! Look at this site [riceboypage.com] and you can see how bad this addiction can really become! A five inch tailpipe can't make your car faster or look better, and a hole in your computer case won't either!
I think Jon Katz needs to write a series on it, Stories from the World of No Taste.
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
I'd rather get a "bland and boring" beige case that sports the following features:
1. At least a 300W power supply.
2. Lots of drive bay expansion capabilities.
3. MUST be ATX form factor.
4. Have at least one secondary internal cooling fan in addition to the cooling fan on the power supply. If the cooling fan is directed towards the CPU, the better.
Re:Style over substance? (Score:5)
Nowadays a 1GHz Athlon processor costs less than $250 - and that RAM that would help kickstart a machine's performance costs about $60 for 128MB worth. Disk storage is cheap, too. When a killer machine costs well under $1000, about the only thing left to differentiate yourself is the case mod. Sure, you and I both have a 1 GHz Athlon, but I have a cool neon-lit window on my case - how about you? (for the record - I haven't done any case mods other than adding fans, and they don't count)
People laughed at Steve Jobs when he started selling iMacs (who'd ever want a fruity-looking computer?), but the success of Apple's line of systems makes the point: when all things are relatively equal (as they were until the latest Wintel price plunges re-opened the gap), people will go for style. If a cool-looking iMac is selling for about the same money a good consumer PC sells for, a lot of people will choose the iMac because of looks.
Case Modding is really just a variation on this theme.
- -Josh Turiel
Emissions? (Score:5)
Relevant link (Score:2)
Yep, it's on ThinkGeek... (Score:2)
Now, if you put a lame PC in a cool case, that's a different story. That's like putting ground effects on your Yugo [stlnet.com].
uh-oh... (Score:2)
How about ridiculous spoilers on p133's (like the spoiler will help the pc run SETI@home units any faster! ha!
I better rush to register a www.beaterz.com [beaterz.com] like address www.beaterzpc.com hmmm.... now if I could only find my bookmark to www.networksolutions.com I could register it...
E.
www.randomdrivel.com [randomdrivel.com] -- All that is NOT fit to link to
Heavier sucks (Score:2)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:3)
Me, personally, I find the cases incredibly cool (almost as cool as lava lamps), but given that price tag.... hmmm... I don't think so
Re:If you thought these cases were cool... (Score:2)
Good grief some of this is ugly. I like black cases, but what's with the people who put beige periphs (e.g. CDROM, floppy) in a black case? The fashion police need to pay these folks a call.
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Re: (Score:2)
Less lights on PCs. Are lights really expensive. (Score:2)
The same thing has happened with modems, too.
What's with the skimping on lights? I like to see what's going on in my computer, (without wasting desktop space). I wish internal modems came with a 5.25" faceplate filled with the traditional lights an external modem has. Ditto for ethernet cards. LED VU meters for sound cards. Lights for EACH separate IDE and SCSI chain and for the FLOPPY.
Ah well.
At least there's the racks of network switches. (The previous sysadmin was a moron and had 25 racks of 16-port HUBS linked with a backplane, all in one massive star configuration. Yeeeeesh. The company balked when I requisitioned funds for racks of switches to replace the hubs, but were amazed at network speed increases afterwards.)
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
Anyway, your 4 points that you just made...WTF?
I made those my requirements a year and a half ago. Some people already have this kind of stuff. I see other posts here bitching that you should spend the money on more RAM or something. I have more RAM already. My computer has what I need---and if I don't, it's something really expensive that I can't justify getting yet. But playing around with your computer for a small amount of money...who cares! Sounds like a good idea. One thing I like about these ideas, are they're not going to become obsolete or something. It's something you can re-use, even after upgrading video cards, m/b, or CPU, etc.
If you're a 14 yr-old snot that only gets $1 allowance, then yes, this is a waste of money. But some of us have a little money to waste.
Rader
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
So much for geeks being some of the last people to appreciate substance over style. What's next, "How Flash can liven up your website!"?
Who says that that "geeks" don't appreciate style over substance [thinkgeek.com]? I assure you that you can find far less expensive and better made T-shirts, beer glasses, desk calendars, coffee mugs, and hats than the ones you find at the above site. Yet somehow, this site makes a killing marketing almost exclusively style-oriented items to people supposedly immune to such folly.
While substance is undeniably important, we are creatures of senses and feelings, and our world would be an exceedingly dull place to live without style. Thus, whether or not case windows and internal neon lights suit your personal taste (an entirely different question, on which I think we would probably share the same opinion,) to say that trying to inject some style into one's computer case is "just silly" strikes me as a little over-utilitarian. Why shouldn't a geek have a fast computer that looks nice, too?
information wants to be expensive...nothing is so valuable as the right information at the right time.
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
It depends... if, for example, your PC is located in a room full of designer stuff, a computer case which just fits perfectly to your furniture is really cool. Several years ago, there was a brand of PC which had a pyramid-shaped case made of black brushed aluminum. The monitor was one of the first TFT screens (IIRC, I'm not 100% sure), also in black brushed aluminum, and the whole setup not only looked damn cool, it also cost about three times as much as a standard machine with the same interior. Unfortunately, I've forgotten tha name of the manufacturer (who probably went out of business some time ago...)
I don't think I would spend several hundred dollars (or whatever these cases cost, order page is /.ed) on a computer case, though. It's much more fun to build a cool plexi glass case yourself (including some old sawed-open hard drives where you can see the heads move...:-)
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All is useless... (Score:3)
The only thing i say close to that was a series of HP Vectra pc which had a round HAL-like power button wich will glow red (HDD led).
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Re:Oh god, the rice-boy mentality on your PC! (Score:2)
Re:Oh god, the rice-boy mentality on your PC! (Score:3)
The day I spanked a C5 corvette from a light with two passengers, the guy looked like he wanted to cry!
The thing that amazes me with ricers though is that they can't admit to themselves that they're still driving a 130hp Honda...
PC Cases. (Score:3)
Would somebody PLEASE make a good looking PC case, and not just one that's just a goddamn beige box with some coloured plastic stuck on the outside, or a face painted on the front.
Let's get some cubes in there, maybe a wall hanging thing, a flat case that screws into the bottom of your desk, SOMETHING NEW.
That's all, except I'd be the first in line to buy one.
If you thought these cases were cool... (Score:5)
More neon lights and bizarre cases than you're ever likely to see
http://www.virtualhideout.net/cool_case/ [virtualhideout.net]
power mac cases (Score:3)
wray
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
Personally, style does matter, but not as much as the practicality of the case. That's why I'm building my next computer in a file server case. I've seen several that actually look pretty cool, but, at the same time, are very practical -- I can start off with a simple system, but build up a quad Xeon and massive RAID...
Re:Style over substance? (Score:2)
Overclocking and 1GHz and state of the art cooling is about technical superiority. Case design is about art.
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!