Intel Bay Trail Brings New Architecture and Performance To Atom 68
Vigile writes "Today at the Intel Developer Forum in San Francisco, the company officially released the Atom Z3000 series of SoCs (Bay Trail) based on the Silvermont architecture. Unlike previous Atom designs, the Z3000 and Silvermont is a completely re-architected product from the ground up and is no longer based on legacy processors. Changes include a move to an out-of-order x86 architecture with drastically improved single threaded performance but the removal of Intel's HyperThreading technology. Dual-core modules with 1MB of shared cache can be paired up to create a quad-core SoC that also includes upgraded graphics design. Intel is no longer depending on PowerVR for a GPU and has integrated a 4 EU (execution unit) Intel HD Graphics design that is very similar to the one used in Ivy Bridge. As a result, as tested at PC Perspective in both Windows 8.1 and Android 4.2.2, the Bay Trail part is as much as 4x faster in single threaded tasks and 3.5x faster in gaming and graphics. Power consumption remains nearly the same as it did with Clover Trail (Atom Z2760) but with improved power gating and support for Connected Standby, Intel's new Atom looks and feels completely different than any before it."
MojoKid notes that Intel also announced an "open" SoC architecture (where open involves you giving Intel tons of money).
Been waiting for this. (Score:2, Insightful)
This chip family is Intel's first real answer to arm SoCs. I look forward to seeing devices that feature it. Supposedly it will enable sub-100 dollar windows 8 tablets. (Well, excluding the win8 license probably. MS- You have a problem when your OS costs 2x more than the hardware itself.) - I'd love to pick up a 99 dollar tablet and see what I can do with a linux distro. I'd also love to see some ultra-small low cost SoC based boards. (Atomberry pi anyone?)
The x86 android port is supposed to be pretty damn
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Those things make atoms look like speed demons.
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According to Intel this is a complete redesign that has more in common with haswell than it does with older atoms. It's interesting to note that all Intel chips, pre haswell, have had bolt-on powersaving tech. Haswell and later chips are designed from the ground up with power management in mind.
The family has chips aimed at true mobile applications, like tablets and smartphones. It also has chips aimed at low end laptops and deskops, like the previous atom. I don't know how well they will compete with bobca
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Well then that CPU is effectively fucked, as I can tell ya that folks HATE Windows 8. Can't say as I blame 'em, I spent half the night having to hack the living shit out of Win 8 to make it into a system that was actually usable. For those that want to know how here are the steps and note that you can NOT "just add Start8 and be done", not by a long shot!
I use Win8 on my desktop. I learned to ignore charms and use start button on the keyboard. I also do not use any metro apps. That is about it.I do not see why win8 is such a big problem. I see win8-specific stuff maybe 20-30 seconds a day max. It is entertaining to see people pissed for no reason but man.. relax. Get a beer or something. We lived through XP mickey mouse interface with unremovable moviemaker. We can handle charms, apps and metro. Man up!
I see the same reaction with XP loyalists such as these in pages 2 - 15 in this article? Besides the 1st comment titled UPGRADE!! everyone is bitching and moaning on how only XP can do this only XP can do that and they site examples like show desktop doesn't exist!! It does it is that rectangle on the right. No sticky keys OMG .. uh enable them and they are there. One of them was a CIO who bashed those on modern operating systems saying he makes sure all his workplace computers are 12 years old because they
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The link is here [zdnet.com] to give you an idea on how much people just hate change.
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Nice straw man Billy, might want to watch out for matches...WHOOSH! Why are you not driving your car with bike handlebars? Bikes are the #1 vehicle, are YOU afraid of innovation? Because that is exactly how retarded you sound because a SHITTY UI IS A SHITTY UI and just for the record, time it took me to "embrace innovation" with Android? About 3 minutes. OSX? Less than 10, iOS? About 4 minutes...Win 8? THREE FUCKING HOURS LATER AND THE BITCH IS STILL FIGHT ME because "herpa de derp we think a fucking touchpad and a touchscreen are the same thing, they both say touch right? herpa derpa".
I have used everything from DOS to OS/2 to BeOS, how many OSes have YOU used Billy? I have ALWAYS been on the bleeding edge, when your ass was dragging behind on XP? I was running a beta of 2K3 stripped down into a desktop and the SECOND that XP X64 hit beta my ass was on it. I know innovation sir, I'm friends with innovation and Windows 8 is NOT innovation!
But don't take MY word for it, how about some citations? here is a good one [zdnet.com] and this shows how they cocked up even the shutdown process [zdnet.com] and reviewers agree with me its THAT bad [infoworld.com] and the OEMs also know its a turkey. [yahoo.com], Face it win 8 is a joke [youtube.com] and you can say having Ballmer take a steaming dump on your PC is "innovative" all you want Billy, its still a big pile of feces lying there.
OMG perfect! Download apps to keep track of your apps. Apps for getting apps. Apps for watching apps. Apps to launch apps. Apps to search for launching apps that launch other apps to watch other apps for all my apps to simpy get cell phone apps!
Sign me up today. I will take that Atom and my new Cryris 3 app to run inside my VMWare workstation app with emulated OpenGL/Direct X. According to www.tomshardware.com all the x87 fpu benchmarks show it can cream the hell out of AMD piledriver 8 core anyday and repr
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Isn't Intel's R&D budget greater than AMD's entire revenue?
I think they can afford to keep pushing high-end CPUs as well as low-end.
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RTA. The 4x improvement isn't an Intel claim, they are what PC Perspective observed "without intervention from Intel and without restrictions on allowed benchmarks." They ran SiSoft Sandra, CineBench, TrueCrypt, 3DMark, and a few more under Windows 8.
This looks to me to be the part that would enable the Mi
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In addition, you need to trust the benchmarkers themselves, and most of these tech sites that so often do benchmarks have conflicts of interest (advertising money, free review hardware, etc..) With this in mind I trust PassMarks online benchmark data
Good, Screw you PowerVR (Score:3, Interesting)
Hopefully, this will end any reliance on PowerVR by Intel. I dream that this is the beginning of the end for those bastards.
agreed (Score:4)
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At least GMA950 works. I would rather have that than anything PowerVR.
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They're making a nice living doing GPU cores for ARMs,
But for how long? The ARM folks are designing their own GPUs now.
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And the PowerVR folks just bought their own CPU (MIPS).
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Which competes directly with ARM and while it has some market is not exactly as big as it once was.
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Yes, at great expense and with a shrinking market share. ARM has the smartphone market cornered. So the PowerVR are losing GPU market share and they've got no chance of competing against ARM in the embedded CPU market in phones...
Maybe they have other plans?
Then one day OpenRISC will come along and ARM will start to lose out. It's already started in some very small, currently not very significant niches.
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Why are you running 64-bit Windows when all the Atom chipsets only support 2GB of RAM?
This is not true. Cedar Trail (the current gen, out for about 2 years now) supports 4GB max, which is what I have in mine.
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To the idiot with modpoints, here is another comment you can mod down. Have fun, my karma can take it.
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Just to add to what you're saying here, allow me to illustrate.
I was doing some embedded FreeBSD work on an Atom board, and it had the PowerVR GPU. The VGA text console was all scrambled. This was in 2011, it's not like VGA is all that new.
It turns out that the VGA spec itself says that data can be written to the frame buffer in half-byte words. Every VGA implementation that FreeBSD had ever encountered worked with writing VGA text console data to the frame buffer a byte at a time. Until 20[8-10] when P
OPEN SOURCE GPU DRIVERS!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
It turns out that Bay Trail has some very solid performance numbers and that the power consumption is very good too, but frankly, you can get similar results from high-end ARM SoCs.
What you can't get, however, are 100% GLPd GPU drivers that are already in the mainline Linux kernel. THANK YOU INTEL and I hope this is a wakeup call to the ARM vendors that the days of crappy, unsupported binary blobs are hopefully coming to an end.
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Hopefully we finally see some x86 android devices.
BTW your sig is stupid. If a smoker tells you not to smoke as it causes cancer do you ignore him too?
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It turns out that Bay Trail has some very solid performance numbers and that the power consumption is very good too, but frankly, you can get similar results from high-end ARM SoCs.
But will that still be true in 2014 when Intel drops to 14nm?
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Who knows? Even last year the results that Bay Trail is showing would have been considered next to impossible for an x86 part. Intel is still an underdog in mobile devices like tablets/smartphones, but it is good to see some competition.
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Does it matter?
If I can get even comparable power consumption sign me up. I am sick of this binary driver ARM bullshit.
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Well said.
I got one of the Samsung Android devices with an Intel chip on my desk the other day, and I was running native code, and didn't even notice it wasn't ARM until some obscure library wasn't opening correctly, and I tried to run objdump on it. So Intel seems to have the emulation capability, they should have no problem moving right in to the place where ARM is.
Power consumptions is "about the same"? (Score:2)
Given that Intel wants so badly to push into mobile and their biggest weakness has been the relatively high power consumption of previous Atoms compared to the incumbent Arm offerings, it seems odd that their big re-design improves performance but not power. Have they given up on the phone market?
Meanwhile, Haswell improved power consumption greatly but gives meager improvements in performance over the previous generation of Core.
So, instead of broadening to cover new markets, it looks like Intel's line i
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Should work great in netbooks. Sorry, Atom-based ultrabooks.
Windows 7 support? (Score:1)
I hate metro and the latest atoms force you to use Windows 8. The SOI is proprietary and linux and Windows 7 support are not existant.
If Intel has drivers for this one I will withdrawl my compliant
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Cool (Score:2, Troll)
Bay Trail and Windows 8.1, trailblazing a new generation of failures.
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Not really. Bay Trail can also run Android and should run Linux (unlike the last generation of Atoms with the PowerVR GPU), so it gives Intel a decently performing mobile chip that isn't reliant on Windows.
Bad comparison? (Score:1)
The Z3770 is the fastest Silvermont at 2.4 Ghz, I think they should be really comparing with the fastest Jaguar which is A6 5200 (at 2.0 Ghz), not the A4 5000 (1.5 GHz).
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The Z3770 is the fastest Silvermont at 2.4 Ghz, I think they should be really comparing with the fastest Jaguar which is A6 5200 (at 2.0 Ghz), not the A4 5000 (1.5 GHz).
So they should be comparing a 4W CPU to a 25W CPU?
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They already compare to the 4.5W Temash if you want something with equilivilant power consumption, but if you want a raw power comparison why choose the second fastest?
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is this some clever troll? or are you advertising some scam by saying that you bought one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Renault_5_TURBO_(8014525001).jpg [wikipedia.org]
Misread title as "Bay Troll" (Score:2)
I misread the title as "Intel Bay Troll Brings New Architecture and Performance To Atom", which didn't make much sense.
ATOM SMASHER! (Score:3)
OK. I fail to the the point (market) of the Atom processor. Ditto for the AMD counterpart.
The reason I say this is because of A) miniaturization and power efficiency gains in traditional processors, and B) ARM and Motorola.
I just bought an i5 Haswell on an itx format. I could have got an i7 (or an i3 for that matter). They make laptops with all of those. Power usage is way down. If looking for "cheapness" past an i3, they still over Celerons more less. AMD likewise has some cheap lower powered chips.
ARM and Motorola (A# and Snapdragon basically) own the phone/tablet market. Nothing Intel or AMD do to their lines is going to change that.
For Atom and it's AMD counterpart fall somewhere in between the very cheap low end chip, and the ARM/Motorola chips. What are you making with these chips? Shitty netbook laptops? Sorry the processor is only part of the price of these things. Not to mention the death of the netbook due to the popularity of Tablets.
Anyway I just do not see the point of this processor segment at all.