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AMD Prepares To Ship Gaming SSDs 110

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Lucas123 writes An AMD website in China has leaked information about the upcoming release of a line of SSDs aimed at gamers and professionals that will offer top sequential read/write speeds of 550MB/s and 530MB/s, respectively. AMD confirmed the upcoming news, but no pricing was available yet. The SSDs will come in 120GB, 240GB and 480GB capacities and will use Toshiba's 19-nanometer flash lithography technology. According to IHS, AMD is likely entering the gaming SSD market because desktop SSD shipments are expected to experience a 39% CAGR between now and 2018.
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  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Friday August 08, 2014 @04:57AM (#47628731) Journal
    Assuming the spec sheet is accurate, the drive will use Toshiba flash and a 'Barefoot 3' controller(Indilinx, formerly OCZ, deathbed acquisition by Toshiba).

    Unsurprisingly enough, Toshiba also sells SSDs with Toshiba flash and Indilinx controllers(the only surprising part is keeping the 'OCZ' brand to do so). Where does AMD come in? I assume they aren't hoping to lose money by doing this; but I am having some trouble figuring out how.
    • by Lazere (2809091)
      It's so you can run your AMD SSD with your AMD RAM brought together by your AMD CPU and your AMD graphics card inside your AMD case. Now all they need is an AMD motherboard and an AMD power supply and you'll be able to build a computer with nothing but AMD.
    • by Nemyst (1383049)
      What it feels like is that you'll be able to get the AMD branded ones or get the same ones straight from Toshiba for less money. Perhaps some AMD models will be OEM-only in their Toshiba designation to reduce competition. Regardless, I don't remember OCZ's Vector drives (using the Barefoot 3 controller) making waves, and the 19nm lithography is going to push reliability down. Let's just hope they stick to MLC.

      For most gamers, a Crucial MX100 would most likely be a better purchase, or if you want something
      • They might be perfectly adequate drives, I haven't heard much about post-Toshiba OCZ; though it seems a bit crazy to buy company bankrupted by horrendous quality issues and then continue following its strategy; but I'm just baffled as to how they could end up being anything other than as or more expensive than the Toshiba equivalents.

        The market has certainly matured to the point where there are relatively cheap options that aren't a disaster or some JMicron mess that underperforms the HDD it replaced; bu
    • by trparky (846769)
      OCZ? *chuckles* *snorts* *laughs* *falls off chair laughing*

      Anyways, now that I had a good laugh for the day I can say that I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with any SSD (or any SSD made with components) from OCZ. Their reliability is shit and until Toshiba can clean up OCZ's act I won't touch an SSD made by them with someone else's ten foot pole.
    • is AMD wants to be able to sell you a PC ready to go. APU+Storage+Ram = computer, and in a few more years the APUs will be fast enough to hang with current gen consoles.
  • So what would be the difference between SSDs for gamers and those for non-gamers? The specs appear to be fairly normal high end for the current SSD market, but nothing exceptional. Maybe a sticker on it displaying a demon wielding an oversized SF gun?
    • Gamers spend more $$$

    • by BlackHawk-666 (560896) <ivan.hawkes@gmail.com> on Friday August 08, 2014 @05:17AM (#47628773) Homepage

      A sticker with ultraviolet reflectance so the black lights in your case make it look right wicked and totally worth the extra $80 you paid for commodity hardware with F4tal1ty's name on it.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The specs appear to be fairly normal high end for the current SSD market, but nothing exceptional.

      You mean capped at the SATA bus speed. It's hard to make something significantly better than that without connecting the drive directly to a PCIe connector.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Score Whore (32328)

        I test drove one of these for a couple of months: http://www.violin-memory.com/p... [violin-memory.com]

        It delivered way more than is advertised here and wasn't connected via PCIe. We're talking 2 GB/s BW and more than 250,000 IOPS with an average response time under 200 microseconds in my testing. It is kind of spendy and heavy as fuck.

        Also I have a very large penis.

    • by fisted (2295862)
      Same reason there are razors "for men" and "for women", despite being essentially the same thing just differently colored.
    • by gmhowell (26755)

      So what would be the difference between SSDs for gamers and those for non-gamers? The specs appear to be fairly normal high end for the current SSD market, but nothing exceptional. Maybe a sticker on it displaying a demon wielding an oversized SF gun?

      Get a woman in non functional but revealing body armor or space suit and put it into production!

    • by timeOday (582209)
      Cheap, fast, and unreliable, like overclocking your CPU and RAM.
  • by Mr_Silver (213637) on Friday August 08, 2014 @05:21AM (#47628783)

    Seems odd to call them "gaming SSDs" when they sound like just really fast SSDs. I'm actually surprised they are marketing them that way - especially since they'd reach a wider market if the didn't just target gamers.

    Plus are games really that much faster? When I bought my Samsung 840 I put everything on there. However as soon as I found out that the load times in HL2 weren't noticeably different (probably because the longest part of the "please wait" wasn't disk access) I quickly shifted the entire "steamapps" folder to my HDD.

    • Re:Gaming? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by jawtheshark (198669) * <slashdotNO@SPAMjawtheshark.com> on Friday August 08, 2014 @05:36AM (#47628819) Homepage Journal
      "Gaming" means: "Fast, overpriced and we don't care about reliability".
      • You forgot about the flames/demon/skull/half-naked-woman stickers.

        • by Misagon (1135)

          Those will be visible only if you connect the built-in UV LED to your fan controller.

      • by EmagGeek (574360)

        In other words, they're bring back OCZ.

    • I have a Samsung 840 PRO with 256GB, it is noticeably faster for most games, specially at startup. But I could leave without it. I rarely fill out it completely and when I do I just remove some games I don't play anymore.

    • Re:Gaming? (Score:4, Informative)

      by tlhIngan (30335) <slashdot AT worf DOT net> on Friday August 08, 2014 @10:24AM (#47630317)

      Seems odd to call them "gaming SSDs" when they sound like just really fast SSDs. I'm actually surprised they are marketing them that way - especially since they'd reach a wider market if the didn't just target gamers.

      They're not even really fast SSDs.

      550MB/s is the limit of SATA3. Something we've hit with SSDs from last year. Yes, we hit the limit of SATA3 just after SATA3 stuff started coming on the market.

      It's why Apple went PCIe with their SSDs (hitting 750MB/sec easy) - the bottleneck is no longer with the SSD or controller, it's the SATA interface.

      It's really more of a name thing since there's zero advantage going AMD SSD over going with anyone else. A Samsung 840 Evo already maxes SATA3 and comes in up to 1TB capacities. (Hint: when you see or hear 530+ MB/sec, that's the limit of SATA talking).

      It's almost pointless to measure these days - the last metric left is IOPS and that's at the point of diminishing returns when you're getting 20K, 40K IOPS.

      Now, if AMD really wanted to make a splash, they'd use PCIe and make sure you can boot off of it.

    • by Jahoda (2715225)
      So, because a game published in 2004 loads equally fast on SSD vs HDD, your conclusion is that there is no benefit in all games? Well, ok, so here's my anecdotal experience: with my Samsung 840 Pro vs. my HDD bulk disk in my workstation, the load time difference in Skyrim, Dishonored, Bioshock Infinite is hugely different. I didn't think I would mind moving these off onto the spinning disk for space reasons, and it's enough of a change that I'm getting ready to just buy one big bad SSD and be done with i
  • Trying to find a positive spin on this but.... no. Anyone?

  • by dohzer (867770) on Friday August 08, 2014 @06:05AM (#47628921) Homepage

    Sure, 39% CAGR, but what about the 390ppm ADGG on the CKOI? What does IHS think about that?

  • by Lumpy (12016) on Friday August 08, 2014 @07:15AM (#47629155) Homepage

    I recently added a 64gig SSD To a Panasonic Toughbook CF-18. yes a billion year old PATA laptop and it made an insane difference. Enough that the laptop was useable again for emergency services tasks. So instead of spending $4500 per truck again for new toughbooks, we are just upgrading all of the old laptops to SSD drives.

    Dirt cheap too if you use mSATA and mSATA to PATA adapters.

    • I updated an old Pentium II Thinkpad with a 512MB compactflash with an IDE adapter. It takes longer to power-up the laptop and go through the BIOS bootup sequence than to load Windows 98SE.

    • by EmagGeek (574360)

      Our local city government is doing the same thing with its entire fleet - police, fire, electricity, water/sewer, and trash. It's not that many units, perhaps 100 computers (we're a small city), but they're still saving $250K by "refreshing" instead of replacing.

      Nothing makes a slow computer feel faster than an SSD upgrade.

    • by MattGWU (86623)

      Damn, that's a good idea. I have a CF-27 running Gentoo or something, that I love to pieces but not really sure what to do with anymore. Thing used to be my daily laptop.

  • Since those are only reached at queue depths at 16, 32 or higher - which you'll never reach on a desktop machine.
    What you want is a drive with high IOPS at queue depths of 1, 2 and 4, maybe 8 as well.
    The higher the IOPS at the lowest queues, the more responsive your machine feels.

  • NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE!

    Sorry, NOT playing that game again.

    Crappy product from a customer-hostile company?

    Fuck that noise.

    Maybe AMD will make a sound marketing choice based on sound engineering again. But I'm not going to volunteer to hold my breath.

  • AMD, come on. Focus on refreshing your top lineup of CPUs, or become irrelevant.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Yawn. Plain vanilla SATA SSDs are a dime a dozen.

    Wake me up when NVME enabled, 4 lane PCI express, M.2 or SATA Express SSDs become available.

    SATA was designed for spinning rust drives and 6 gigabits (Along with encoding overhead) is a significant bottleneck

    Even that's not enough. Even if your PCI express connected SSD is fast, most still present themselves as generic AHCI devices. That works, but was also designed for old hard drives that can realistically only read and write one thing at a time. Only one

    • by phayes (202222)

      VOTE PARENT UP, it's the most insightful comment posted so far!

      I came into this to see if anyone else noticed that these supposedly high end SSD drives are still using SATA 3.0 & an anon beat me to it.

  • And the news arrives just on the day my Intel 330 SSD at work died (which is the second SSD which gave me problems).. Even though I have a Samsung 840 EVO at home, I still am very hesitant on SSD's in regard to durability and reliability...
  • For the past year or two more and more drive are stuck at the 550mb/second mark. Where is sata 4, running at 1200mb/s or better ?

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