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Asus Joins High Density Display Club With New Transformer Tablet 265

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crookedvulture writes "The new iPad has received a lot of attention for its high-density display, but it's not the only tablet with extra pixels. Enter Asus' Transformer Prime Infinity, which has a 10.1" screen with a 1920x1200 resolution. The display doesn't look as good as the iPad's Retina panel, which has crisper text and better color reproduction. However, the Android-based Transformer has perks the iPad lacks, like an ultra-bright backlight, a Micro HDMI port, a microSD slot, and more internal storage. The Infinity is also compatible with an optional keyboard dock that adds six hours of battery life, a touchpad, a full-sized SD slot, and a standard USB port. The Transformer's tablet component is definitely no iPad-killer. When combined with the dock, though, the resulting hybrid offers a much more flexible computing platform."
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Asus Joins High Density Display Club With New Transformer Tablet

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  • why not have full size hdmi? you have full size USB.

    • by Kenja (541830)
      Huh? Specs show no USB, much less full sized.
      • by Hardhead_7 (987030) on Monday June 25, 2012 @07:25PM (#40446297)
        The full size USB port is on the "lapdock." Once docked, it basically has a full keyboard (better than most netbooks I've used) and a full sized usb port. With a USB to Serial adapter, I use mine to connect to Cisco switches quite often.
        • by chrylis (262281)

          What app(s) do you use for a serial terminal?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Ok. I get it. You have to compare it to the defacto tablet, the iPad. But really? The summary is more opinion with a few marks of fact about the tablet, all comparing it to what the iPad does. Just say what the damn thing stands on in its own merits and let the reviewers give opinion. The summary comes off more as a damn review than a fucking news post. I haven't even checked the fucking article, because if the summary is any indication, this is a bullshit article compared to others out there on the same th

    • by mug funky (910186) on Monday June 25, 2012 @10:03PM (#40447831)

      damn good point. my wife has an iPad, i have a netbook. she uses her iPad for her personal and business stuff 90% of the time, but 10% of the time she's swearing at the thing and grabbing the netbook from me.

      the thing that kills iPads for me is the lack of a filesystem, the lack of proper multitasking (my 13 month old is the only one of us able to correctly swipe between apps consistently), afterthought implementations of essential functions like copypaste, and in-text editing is a pain in the arse - it's quicker to retype the sentence (including backspacing over it) then to select a bit of a word and type in 2 letters.

      it's not bad for the 90%, but the 10% is not going away, no matter how much marketing is thrown at it. i'm sick to death of the Apple catch-cry of "why would anybody want to do that?" whenever confronted by a thing i do every day that their gear can't do.

  • In what circumstances does this make sense? It seems to me that when you're docking, you're going to be next to a power outlet.

    • That's simply not true. I carry my laptop around with me many times without having it plugged in, even around the house. The circumstances are when you're using it as a portable computer instead of as a tablet--emphasis on portable--and not just as a lightweight desktop workstation.

      • by sribe (304414)

        I carry my laptop around with me many times without having it plugged in, even around the house.

        So do I. Yet whenever I want to plug other stuff into it I'm near power.

        • Have you seen the Transformer? Do you know what the concept is behind it? You don't really plug much of anything else into it, except maybe headphones. What exactly do you think you're going to be plugging into it?

          In your original message, you mentioned "docking." You seem to be under the mistaken impression that "docking" the Transformer is like docking a laptop into a docking station. That is not what it is at all. You are docking the tablet part of it into a keyboard/battery part that essentially t

    • Re:battery dock??? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Hardhead_7 (987030) on Monday June 25, 2012 @07:28PM (#40446347)
      As an owner, in my experience the nice thing about the battery dock is that you don't *have* to be near an outlet. All the internals of the tablet are in the tablet itself, so the keyboard/battery dock is just that. A keyboard with a big battery. So you can juice it up overnight and drop it into your bag when you leave the next morning. For someone like me, a field engineer, that's a godsend. I never know when I'll be near an outlet. Now, admittedly, I may be a special case. But it's definitely nice for someone who's on the move quite a bit.
      • Re:battery dock??? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by aus_jackd (1141789) on Monday June 25, 2012 @09:07PM (#40447397)
        I agree with you. I absolutely love my Transformer Prime for the fact that I can charge it overnight and use it all day without having to recharge.

        I spend perhaps 3-4 days a week in my car, visiting clients and attending trade shows etc. I never have to worry about the charge on my Prime. Does email, Citrix client, word processing, spreadsheets etc.

        I also recently flew to China. On a budget airline that had no personal entertainment options, for over 10 hours. I watched several hours of TV shows during the flight. When I landed I still had more than 50% battery remaining. I stayed in several hotels with no Wifi. They had free internet over Ethernet only. A $6 USB-Ethernet adapter later and I was away. Moreover I was able to load photos from my camera directly onto the tablet through the full sized SD card slot and show them to clients/friends/family on the larger tablet screen.

        At night I just left the keyboard dock in my luggage and just carried the tablet around. Visited a cafe or a bar, read a novel, surf on free WiFi. No recharging needed because during the day I had depleted the keyboard battery and not the tablet battery.

        There are many reasons one would choose this form factor. I love it.
    • by mug funky (910186)

      it makes sense when you're out and about and want to use the keyboard attachment - click the tablet into the keyboard, and suddenly you have an extra 8 hours of battery.

      • by sribe (304414)

        it makes sense when you're out and about and want to use the keyboard attachment - click the tablet into the keyboard, and suddenly you have an extra 8 hours of battery.

        Yeah, battery + keyboard I can see for on-the-go use. The rest of the dock features, not so much...

  • by humanrev (2606607) on Monday June 25, 2012 @07:21PM (#40446241)

    The Transformer's tablet component is definitely no iPad-killer.

    What's this obsession in the media with regards to consumer tech (phones, tablets, portable music players) in which products different to the current market leader are qualified as to whether or not that are a -killer? In the case of tablets, the iPad has its strength and weaknesses, and although it seems like a good all-round device it's not for everyone. Some people want more ports, more expandability, something a bit more like a portable computer than a portable appliance (which the iPad is marketed as). In this case it doesn't need to "kill" the market leader - it just has to offer something different that people want. In this way, we have choice.

    Now of course it will be compared to the iPad, but what's this obsession that if you're not the market leader, you're not worth buying? If that were the case there'd be no market for Android phones, or even WM7 phones. Is there perhaps some deep-seated personal feeling that if you don't buy number one, you're by extension not a winner and instead a second-class individual? Or is it just the apps?

    • by feepness (543479)

      Now of course it will be compared to the iPad, but what's this obsession that if you're not the market leader, you're not worth buying? If that were the case there'd be no market for Android phones, or even WM7 phones.

      Actually, looking at phones, Android is the market leader.

      • by humanrev (2606607)

        Perhaps, but as far as what media and marketing use when they want to use a picture of a smartphone, they'll use an iPhone. It's also safe money that if you pick a random group of smartphone users, at least half will have an iPhone. I say this as a (reasonably) happy Galaxy S2 user. I think I've seen one person so far use a WM7 phone.

  • Transformer (Score:5, Funny)

    by arcite (661011) on Monday June 25, 2012 @07:23PM (#40446275)
    Clearly, its more than meets the eye.
  • by spongman (182339) on Monday June 25, 2012 @07:27PM (#40446315)

    finally the 16:9 fad is over. maybe soon i'll be able to replace my 15" WUXGA D830...

    • I tore apart my WUXGA D830 with nvidia graphics apart with my bare hands....damn thing always overheated and one day I had had enough.
      • by spongman (182339)

        sorry to hear that. i had the same thing happen to me a while back. i took it apart and cleaned out the heatsync and it was as good as new...

        i have replaced the motherboard since then, though. i'd love to get a new machine, but I can't bare to lose the WUXGA :(

  • Halfway there. (Score:2, Interesting)

    Not enough. I've seen properly produced printed content on The New iPad(tm) and it's like I'm holding a [slightly small] magazine page in my hand. Highly detailed images, razor sharp text. I've been hearing about 2560x1600 10.1" displays from Samsung for over a year and 11.6" for about half a year. 1920x1080 is a real let-down for Android after seeing The New iPad(tm).

    • by locopuyo (1433631)
      Yeah the resolution is great but I wouldn't go far as to say it is like holding a magazine page. The color gamut and contrast aren't there yet.
    • by xigxag (167441)

      You're calling it a "real let-down" before even glancing at it. The new iPad only has 28% greater pixel density on the short axis and 7% on the long one. In other words, the TF700 has 27% fewer pixels overall. The difference is probably noticeable for someone with sharp vision, but not huge. In fact, the TF700 has almost the same (slightly more) pixel density as the new "retina" MacBook Pro. So it could share the "retina" moniker were it not trademarked for Apple machines.

  • I'd like a tablet about the size of a piece of paper or legal pad. Build this in a 13" size (7.8" x 10.4") and I might just buy it!
  • Backlight (Score:4, Informative)

    by philj (13777) on Monday June 25, 2012 @08:09PM (#40446897)
    "However, the Android-based Transformer has perks the iPad lacks, like an ultra-bright backlight" The iPad 3 backlight is very bright. I doubt you could make a brighter display without having a negative affect.
    • by Swampash (1131503)

      I've never run my iPad brightness higher than about 60 percent because I want to retain the ability to see. That shit is BRIGHT.

    • by Solandri (704621)
      A comfortable setting for backlight brightness depends on the ambient lighting. A moderate setting for indoor use is woefully inadequate in sunlight. And a setting which is moderately usable in sunlight will be blinding indoors. In that respect, you cannot have a backlight which is "too bright" unless it's brighter than sunlight. In other lighting, you can simply turn it down.

      i.e. Don't think of backlight brightness as "how bright is the screen". Think of it as "How wide a variety of lighting condit
    • The iPad 3 backlight is very bright. I doubt you could make a brighter display without having a negative affect.

      Congratulations. You've just admitted you've never been outside.

  • If something's good, tell me it's good. If something's bad, tell me it's bad. Stop trying to be balanced. I'm fucking sick of reviews in the form this thing is amazing... but it's really not that good.

  • It's the tablet I've been waiting for. Somebody inherits my trusty Xoom.

    • ...well, at least I thought that until I found there's no USB port on the tablet itself. The Xoom will do just fine for now and I'll just keep my wallet shut.

  • Does it (a) cost substantially more (b) take up significantly more space (c) drain battery life to use notebook SO-DIMMs?

    I'd be nice to have a touchscreen ARM laptop running desktop Linux that doubles as an Android tablet but 1GB for an ultra portable laptop is so 2004!

    • by symbolset (646467) *
      Yes to a, b and c. You can't even fit a sodimm in a modern tablet, let alone the connector. Generally speaking DRAM requires continuous electrical refresh, and that burns battery. 1GB is actually immense for a portable Linux, so it should be fine.
  • by TuringTest (533084) on Tuesday June 26, 2012 @05:18AM (#40450151) Journal

    The form factor is perfect, the price seems about right, but they offer no mobile connectivity. This is a deal breaker is I want it precisely for browsing during the commute as a tablet, with the added flexibility of the keyboard and extra battery everywhere else.

    Unfortunately ASUS has been reluctant to offer 3G connectivity in all the Transformer line, first announcing that it wouldn't be a 3G version and later offering it delayed after several months. Come on guys, the high-end line should come with 3G from the beginning.

    • by CAIMLAS (41445)

      By mentioning your commute, I can assume you're talking about public transit. Do you not have a cell phone? Put it in tethering mode and use the wifi on the tablet. I do this regularly.

      Typically, however, anywhere you'd want to sit down and use a device these days is going to have wifi available. Not always, but usually.

      In those corner cases where this doesn't hold true, it makes much more sense to use a tethered phone with a data plan or a $15 USB 3g modem than to have it integrated into the device. 3G onl

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