Dell Fixes Ultrabook That Smelled of Cat Urine 133
Sockatume writes "The BBC is reporting that Dell's Latitude 6430u Ultrabooks have an interesting characteristic you won't find in any Macbook Air: the palm rest emits an odor like cat urine. An issue with a manufacturing process is thought to be to blame. Although Dell has assured potential customers that the issue has been fixed, reports in the Dell support forum indicate that units with the novel fragrance continue to ship out to users. Dell staff state that the palm rest will be replaced by Dell at no cost, but only if the unit is still under warranty."
Stands to reason (Score:5, Funny)
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Re: Stands to reason (Score:1)
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How about "Latitude 6430u: Your Cat Will Do More Than Just Sleep On The Keyboard"?
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The Dell smell. Not even your cat will know the difference.
Dude, you've been Delled! (Score:2)
Fact is, though I love the slogan of "Dude, you've been Delled!", for the most part, Dell has handled its rise from small to large quite well.
They've really -- for the most part -- avoided becoming the characteristic fortune-500 company, that decides to profiteer on their customers and supliers, and sees quality fall through the floor [followed by stock price], and ends up in the compost heap of an infinite loop of mergers with other fortune 500 companies, losing money [but never vanishing] the whole way.
Ho
Re:Stands to reason (Score:5, Funny)
dell has a 'drug free workplace' policy and insists all employees be piss tested.
now, FINALLY, I understand why.
they were looking for materials suppliers, of a sort...
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Just Michael Dell marking his territory.
Re:Stands to reason (Score:4, Funny)
Actually meth labs also smell like cat urine. So it might be that all the tiny elves that live inside the device were "overclocked" so to speak.
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Well, Fluffy *had* caught a record-setting number of mice about the plant recently . . .
hawk
Re:Stands to reason (Score:5, Funny)
What do you think the "u" in 6430u stands for?
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"U won't believe how much it smells like cat pee."
This is gonna be fun... (Score:1)
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Smell & Taste (Score:1)
Well (Score:1)
Least it was representative of the overall product before the fix
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Hey, maybe with Dell going private, all the quarterly-earnings-seeking cost-cutting will go away. Maybe they'll not have support that causes tooth pain and manufacture custom computers of some basic quality again.
Also maybe they'll make that pig-jet I designed.
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Sorry to say, but the business model at Dell is changing and they no longer offer much in the way of customization. They are actually moving away from Just In Time.
how is Dell going with its privates??? (Score:2)
we're starting to find out ;)
Dude! You're getting a Smell! (Score:5, Funny)
obviously this is why they don't ship mice with laptops, they were all eaten.
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I have two helpers to do that for me, thanks (Score:2)
they purr when they're doing it, too.
OK, Dell (Score:3, Insightful)
My basement also smells of cat urine. When are you going to come and fix it?
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when I was a kid we had our cat fixed, but the liter box area still smelled like urine
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when I was a kid we had our cat fixed, but the liter box area still smelled like urine
Well, maybe you should have used a pint box instead. ;-)
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Do not meddle in the affairs of cats... (Score:5, Funny)
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Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it.
So that's the fix... uninstall Windows?
Re:Do not meddle in the affairs of cats... (Score:4, Funny)
So that's the fix... uninstall Windows?
Close...the problem was that the machine was running Windows XPee.
A Feature! (Score:3)
Now that Dell is private again, they can continue to provide these innovative features without pressure from their stockholders.
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How about the issue with the BGAs of the NVIDIA (M650?) GPUs in the MacBook Pros of 2008? Even though it was a manufacturing defect (Apple pointed the finger at NVIDIA and NVIDIA pointed the finger at Apple), as the system integrator, Apple should have made things right right from the start. If I remember correctly, it wasn't until a class action lawsuit that Apple finally did something, which was to replace those computers that had actually gone bad. What Apple should have done was issue a recall and repla
Re:A Feature! (Score:4, Interesting)
This hasn't been my experience with Apple either. I had a Macbook Pro (17" 2008) that was affected by an issue with a bad nVidia card causing a black screen on boot up. nVidia claimed the issue did not affect my Macbook. Apple investigated and found a significant number of those Macbook owners who were affected, and warrantied the repair anyway. My Macbook Pro was 3 years out of warranty in late 2012 when I had this happen to my Macbook (it was 4 years old at the time), and Apple replace the motherboard free of charge, no questions asked. I made an appointment, brought it in, and they offered the repair to me after troubleshooting it on the counter.
I have also gone in with a missing key on a keyboard, and they replace it free of charge. I also had an iPhone fresh from the factory with markings on the case when I took it out of the box. I found this when it was shipped to my home. They replaced it with a new one, again no questions asked.
I do know that Apple always tops the satisfaction survey and has for the last decade. There's a reason for that, and it's certainly not due to poor service.
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sometimes fixing or replacing products they don't even make
Go home, Silvrmane. You're drunk.
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Wow! Apple will throw away my old third-party cable and allow me to buy a new one from them!? Why, that's just like repairing or replacing hardware not made by them!
Let me call you a cab. You're too far gone to even stumble home safely.
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1. Deny that a problem exists. Reports of the problem will silently disappear from their message boards, CSRs will either emit cluelessness, or (if challeged) suggest that customer misuse was the cause.
2. Wait. Despite the outward appearance
Re:A Feature! (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually, my experiences with Apple's (in store, at least) support has been extremely positive.
#1: yes, this is somewhat true. Though it's more like "deny it's a widespread or manufacturing defect".
#2: not really relevant to in-person support. If you ware just going to whine anonymously on a forum good luck anyway.
#3: My girlfriend is on her 4th iPhone 4S now. First she dropped (finally overpriced AppleCare comes in handy), second the mic went bad, 3rd wouldn't charge. Clearly some manufacturing issues on the last two but at least they replaced them with new phones (not refurbs... I guess another advantage of AppleCare) with no questions asked. Further, she brought in a 5+ year old Macbook (one of those white plastic ones) that had a (literal) battery meltdown. They replaced the whole case, battery, and even the keyboard (damaged by our cat ripping off a key). Again, no questions asked, no charge. Finally, they actually replaced the glass on my iPad a while back after my cat knocked it off a table (yeah, what's with my cats and Apple products... though it is ironic the original article is about Dell and cat piss...) at no charge. Guess my sob story was good, because I was expecting they'd charge ~$200 (in which case I would probably have done it myself).
Moral of the story is, yes, Apple will NEVER admit they do anything (in design or manufacturing) wrong, but they DO tend to stand behind their products...
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> if the buzz level of step 2 was low enough, continue to insist that
> product N is absolutely without fault, until it's time to release
> revision N+1, where the problem will silently be fixed, with
> absolutely no acknowledgement that the change was made to
> address any particular issue. If the buzz level of step 2 is high
> enough, Apple will then offer repair replacement, sometimes
> even for otherwise-out-of-warranty hardware.
"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at
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Which company did you say you work for?
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WiFi breaking after upgrading to iOS 7 is the latest one, in fact they are actively censoring any discussion of the issue.
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Easy.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10343601-263.html [cnet.com]
Sure, if you were willing to fork out some money they'd fix a problem caused by faulty design, but not otherwise.
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"You're holding it wrong."
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I'm pretty sure that with how much Apple cares about branding, "our stuff smells like cat piss" is a problem they would fix pretty quickly.
Nobody wants to be seen holding a smelly device.
Re:A Feature! (Score:5, Funny)
Are you kidding? They would delete the comments on the community discussion board and tell the users they're smelling it wrong.
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Or admit no fault but offer a free cover lined with Febreeze...
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Thanks man, you almost made me choke on an apple, which is ironically what I'm eating as a snack right now.
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Annoyed that this is getting modded "troll" when that's exactly what Apple would do and always seems to do. [slashdot.org]. And I'm an Apple customer.
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... pressure from their stockholders.
Methinks, it's more like the pressure was in the cat's bladder...
Pissed off customers (Score:2)
What a piss-poor excuse for a product launch. Don't these piss-ant Dell people have noses in their quality control department.
ETC
Re:Pissed off customers (Score:4, Funny)
and I thought only IBM sold a Pee-series
Re:Pissed off customers (Score:4, Funny)
I was disappointed to not find any Frosty Cat Piss posts down at -1.
I'll level with you (Score:5, Informative)
Seeing this on the front page is not exactly my proudest submission.
oh, how catty... (Score:2)
the obvious product upgrade at this point is to rename the line the Dell Attitude, and piss on ya if you don't buy the extended warranty. so you have done the cyberworld a favor in pointing this out.
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In the long run, we're all dead.
We can pretend we're something special, or we can just enjoy the ride. Here's to the ride!
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Actually, this sounds like a pretty good breakthrough... I thought someone had intentionally made a keyboard with bobcat pheromones or something in order to scare away cats and eliminate cat-like typing from keyboards everywhere.
http://cheezburger.com/4046581760 [cheezburger.com]
Patent this.
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Re:I'll level with you (Score:4, Insightful)
It's still better than a SlashBI or Slashdot TV submission.
Granted, it's a low bar.
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Macs had a similar issue not long ago (Score:5, Interesting)
It's ironic that the story would say you won't find this issue with a Mac Book air.
It wasn't too many years ago that iBooks had an issue where they would smell like body odor after the case had begun to oxidize.
We still have one. It still stinks.
I guess they were thinking most nerds wouldn't notice?
Re:Macs had a similar issue not long ago (Score:4, Funny)
Well obviously Apple patented human BO and Dell had to look elsewhere.
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It's ironic that the story would say you won't find this issue with a Mac Book air.
Not really, that seems to be a non-article related Macbook Air promotion. "The BBC is reporting that Dell's Latitude 6430u Ultrabooks have an interesting characteristic you won't find in any Macbook Air". Surprisingly the words Macbook and Apple seem to be missing from the article.
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It was a joke. The original title for the article posited that the urine smell was a thrilling new feature.
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Alright, point taken. However you were misattributing the joke. When stating that "The BBC is reporting[...]" it would be nice for the sentence to describe things that the BBC is reporting. Consider the beginning of the comment I was replying to: "It's ironic that the story would say[...]"
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Surprise! (Score:3, Funny)
"Urine" for a surprise!
Hating cats... (Score:2)
I would have blamed windows 8.1 and all the other crap they pre-install - perhaps it's the smell of crap.
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I don't know, but I would like to echo your hatred of cats.
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He's lucky I can't shoot that high.
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It smells like ammonia. Most people associate the smell of ammonia with cat piss, instead of the other way round..
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... and not been near one in years, how would you know it smells of cat's piss if you don't know what cat's piss smells of?
You don't need to like cats or have one to know what cat pee smells like, since they seem recognize people like that when looking for a garden to pee in -- and worse.
But even being lucky enough to have no idea, you'd still have said "My God, this thing smells horrible? What is that awful smell?"
Kittens don't scale (Score:2)
In clearly related news, "kittens, it was quickly discovered, do not scale" [bizjournals.com] as Kittens-on-demand, $20 for 15 minutes of snuggling, melts down.
This isn't normal? (Score:2)
I though all Dell's had that smell lately. Honestly their quality has gone way down hill....
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Well...seeing as liquid runs down hill, it only stands to reason.
Another Dell service (Score:1)
I wonder how much they'd charge to fix my cat's smell? (She's out of warranty.)
All joking aside... (Score:3)
My understanding is that chassis materials don't differ wildly from laptop to laptop (ABS or ABS+PC seem to the the typical plastics, Aluminum or coated magnesium-alloy the usual metals, with some assorted adhesives and things). Is there some plasticizer, or mould-release agent, or incomplete-polymerization impurity, or particularly malodorous-if-the-proportions-aren't-right two-part adhesive out there?
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IANA manufacturing/polymer type....
About two weeks ago I briefly fired up a carefully stored old Dell PE2650 that hadn't been run in about 8 years. It immediately smelled strongly of ammonia and I shut it down. Googling around indicates that it may be burning insolation. Some component has decayed and is creating too much heat. I'll figure it out at some point when I start caring again.
WRT these laptops, I suspect there is some bit of insulation or other, possibly excess, material in contact with or too
the malodorous is usually sulfur compounds (Score:2)
from perfume to... not... our friend sulfur is usually there.
which could lead to a side discussion, instead of snide discussions, about how well the electrothingies inside the case will fare being cooped up with the palm rest in a laptop carrier after a few years.
I'd look up sulfoxones, as an example, if my lunch break wasn't over.
cat urine & meth (Score:2)
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Ditto IANA manufacturer type, but I do have first hand experience with a plastic thing starting to smell like cat pee.
It was in the year 2012, my red nylon spatula, having a red scraper part and a black handle part, which I'd owned for a few years, suddely turned my kitchen drawer into a stinky mess. Of course I thought it was food residue, but it quickly turned out to be eminating from specifically the red "active" bit of the spatula. I tried dishwashing it away, to no avail. I sent an email to the seller,
Love the obvious bias in TFA. (Score:2)
You won't find it in a Macbook! You also won't find it in a Toshiba, Acer or an HP. But that's not the cock we are trying to suck.
I remember the yellowing iBooks/MacBooks (Score:1)
Nice "Warranty" (Score:2)
Dell staff state that the palm rest will be replaced by Dell at no cost, but only if the unit is still under warranty.
And what if the warranty expired before Dell decided to acknowledge that this defect was, in fact, a defect?
And if it's something in the manufacturing process, then the ultrabook was defective since day one, the entire time that Dell warrants it was "free of defects." So how is refusing to fix it if the clock has run out not breaching Dell's obligations under the warranty?
This is not exactly instilling confidence in Dell's products and their warranties. Sounds more like something HP would do...
This one smells of wee! (Score:1)
From the greatest sitcom ever, Father Ted [youtube.com].
Dude!... (Score:2)
...You're getting a smell!
Read some of the reviews (Score:2)
People are claiming they had to put their cats down, thinking this was due to the smell.
I smell some masterful trolling about to happen.
Oh, wait, that's this Dell in my lap.
The Cat is Still Not Trustworthy (Score:2)
Dell's taking the blame, but the cat still isn't trustworthy. First the mouse is gone, then the track pad smells like wee.
Simple fix (Score:1)
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