
Lucent to Offer Cheap Wavelan Cards 231
Glarvat the Hepcat writes, "Lucent is preparing to sell new 11 Mbps cards at costs to rival some of the 2 Mbps cards such as WebGear. They also are supposed to be also to handle distances of up to 1500 feet. Released to select retailers by late March. " Recently we ordered a few Lucent cards at the Geek Compound to test them out. The impressive thing about these things is that Wavelan has Linux drivers: Source code and all. How many vendors have tarballs on their sites? The hardware gateways are fairly expensive, but simply setting them up peer to peer and using IP Masqing works pretty well. I haven't tested the range but they quite quick.
Price (Score:2)
Lets stop praying for someone to save us and save ourselves. ~KMFDM
Faster than, well a 10baseT card... (Score:2)
kwsNI
ADSL with wireless (Score:2)
somebody will be happy about this: (Score:3)
Also, the @stake folks doing Guerilla Networking.
Also, the Midcoast (Maine) Internet folks, although they've standardized on Breezecom.
-russ
Availability outside the US? (Score:2)
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There are two versions of the drivers (Score:2)
Im not suprised (Score:1)
already using them in Linux routers (Score:4)
As a side note, I will be getting one of these nice 11 meg links to my house shortly.
802.11 (Score:2)
Good thing. (Score:1)
Long distance too... (Score:3)
It is very cool, You can hook up high-gain directional antennas to the bridges and get upto a 5 mile (I got 1.8 mi. easily) point-to-point wireless link. Might want to check if the frequency if FCC OK first though - I worked for the USAF, so it didn't matter to me < grin >.
Linux not supported (Score:2)
drivers (Score:1)
Health Side Effects???? (Score:2)
I need to get my home computers networked and I am a little worried about bombarding my house w. radio waves 24/7.
Between my cordless phones and a wavelan network, I am thinking about subjecting my family to a very large dose of 2.4Ghz.
Can anyone give my pointers to studies showing that 2.4Ghz transmiters are completely harmless to people (esp pregnant women and small children) cats, fish and plants????
Thanks!
trikster2@hotmail.com
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:2)
The ISA/PCI adapter is delivered as a sole adapter; the PC card, which completes the solution, has to be ordered as a separate item.
So that comes to around $250 per machine, plus the gateway. A little rich for my blood still....
Re:ADSL with wireless (Score:1)
Huh? (Score:3)
Aironet at Tcl/Tk Conference (Score:3)
They worked well when they worked, but they had a pretty limited range. They didn't work, for example, at the podium and thus no presenters were able to do any "real" demonstrations.
This was the first time Usenix tried offering such a service, so it's understandable that it wasn't perfect. I hope they continue to offer this service, but don't think they're close to eliminating traditional network services just yet.
PS: The ISP was jump.net.
Is the base station necessary? (Score:1)
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:1)
Lets stop praying for someone to save us and save ourselves. ~KMFDM
Re:Faster than, well a 10baseT card... (Score:1)
- EraseMe
Re:Health Side Effects???? ; ) (Score:1)
huh??????????? (Score:2)
Lucent driver is *not* a source driver (Score:4)
The "source" tarball contains a skeleton C code which links against a binary module to do the actual work.
So, you get all the great disadvantages of binary drivers: x86 only, no support for Linux 2.3 or BSD, etc, etc...
The older generation of WaveLan cards have been supported by a truly open source driver for years now
"but they quite quick. " (Score:2)
BLuetooth != Wireless ethernet replacement (Score:1)
Re:Long distance too... (Score:3)
Maximum theoretical (Score:1)
Re:802.11 (Score:5)
Really Glad (Score:1)
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:2)
The company I work for actually sells gateways too www.wilinx.com [wilinx.com]
Hardware + tarballs + bootdisks = IOI SCSI (Score:3)
Their cards are based on the ignitio chipsets, which makes it quite performant and stable under Linux...
And they've been doing so long before the linux hyped.
Okay... I'll do the stupid things first, then you shy people follow.
Re:ADSL with wireless (Score:1)
Re:Linux not supported (Score:2)
Seriously... it's probably based around the Lucent Wavelan IEEE chipset (what lives in the Apple Airport and others) as that's the 11Mbit chipset that they've been selling. There is already a working driver for these devices.
Re:huh??????????? (Score:1)
Re:drivers (No, you are wrong) (Score:3)
http://www.fasta.fh-dortmund.de/users/andy/wvla
as per the pcmcia-cs documentation.
Re:Is the base station necessary? (Score:1)
Re:huh??????????? (Score:2)
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:1)
Lets stop praying for someone to save us and save ourselves. ~KMFDM
802.11 implementation (Score:5)
Here at our university we measured the range of the Wavelan produkts years ago. This new 11 Mbps still won't cover more then 40 Meters inside a building. Solid walls cannot be penetrated with the signal strength of only 100mW@2.4GHz . When the WaveLANs are used outdoors, the range is increased to 500 meters or more provided there is line of sight. We also tested that a small FM signal can block all the communication of the supposed robust CDMA radio.
Probably the big break will come from bluetooth [bluetooth.com] this standard is technically superiour to the IEEE commity design. It is cheap enough to be build into laptops, PDAs, mp3 players, etc.
The Linux driver for the WaveLAN cards are only partly distributed in source code. A binairy exists in the distribution to talk to their MAC chip. They will not disclose the interface to they propierary chipset...
Just my 5 eurocents...
Johan.
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:1)
Offtopic, but I could use some advice. (Score:2)
I'm thinking about possibly wireless networking a few computers in my house. The trouble is that it is a rather large house with old fashion walls (e.g., thick and plaster) and i'm not too sure how capable these cards are in such an environment. Anyone have experience with this? I'd need to run the main card on my linux box (e.g., need linux support), and, say, 2 PC PCI cards, and one laptop card. What might this cost? What brand would you recommend? I'd like to get atleast 10mbps, if it doesn't cost too much.
I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks
Re:Health Side Effects???? (Score:1)
Grtz, Jeroen
Re:huh??????????? (Score:1)
I'm really impressed with the grammar in these comments. Not a stray apostrophe in the lot, until I got down to here. Amazing, compared to the Katz article I read the other day. Perhaps technical content attracts technically correct people?
Anyway, it's not one's, it's ones. Please do better next time.
why does one need the $350 Gateway? (Score:1)
If I already have a box acting as a (cable modem-) router/firewall/masquing machine and put a PC card into that one, so all the other talk to that as my gateway, why would I need the extra "Residential Gateway" with a $350 price tag? Does it have some extra functionality or is that the price of a box doing what I described? Maybe can it handle masquing the dreaded H323 protocol (Netmeeting et al)??
Insight would appreciated.
Roland
As a side note..Alternative 'base stations' (Score:1)
This seems like a great option for those home users with both iBook's / Powermacs, and their linux / unix boxes and laptops.
The cost of the airport is cheaper than the mentioned wavelan base, but I have heard it doesn't work quite as well. Anyways, to each his own.
Ben Brewer
brewer@nullified.org & tidepool@suspicious.org
Use Apple Airport Basestation as gateway (Score:1)
It requires a Mac running MacOS 8.6 or higher to initially configure the Airport Basestation, but since I set it to run in bridging mode on startup it has run perfectly without a Mac around.
At this time, this was the cheapest way to get the Lucent cards on a bridged solution as neither the Lucent [wavelan.com] nor GPL [fh-dortmund.de] driver can currently run the card in promiscuous mode (necessary for the kernel bridging code).
Re:Availability outside the US? (Score:3)
-russ
DELL is also going Wireless (Score:1)
I just received my Webgear Aviator 2Mbps cards last week and they work well but 2 Mbps is a little slow for my desktop machines. With 11 Mbps I'm tempted to get rid of all those nasty cables...
Dell article: http://www1.pcworld.com/pcwtoday/article/0,1510,1
Re:802.11 implementation (Score:2)
Bluetooth is designed for short ranges only. The first devices will have a range of 10 meters, later they will extend the specication to up to 100m for some devices...
Re:Lucent driver is *not* a source driver (Score:1)
Re:huh??????????? (Score:2)
URLs (Score:3)
Midcoast Wireless [midcoast.net]
-russ
I told them about Open Hardware Certification (Score:1)
I didn't read /. articles more than that main page announcement, and decided to be initiative today. I sometimes tell to Hardware Vendors about that Certification, so they might even notify it's existence.
And I do this because I like to see more Open Hardware. I like to see the kind of future where every Hardware Vendor must release specs of their product - if they want to get significant market share. That's my share of doing something toward it.
That's my copy of feedback to that Vendor:
No Wires Needed has Linux drivers too (Score:2)
Lucent (Score:1)
Neat potential (Score:2)
This is much slower then the cards announced here, but you can do an awfull lot with 2MB per second, and this $150 price will be darn hard to beat.
My current plan is to take an old 486 laptop with only 8MB ram and small hard drive and install a Linux configuration that includes only kernal, networking, and an X server.
The window manager (Gnome/Enlightenment) and all my applications will then run on my server in the basement, with the display pointed to the laptop. As a side note, this type of configuration is supported by default by Linux, but is at best a terrible kludge with winXX.
This will make the laptop a thin client that can sit on the kitchen table, or roam around the house, but with the full power of my server at my fingertips.
The big drawback will be the 640x480 resolution of the older laptop system, but I can work with that. The 8Mb on the laptop will likely just barely enough to handle managing the display and networking code.
Adding a cheap and semi-legal low power FM broadcasting homebuilt kit to the sound card on the same server should allow me to set up a simple web based interface to play any of my MP3's and pick them up with a walkman, or any other stereo in the house.
Note that this solution is totally tweaked towards bang for the buck, not high performance (sound quality, bandwidth, etc).
However, it is dirt cheap (should be able to do the whole deal for less then $200), and all relies on proven, flexible, and established technology, and will likely be plenty "good enough". Support for the Webgear Aviatior cards is opensource (as far as I can tell), and is already a part of the kernel (as far as I can tell).
If anyone is interested in the nuts and bolts of this procedure once I get everything working, I will be happy to post detailed instructions and parts sources on my site. The kit is backordered, so it could show up tomorrow, or sometime next century.
Bill Kilgallon
Re:Health Side Effects???? (Score:4)
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:2)
Why bother though. You've got to set up and administer the box, with both a WaveLan system and a regular Ethernet card. If you use the gateway, it will do it for you. Same result, different approach. Also, in most cases, I think the Linux PC would be more expensive, unless you already have one lying around.
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"You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."
Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:1)
Linux drivers exist for WebGear Aviator cards (Score:1)
I only post this because the story seems to suggest that only the wavelan cards are supported under Linux.
Of course, the WebGear Aviator 2.4 cards that I have are only 2 Mbps, but that's good enough for me, because I'm using them to share a 256 kbps DSL connection. And I think they're a lot cheaper - I got 2 cards + 2 isa-pcmcia adapters for $110 at CrapUSA (that includes a $40 rebate).
The Aviator 2.4 cards are also supported by NetBSD, and it shouldn't take all that much work to get the NetBSD driver to work for OpenBSD and FreeBSD.
Re:Linux not supported (Score:2)
I ended up with <a href="http://www.wavelan.com/support/software/des
You have to have the PCMCIA services source to install & use it though
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Re:Price (Score:1)
This screams for wire-level crypto (Score:4)
With the proliferation of wireless devices like this, it seems to be more important than ever to make sure that we aren't sending unencrypted packets between machines.
Does the 802.11 spec cover this, or is it just a connectivity protocol for wireless devices (I assume the latter)?
900 MHz cordless phones have made claims to some sort of encryption for years, but I don't take what they put on the box at face value -- I suspect it's pretty weak stuff.
Can somebody provide some pointers to IP-level cryptography? I'll be wanting to go with an in-home set up like this in the near future but I really chafe at the idea of how trivially easy it would be for people to sniff my packets. I realize that encryption is easily built into higher-level protocols, but I really like the idea of minimum disclosure to eavesdroppers, particularly for signals that otherwise wouldn't even leave my home (not everything is outbound to the ISP, you know).
Gateways and costs and such (Score:2)
A couple things:
I just installed these things for the first time on friday, and was thoroughly impressed. They're working well in our industrial complex, despite poor placement on our part (haven't run any benchmarks yet, it could be dropping to a lower speed).
A couple observations: The gateway is really just a little bridge. Don't plan on getting 11Mbps out of it though-- it has a 10BaseT interface on the other side! Perhaps someone could put together a nice little embedded linux solution. :)
Also, you're back to shared media days. It's like putting everyone on a 10Mb hub. I don't know if there's any way to get it to scale (probably not if they all use one frequency) by breaking it down into more networks.
- Matt Ingenthron
Why not promiscuous mode? (Score:1)
Open source driver here: (Score:4)
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Cheap? (Score:2)
So let's see... from my gateway to my laptop, I need:
$179 card for the laptop
$179 card for the PC
$69 cheesy pcmcia adapter for PC
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$427 for the minimum setup..
Ack. Don't you hate it when post-IPO dot-com-ers decide for you what's "cheap?"
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Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:2)
The cool thing about this reader is that I can have two PCMCIA slots on the FRONT (it goes in a 3.5 or 5.25" drive bay -- adapter included) of my PC, so I can also read things like digital camera flash cards. This is an ISA card, btw but then again it's only PCMCIA so you can't expect really high bandwidth.
Overall, the installation of the hardware took 15 minutes and configuring/compiling the software/drivers took around 3 hours after poking around to get ad-hoc networking up. After that it's been extremely reliable and very tolarant of me pulling out the card and reinserting it on the fly.
I found this web page really helpful for the configuration: here [hp.com].
Re:This screams for wire-level crypto (Score:3)
802.11 has a encryption spec for it (I think the original "Wire Equivolent Privicy" had a 4-bit RC4 -- which is about worthless, thw Lucent Gold cards advertise a 128bit crypto, so I guess it got better).
However I don't think that is the right way to fix the problem. After all if you transmit important data and it is encrypted over 802.11, but unencrypted out the cable plant, across the global backbone, and off to wherever you sent it, you have only fixed about 100 feet worth of a (possabbly) multi-thousand mile problem.
Exactly! Try looking at IPSEC, it is required for IPv6, and optional for IPv4. You could also just try to tunnel everything through SSH.
Nokia Wireless LAN Products? (Score:2)
The other day, I was going to post an "Ask Slashdot" to see if anyone had tried to use Nokia Wireless LAN products, if anyone knew if they were planning to explicitly support Linux, and how best to pressure them to do so. Sounds like it will be easier given the fact that we can point to Lucent support for Linux.
If anyone has any answers to the questions I asked above, let me know.
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Dave Aiello
Re:why does one need the $350 Gateway? (Score:2)
He's not asking if his linux box cabn magically pickup radio waves, he's asking whether he can install a $179 card in his router and a $179 card in his (say) laptop, and have the two talk together, or whether he *needs* the seperate, external $350 (>> $179) residential gateway which has (DHCP, NAT, Ethernet) nothing his router can't do already!
A partial answer: the hardware can do it (I know a guy who works on them) but I dunno whether the GPL drivers can. (But if i had to bet I would guess they do...)
Re:Im not suprised (Score:2)
Bluetooth *IS* slow, and *IS* short range, and that won't change; it's not supposed to and doesn't need to.
And Lucent isn't having any problem maintaining market share. Those 11Mbps cards WAIL!
wavelan long distance (Score:2)
Basestation/gateway does more then you think! (Score:4)
That will work, but "ad hoc" mode (which is the "no base station" mode) misses out on a few things you get when you have the access-point/basestation thing.
So if you are using unpluged laptops, a base station will can increse your battery life. If you have problems getting the range you want a base station can help that too.
a ck-off thing. B will hear both messages, but they will damage each other, so all B will realy hear is a really long collison. With an access point (either where B is, or close by) it will mediate A and C's demands to talk. The RTS (request to send) is a ver short message so the chances of collisons when sending them is quite low. There is a slight increse in latency this way.
* The hidden transmitter is where you have, say, three machines, A, B, and C. A can hear B but not C, C and hear B but not A, and B can hear both. If A and C both talk they don't hear each other, so they won't do the ehternet I-heard-a-collision-while-I-was-talking-so-I'll-b
Re:Linux not supported (Score:2)
I use a Lucent 2Mbps 802.11 card on my laptop, and when I got my hands on an 11Mbps version, I slapped it in, and linux gave me two nice positive beeps.. and it seemed to work.. but then it didn't. Couldn't tcpdump, couldn't communicate with the other hosts on the lan.... so perhaps we needa bit of driver tweaking. (I am using the latest wavelan drivers)
Hey.. it didnt' crash though..
Scaling (Score:2)
CMU has a very large deployment of Lucent Wavelan (using it right now!). Since these things can hop between different frequencies ("channels"), it's possible to put a few stations in a lecture hall so that everyone doesn't have to share one frequency. Through careful planning it's possible to spread the signal out arbitrarily far (most of our campus is covered, even outside).
Check out http://www.cmu.edu/computing/wireless/ -- they talk a bit about what they do to scale.
Re:Health Side Effects???? (Score:5)
Here's a few facts though.
2.4Ghz is not ionizing radiation. It can't break down molecular bonds. (This is the chief cause of damage from higher-energy radiation, UV and up...)
2.4Ghz is the frequency (well.. 2.45) that most microwaves ovens run at. They don't mutate your food.. they just warm it up. (Really, that's all they do.. warm it up by vibrating polarized molecules.. chiefly water)
These network cards use in the neighborhood of 50 to 100 milliwats of power. Your cellphone probably uses about 10 times that. Your microwave only cooks things because it uses 6000 times that (600 watts)
If you turned your microwave on, with the door open (if you could) and stood there.. or if you just had a leak,the only thing that would happen is you would heat up. it wouldn't mutate your DNA, it would just increase your body temperature. Granted, if this happened rapidly, or in a focused area, it could be dangerous.... but that's all it does.
And the proof is in society. So far,there really aren't any problems.
Re:Hardware + tarballs + bootdisks = IOI SCSI (Score:2)
I now own two of their controllers.
Re:ADSL with wireless (Score:2)
Re:Cheap? (Score:2)
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Re:huh??????????? (Score:2)
Re:Not particluarly offtopic, so here's some advic (Score:2)
thanks
Re:802.11 (Score:2)
It really is a conspiracy by the Clinton administration to prevent consumer privacy by having funny rules about encryption. Visit my wireless lan in Starkville, Mississippi and send your president a letter about how you would like freely distributable encryption. I'm sure the Secret Service are going to get lots of these querries from a great deal many other places too.
Here's what you need to know:
gateway: 192.168.1.1
More info please! (Score:2)
Re:Good Point! (Score:2)
This is by no means a scientific measurement of RF power, but last night when my little Nokia digital cell phone rang under my 17 inch monitor, the screen shifted to the left just before the call. It takes power to mess up a monitor. The 5 watt UHF Motorola radios at work will move the picture on the computer monitors half way to the left. Back in my teenage years, I remember a 150 PEP mobile 11 meter linear amplifier that would invade all televisions and telephones on a block. (I would strongly discurage the use of said amplifier for reasons other than safety.)
Taking my directional antenna and feeding the full power of a flood ping to the heart of my monitor does . . . nothing. So, my guess is that these wireless devices are not as potent as the mighty 600 milliwatt cell phone.
Oh yeah.. (Score:3)
Thanks
Microwave oven DOS attacks (Score:2)
however, if some nut decides to take his loud 2.4GHz oven apart and aim the waveguide in my general direction, my crystal controlled 2.4GHz connection can be expected to fail.
Re:Long distance too... (Score:2)
Every card I've ever been "allowed" *grin* to take apart had Raytheon transmitter components. In fact, they were all OEM Raytheon Raylink adapters. (Breezecom, WebGear, a few "non-companies"...) I don't know what AT&T put in their cards...
[I would caution people thinking wireless is the holy grail... the transmitter may not fry you and your pets, but it can interfere and even in rare cases damage components inside your computer. My breezecom card does interesting things to audio playback and messes up a few VHF channels. (If I look closely, I can see pixel interference on the screen too.)]
Re:Is the base station necessary? (Score:2)
In an "infrastructure" network, all the cards talk to an access point. This has the net effect of doubling the range between mobile units. As a mobile unit moves around, it can switch from one AP to another -- which ever one has the best signal, just like a cell phone. With enough access points placed throughout a building, one can move freely about the complex and never lose connectivity.
A bit about microwave ovens.. (Score:2)
However, water is not the only "perfect receiver". Sugar also absorbes the microwave energy very well. So well in fact, that the "water" in the sugar can be wrenched out of the sugar molecules leaving behind the carbon. (It's a fun experiment, but I'm not responsible for any damage to your microwave, person, house, pets, etc.)
This brings me to the non-ionizing radiation part... This is true. The microwave signal isn't going to hit a strand of DNA and break it like a gamma ray. However, many of the molecular substances in the human body will absorb microwave energy and eventually be damaged. In your example of standing infront of a microwave with the door open, if you stood there long enough, it would blind you. (Of course, if you stood there "too long", your blood would boil and you would subsequently explode -- odds are, you'd already be well on your way to dead by then anyway.)
And the proof is in society. So far,there really aren't any problems.
Aside from insane and/or stupid people placing living things (babies, dogs, etc.) in their microwave.
PS: This is also why the 2.4GHz band is unlicensed. Too many things in the environment absorb or otherwise interfere with the signal(s).
How would I do that? (Score:2)
See the situation is like this, I can get ADSL (I'm right at the service edge) But my cousin who lives about a mile or so down the street can't get it. If we could hook him up under my ADSL it would be a great solution especially if I could do it under linux. He's been begging me to find some solution to his problem. So I'm intrested in the cost of the equipment and how the setup would actually work. (The hardware end, I have a few spare IPs).
A Cheaper wavelan alternative (Score:2)
drivers, and you can pick these up at almost any computer store(compusa,
frys, buy.com) for under $200. I got these going in my house, one in my
router box and one in my laptop, and i routine pull 120k-200k a sec from
across my house. Also, the webgear *include* the isa-to-pcmcia bridge
cards, unlike the wavelans. overall, these have been extremely stable
cards, with solid working drivers under linux and windows, and full
compatbility between the two, which is nice.
Re:Health Side Effects???? (Score:2)
Try again. My experiments with microwave attenuation, S band 2.4GHz and X band 10GHz, show otherwise. I found most organic things absorb high frequencies into heat. Here's a quote from this link that looks into microwave behavior: [virginia.edu]
It's a common misconception that the microwaves in a microwave oven excite a natural resonance in water. The frequency of a microwave oven is well below any natural resonance in an isolated water molecule, and in liquid water those resonances are so smeared out that they're barely noticeable anyway.
Here are some more unwise [amasci.com] things to do with microwave ovens and a link to microwave myths.
More interesting stuff:
Here are some more ways to destroy [utwente.nl] your microwave oven (not recommended!)
Re:This screams for wire-level crypto (Score:2)
"Latching oneself into the cable plant" isn't needed if the office uses hubs. Walk into an office, and use the ethernet jack there. Frequently even the confrence rooms have them. Driving through the parking lot isn't likely to get you much at my office, 802.11 seems to have a hard time escaping the semi-reflectave coating on the windows (which I susspect was put on to make it impossable to get FM radio reception inside!).
However smartass aside, yes, it is simpler to tap into a wirless net then a wired one, at least if you are talking about an office LAN. If you are talking about a Internet connection from home, there are generally wires outside that are fairly easy to tap into (the demark for my T1 may be inside, but it is obvious which wires coming into the house are the T1!). Plus if the tap is being done by the ISP, or the LEC (presumably as the result of a goverment order) it is even easyer then them driving anywhere near the transmiter!
I still think it is much-much-much better to do end-to-end-encryption then just cover one link hop. After all, do you want to solve the problem once and be done with it forever, or do you want to solve it for 802.11, 802.3, HDLC, async-PPP, and on and on for several new network technologies each year? Plus wouldn't it be better to be able to communicate securly from home to work, or your home to your friends home, and not just the last 100 feet of each connection?
And only my local traffic needs to be private? I should be worried someone might snoop the MP3's I'm sending to my bedroom, but not care if they see the smut I'm fetching from Australia? Or maybe the research I'm doing on a new drug the HMO doctor wants to put me on? I want it all private. Every bit. Over as many miles of the path as I can get.
Security of these cards? (Score:2)
Curious?
- Mark
I'm happy with my webgear aviator2.4 (Score:2)
Bandwidth in megabits/sec isn't the big deal for wireless; its connectivity, range and compatibility that counts.
I do wish devices with crypto didn't cost more (even silly 40 or 64 bit crypto prevents casual eavesdropping). It's not like putting it in the product costs the vendors anymore (I wouldn't be surprised if non crypto enabled cards have the crypto silicon on them; just disabled)
Re:Availability outside the US? (Score:2)
Re:Basestation/gateway does more then you think! (Score:2)
Repeat after me: M o b i l e I P, Mobile IP.
Just install a good Mobile IP software to your "access points" and forget about the changing IP..
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Re:Price ... well sort of. (Score:2)
There's some actual circuitry in the drive-like thing, but it may just be stuff to control starting and stopping the cards/power support stuff, so it very well could be close to ISA.