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Official Details For the DARPA Robotics Challenge 61

Posted by Soulskill
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An anonymous reader writes "The DARPA Robotics Challenge is offering tens of million of dollars in funding to teams from anywhere in the world to build robots capable of performing complex mobility and manipulation tasks such as walking over rubble and operating power tools. It all will culminate in an audacious competition with robots driving trucks, breaking through walls, and attempting to perform repairs in a simulated industrial-disaster setting. The winner takes all: a $2 million cash prize."
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Official Details For the DARPA Robotics Challenge

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  • DARPA is awesome (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    No other government agency inspires me like DARPA does.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    The things Boston Dynamics are already putting together give me nightmares. I'm pretty sure the only reason they don't use the name Cyberdyne Systems is because someone from the future came back and told them not to...
  • A robot that does anything like that is going to cost more than 2 million.
    • by na1led (1030470)
      Yea, I'm sure it will be worth lots more than the $2 million that DARPA is going to give.
      • Re:That's it? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by jandrese (485) <kensama@vt.edu> on Tuesday April 10, 2012 @02:51PM (#39635147) Homepage Journal
        $2 million gets added to your R&D budget on this adventurous robotics project that you can then sell to governments all over the world (or at least the US, since this is DARPA).
        • Hell, we don't need the government for adventurous, useless robotic machines.

          Purdue University runs a contest every year [wired.com].

        • You give unlimited rights to DARPA (and the US govt), by participating in this contest. I am pretty sure the US govt would be willing to pay a lot more if you were to sell robots that perform these tasks.

          • by jandrese (485)
            DARPA doesn't manufacture anything though. They might hand off the designs to another contractor like GD or something, but I'd be willing to bet that if it was good and you offered it for sale, then the government would come buying. The fact that the government has unlimited rights to the design might even be seen as a plus in the procurement office.

            There is a danger they would hand the plans off to a different contractor to have them build it, but I think you could make the case that your company woul
        • by Anonymous Coward

          Per the PDF at the bottom of https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=ee8e770bcfe1fe217472342c67d6bd5a&tab=core&_cview=0

          "DARPA desires Unlimited Rights, as defined in DFARS 252.227-7013 and
          -7014,12 to all deliverables generated by the DARPA Robotics Challenge performer under this
          effort except clearly-identified, widely-available, commercial software tools, with their
          commercial availability described and substantiated in the proposal."

          "2.4 Intellectual Property {1}
          Per section VIII

          • by iamwahoo2 (594922)

            These are the same rules that generally apply with all government research. Unlimited rights does not mean that they own the copyrights, patents, etc.. It just means that they can take your data to use it internally for there own purposes. One reason for this is that there are a lot of small companies that can't build up the manufacturing capability to meet the demands of the government. Just FYI, there are a few very very rich defense companies that have managed to do just fine with these same rules.

    • by Jeng (926980)

      That 2 million is more of a performance bonus rather than a contract.

  • robots driving trucks, breaking through walls, and attempting to perform repairs in a simulated industrial-disaster setting.

    I think I saw all that in 1984 [imdb.com].

  • Immenant Disaster... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Missing.Matter (1845576) on Tuesday April 10, 2012 @02:57PM (#39635209)

    This is classic DARPA... while these grand challenges are good for focusing research initiatives, they tend to ask for much more than the field can offer in a reasonable amount of time given the funds. Look at the first grand challenge: not a single team finished the race, and even the best team from the best school with the most funding only finished 12km of the proposed 240km course.

    It was an utter embarrassment. Only after they relaxed the requirements in 2005 of the competition to more accurately reflect what was humanly (or more aptly roboticly) possible at the time was the competition a success.

    Now they're expecting a full-on humanoid that can drive a car, bust down walls, move rubble, operate tools, all in unstructured environments? Look at the DARPA ARM grand challenge, where the state of the art could barely do these kinds of manipulations in a controlled well-lit laboratory.

    On the other hand, I suppose if they're allowing teleoperation/assisted autonomy that makes things a lot easier. I guess I just don't want a repeat of the collective embarrassment of the robotics community that happened in 2004.

    • RTFM - the robot does not have to be humanoid, it simply needs to be compatible with human tools.

      • Did you RTFA? The competition will involve much more than that: it needs to drive a vehicle, including entering it, using all the controls as-is, and exiting the vehicle; it needs to climb ladders and traverse grated catwalks; it needs to use tools made specifically for humans; it needs to traverse several types of terrain, including moving over rubble and then move said rubble.... exactly what kind of robot would you propose that can do all that?

        If it is not a humanoid it is going to be highly engineered

        • I did read part of the FM :) My comment wasn't intended to suggest that any robot of non-humanoid shape would meet the requirements, just that humanoid shape isn't a requirement - only the illustration.

          You are correct - the requirements are stiff. Many of the challenges lend themselves better to a multi-legged chassis with manipulators that can handle tools. The human form is tricky for a number of reasons, odd center of gravity, etc. that are more suited to biological form than a machine. This looks lik

        • by savuporo (658486)
          http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hrp+promet [youtube.com]
          http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dlr+justin [youtube.com]

          The ask is not unreasonable at all. Just requires focus, and investment. Prizes generally generate much more research dollars put into the thing than the prize value, so it's a super good investment.
      • by Jeng (926980)

        And compatible with a drivers seat in a vehicle that has not been modified to accept the robot.

        It will need a fairly human shape to fit in the drivers seat, it will need fairly human upper limbs to use the controls and fairly human legs to operate the pedals.

    • by na1led (1030470)
      DARPA wants the Terminator, instead they get Furby!
    • by ciantic (626550) on Tuesday April 10, 2012 @03:34PM (#39635649)
      From the IEEE-Article: "What’s more, the early reports incorrectly asserted that, because the challenge seems so difficult, teams were not expected to succeed the first time around. This is not the case, Pratt said. 'The challenge will be adjusted as we get experience with the teams over this first phase,' he said. 'What we’re going to make sure is that the challenge is difficult but not impossible.'"
    • I guess I just don't want a repeat of the collective embarrassment of the robotics community that happened in 2004.

      Yes, the 2004 Grand Challenge was a disaster. I was there to watch. In the 2005 Grand Challenge, all 23 teams that made it to the California Motor Speedway had better systems than anyone had in 2004. I had a team there. Yes, the course in 2005 was easier, but some of the vehicles there could have completed the 2004 course.

      I don't think the humanoid challenge will succeed on the first try, either, since the schedule is so tight. The first trial with real robots is only 15 months away. By try 2 or 3, tho

    • by steveg (55825)

      Relaxed the requirements how? As I recall the second year course was more difficult than the first one.

  • Me!

    1. Execute complex tasks in dangerous, degraded, human-engineered environments." Check! (I assume Detroit counts.)

    2. Supervised autonomy. Check!

    3. Mounted mobility, dismounted mobility . Check!

    4. Dexterity, strength, and platform endurance. Check!

    Does an ACL reconstruction count as "robotic"?
  • by simonbp (412489) on Tuesday April 10, 2012 @03:22PM (#39635517) Homepage

    ...have to yell "OH YEAH"! and be red...

  • The winner will have the privilege of knowing he/she was responsible for indirectly enslaving everyone he/she ever loved. Laws of unintended consequences, folks. Think about it, these contests are not underwritten by the CareBears. This is the US Department of Defense. Remember those pesky drones we built to help us with foreign wars? Our chickens are coming home to roost -- almost literally.
    • by poity (465672)

      Slashdot, where yesterday's technophiles become today's luddites.

  • . . . and the Defense Department will pay you more than $2 million.

    . . . Israel is rumored to be acquiring large amounts of clay and letters on parchment for a similar project appropriately code named as "Golem."

    . . . and North Korea's missile launch will be foiled, when a Mechagodzilla springs out of the ocean and steals the missile, after emitting consuming a giant jar of Kimchi and flatulating the audience.

  • what will the world's millions of taxi drivers do? turn into luddites, perhaps, attacking robot cars with lug wrenches?

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