

Webclipping Slashdot for Palm VII 85
Patrick 'CaptTofu' Galbraith has completed a palm interface to
Slashdot that you can access from
this location if you're using the Palm VII's Web Clippings. Feel free to send him
thanks/bugs/suggestions/feraris if you're moved to. Update: 07/29 12:15 AM by CT : Avantgo users could try
this URL and consider deprecating the old use of light more.
Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? (Score:2)
Re:Am I doing something wrong? (Score:1)
Try IE (if possible) and right-click on the link and choose "Save As"; if the server reports the file as ASCII, Netscape will convert it to MS-DOS style ASCII (and mess it up) whereas IE will not.
Incidentally, all I saw was "slashdot.pqa" (Netscape 4.74)...
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Re:Internet devices -- common dataformat (Score:1)
Re:Where's the AvantGo Channel? (Score:1)
Re:What does this one add? (Score:1)
Re:Screenshots ? (Score:2)
Re:Screenshots ? (Score:1)
you can run it in the Palm OS Emulator.
It's really cool!
Avantgo (Score:2)
FTP Link is Bad (Score:1)
Re:WAP (Score:1)
I know... (Score:1)
F E R R A R I
pleeeeaaaasee....
thanks,
Roland
Thanks (Score:1)
Re:Avantgo (Score:2)
First of all, it should have the twenty recent posts on the front page. In bold, please.
Second, the description pages for each post should have the top 10 scored comments listed automatically, and, of course, trunicated to about 5K overall.
Think how a such a site would work. I don't want to use a 5-level pull for 250K of site when I only view about 40k of it. I mean, the organization needs alot of work. Maybe have a special Palm section for our accounts: One to activate, another to set how it's viewed. Then http://www.slashdot.org/palm would be a form that's filled out on the Palm/Avantigo.
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Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) (Score:1)
The browser does actually support tables, has since day one. There is a preference to turn them off on certain pages that has caused some confusion in the past.
Check out the following link for the list of supported tags.
http://avantgo.com/developer/web/bi gmatrix.html [avantgo.com]
Enjoy, dK
Slashdot via Email (Score:2)
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Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? (Score:1)
CDPD is twice as fast, gives your palm real TCP/IP access, and costs anywhere from $5-$15 less per month. The palm VII is tied to the Palm.net service, and you have to use PQAs for everything (you can still use them with a CDPD service if you want, so it's not an advantage).
Added bonus, you can take the modem off and revert to a smaller form factor if desired (note - my Palm Vx _with_ it's Minstrel V is smaller than the Palm VII).
For 95% of users, the VII is not worth the drawbacks.
Re:I'd better not buy a Palm VII... (Score:1)
And of course the "pirst fost"'ers would have twice as much stuff to do their dirty work...
Does it have to be? (Score:2)
You used a closed-source BIOS to load your operating system, didn't you?
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Re:Is it open source? (Score:3)
Re:Where's the AvantGo Channel? (Score:1)
Where's the AvantGo Channel? (Score:1)
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Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? (Score:1)
Re:I am L337, g1v3 m3 w4r3z!!! (Score:1)
Finally (Score:1)
What does this one add? (Score:1)
Slashdot (Score:1)
Re:PQA? (Score:2)
Go to Palm [palm.com] for developer info.
Ouch... cost... (Score:1)
LOL =) Thanks, tho - it's makes perfect sense to do this.. =)
I know it's not official... (Score:4)
Almost makes me want to get a Palm VII, though...
Works with the Palm Vx/OmniSky combo also... (Score:1)
The updated palm link (Score:1)
whoops--there goes my monthly bandwith allocation! (Score:1)
time to sign up for the unlimited volume plan [palm.com]
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Re:What does this one add? (Score:2)
I've been using the RG consulting /. PQA for a while. The two advantages I see to the official one are the ability to read comments (depending on the troll factor that might or might not be an advantage :-). The other is that there is one less server in the loop so reliability goes up.
Re:Avantgo (Score:2)
It needs a bit of reworking. Seriously.
I just found out about it now but my first impression is that it's not that bad. It looks like it should work better than my current solution -- a second account with that uses the light settings. That still leaves in a lot of garbage. (Do we really need to have the "about" and "advertising" pages accessible from every page when dealing with a two inch screen?) This setup usually grabs the top five or so comments if I'm lucky. If I'm not, the comments pages for most stories are inaccessible to me because the AvantGo conduit either times out or goes over the 1.5MB limit I've set for it. Either way it takes a long time to hotsync this way.
First of all, it should have the twenty recent posts on the front page. In bold, please.
I'd prefer a link to the twenty most recent posts instead.
Second, the description pages for each post should have the top 10 scored comments listed automatically, and, of course, trunicated to about 5K overall.
That sounds pretty good.
Think how a such a site would work. I don't want to use a 5-level pull for 250K of site when I only view about 40k of it.
That's still a huge improvement over a 2-level pull that still chews up 1100KB for viewing 40-60KB of information.
I mean, the organization needs alot of work.
It's still a huge improvement over previous methods.
and the point is? (Score:2)
Rich
Is it open source? (Score:1)
Re:WAP (Score:1)
How about a WAP interface? All the major news sites have them BBC, CNN etc.
Go to slashdot.org with a wap phone and you get a wap version of Slashdot. It's only the headlines but who would want to read the comments on a phone anyway?
And surely it can't be too hard to do as I'm sure the slashdot guys would have had the foresight to do all their content management in XML and therefore just need to knock up a quick XSL to do the translation into WML...
Obviously, three years ago they had the foresight to use XML. XML isn't the only way to do things, and it's as easy to dynamicly create WAP pages from a db as it is from XML, and due to some speed issues with XML::Parser in perl, it's a hell of a lot faster too
How about a WAP interface? (Score:1)
Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? (Score:3)
Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) (Score:2)
Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? (Score:3)
Also, right now, the modem comes with a $150 rebate if you stay for 6 months.
The advantage to having a modem is you can just pop it off and keep the sleek form factor when only needing PDA access.
OmniSky's support is execelent. They have also treated the beta team very well (Free service during the beta, 15% off the rate plan, a free carying case, and the $150 rebate).
I definitly have to recommend OmniSky above the Palm VII for anyone with a Palm V (or soon a Visor).
I'd better not buy a Palm VII... (Score:3)
At least now, power shortages can stop me..
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the PDA access is a great idea, but what about.... (Score:1)
Am I doing something wrong? (Score:1)
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Screenshots ? (Score:1)
Though I have recommended my friend to look at it,
I feel the need for some screenshots for Palm interfaces like this.
Re:WAP (Score:1)
Sitescooper - what AvantGo should be like (Score:1)
However, quite a few of us have already ditched AvantGo in favour of Sitescooper [sitescooper.cx], which is a web-clipping engine oriented towards packaging up news sites for view offline on a PDA, using a DOC or HTML-based viewer. It's a lot smarter and more configurable than AG, and it's GPLed.
Among the hundreds of sites supported is Slashdot, which is displayed showing all stories with a comment filter at level 3. Check it out [sitescooper.cx]. If you have a Palm with a DOC reader or iSilo [isilo.com] installed, you can pick up the previous day's news scooped into iSilo [sitescooper.cx] and DOC [sitescooper.cx] formats.
(Disclaimer: I'm the main author of sitescooper, and myself and Kornelis Sietsma came up with the site file for slashdot.)
Re:Why do it closed? (Score:1)
That reminds me... (Score:4)
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WAP (Score:3)
And surely it can't be too hard to do as I'm sure the slashdot guys would have had the foresight to do all their content management in XML and therefore just need to knock up a quick XSL to do the translation into WML...
Nick
bias? (Score:5)
Yes, I know AvantGo can read the "stripped-down" HTML version, but why not make an official AvantGo channel that looks good, with a little graphic or something. It seems this would reach a larger audience.
Maybe it wouldn't be as cool as wireless though..
It's an idea.
wish
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AvantGo/similar? (Score:4)
PQA? (Score:1)
Re:What does this one add? (Score:1)
Its just not slashdot. (Score:1)
Re:How about a WAP interface? (Score:1)
Invalid redirect format.
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Re:WAP (Score:1)
Besides, who's getting WAP right now? These 4 line cell phones.. The readability and interactivity on those phones is crap. Maybe when some serious functionality gets out there, WAP (or whatever succeedes it) will be useful to write for on a large-scale basis.
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Re:PQA? (Score:2)
A PQA is made up of a subset of HTML and images. The HTML is tokenized and compressed into a 5 bit data format.
Palm provides a windows based PQA compiler. I have a GPL compiler/decompiler posted at www.linuxlabs.com/software/linpqa.htm l [linuxlabs.com]. It's early alpha but it is useable (I've used it anyway).
Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) (Score:2)
AvantGo fragments the Web and encourages sites to remove their Palm accessible content in favor content available only through their propietary interface. Read about it at: http://goatee.net/2000/06#19mo [goatee.net]
Why do it closed? (Score:2)
Gimmie the source and I'll hack it together for the rest of the palm devices!
Re:bias? (Score:3)
I currently use the "light" version of Slashdot with AvantGo, and it rather sucks. It's usable, but not pretty, and forget trying to read comments. I'd love a configurable AvantGo channel that would let me read comments at +2 and above, with nice formatting...
I'm not much of a programmer, so I haven't really looked at the specs, but how hard is it to write an AvantGo channel?
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Re:bias? (Score:1)
If you just wanted to grab the stories in a nice-looking fashion, it shouldn't be too hard to write a script (php3 or perl, pick your poison) that grabs $name_of_site.xml and turns it into some AvantGo HTML - something like http://slashtogo.sourceforge.net/convert.php3?www. slashdot.org (or www.yourofficegeek.com, etc.) - does anybody want to help start on this?
Re:Why do it closed? (Score:1)
Re:Comparison between Palm VII and Omnisky? (Score:2)
"Sweet creeping zombie Jesus!"
Re:Will it.... (Score:1)
Other Palms (Score:2)
The 'light' version of
Anyone know if there's a free/open app for PQA support on non-Palm VIIs?
-Dave
Cool. (Score:1)
Re:That reminds me... (Score:1)
Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) (Score:2)
Yes, I read the reference. Then I explained to you how AvantGo works. Now I will give you some URLs, as per your request, to show you that AvantGo does not fragment the web. All the conduit does is cache HTML pages and store them on your device. You might want to quit believing everything you read. That guy from your link didn't know what he was talking about and neither do you.
http://avantgo.hollywood.com/ [hollywood.com]
http://www.pdalive.com/avantgo/ [pdalive.com]
http://avantgo.10best.com/ [10best.com]
http://www.women.com/avantgo/horoscopes/ [women.com]
http://www.all-legends.com/avantgo/ [all-legends.com]
http://www.mapquest.com/avantgo/ [mapquest.com]
Anything else you'd like to add?
wish
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Re:How about a WAP interface? (Score:1)
BTW, the Erricson 280 is a very cool phone.
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Re:Am I doing something wrong? (Score:2)
Now you get it...
(admittedly, it wasn't that funny in the first place, but w/e. And yerricide, if you know someone named Himu, tell him Jacob says hi.)
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Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) (Score:1)
um (Score:1)
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WAP vs Web Clippings (Score:1)
So many people seem to be jumpimg over any and all 'wired' solutions in favor of wireless, it just doesn't make sense to me. There is no way I'm diving into YET ANOTHER monthly fee.
Re:bias? (Score:1)
-J
Works well... (Score:2)
Re:um (Score:1)
-J
What city please? (Score:1)
sulli
Re:That reminds me... (Score:1)
No.
Re:Is it open source? (Score:1)
iSilo - document viewer/convertor (Score:1)
Re:bias? (Say NO to AvantGO) (Score:2)
The AvantGo service just keeps track of your favorite sites and allows you to download them into your pda when you sync with your computer. Handy. You can view any web page with the AvantGo viewer / service. I currently have AvantGo fetch my SETI@home stats every time I sync.
If you read the documentation about how to create an AvantGo channel, you will see that is is nothing more than a HTML file on a webserver somewhere. Yes, they encourage you to use a subset of HTML because their browser can't do things like tables... but it's still HTML.
Last time I checked, a popular console browser among linux enthusiasts only recognized a subset of HTML as well. No one accuses lynx of fragmenting the web. Do some research on AvantGo before you blast it.
From AvantGo Developer Resources [avantgo.com]: "In its most basic form, an AvantGo channel is just another web site.There's more to it than that, of course. An AvantGo channel page doesn't contain all the bells and whistles you might see on, say, a web page in Internet Explorer 5.0. But if you know how to create a web page, you can make yourself an AvantGo channel."
wish
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It's probably just grabbing the text (Score:1)
Re:What city please? (Score:2)
How do you get ad revenue? (Score:1)
Are there some text-based ads being used?