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Graphics Be Open Source Software Upgrades X Hardware BSD Linux

Linux Support Fades For 3Dfx Voodoo, Rage 128, VIA 330

An anonymous reader writes "The developers behind the Mesa 3D graphics library, which provides the default graphics driver support for most hardware on Linux (and BSD/Solaris), has ended their support for older hardware. Being removed from Mesa (and therefore versions of Linux distributions) is support for hardware like the 3Dfx Voodoo, Intel i810, ATI Rage, and S3 Savage graphics processors. Also drivers being dropped were for Matrox and VIA graphics. Mesa developers also decided it's time to end support for the BeOS operating system. Dropping this code lowered the developers' responsibility by some 100k L.O.C., so maybe we will see GL3 support and OpenCL in Linux a bit sooner."
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Linux Support Fades For 3Dfx Voodoo, Rage 128, VIA

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  • by Sarten-X ( 1102295 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @12:06PM (#37227924) Homepage

    I agree, but I'd love to see someone (with time, experience, and more knowledge than I) take it a step further: A Linux distro to work on ancient machines, with the latest feasible versions of software.

    When I volunteered in Africa in 2009, one of my projects was to set up a computer lab, populated with donated machines. These computers were old. The newest one was manufactured in 2003. The oldest was 1997. I ended up installing Ubuntu and Edubuntu, then stripped down the core as much as I could while still keeping things clean. The machines still take several minutes to boot fully.

    What I'd love would be a distro designed for just such situations. On install, it would determine what kind of hardware you have available, and only install things that will work well. Support for really old hardware would be patched in for the distro, probably with only major bugs receiving repair attention. If a package isn't likely to run well on your system, it will alert you before installing.

  • Re:...And? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hedwards ( 940851 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @12:25PM (#37228038)

    Because if it hasn't been changed in 7 years, then chances are that nobody really knows the code. Consequently nobody is checking it nor is anybody likely to be paying attention to any breakage which might occur if they change the infrastructure and ultimately it's one more area in which a security vulnerability could pop into existence when somebody changes some other code.

    Having essentially dead code in a project isn't a wise idea in most cases. But beyond that it's extra bandwidth that's not necessary for nearly everybody.

  • by Sarten-X ( 1102295 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @12:29PM (#37228072) Homepage

    My home server, built in 1999, runs at a maximum of 80W. That means it takes 2 kW (about $0.20) per day, at most. For about $500 I could build a machine [kampmeier.com] that draws 20W, for a monetary savings of about $0.15 per day. In about 10 years, I could break even on what I spent on the new server, but by then, the hardware would be 10 years old again. What I have serves my purposes.

  • by Culture20 ( 968837 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @12:43PM (#37228154)

    Code that was mostly unmaintained and didn't receive new feature support work in years.

    Code that works doesn't need new features.

  • Re:...And? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jimicus ( 737525 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @01:05PM (#37228292)

    Say we want to further add some animation support to the video renderer for use on the OSD, that code needs to be written for each of Xshm, Xv, OpenGL, VDPAU, VAAPI, XvMC, and PVR-350 framebuffer output. In addition, that's primarily the work of one single guy.

    And people wonder why some F/OSS projects have a slow rate of development.

  • Re:...And? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by kylemonger ( 686302 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @02:22PM (#37228698)

    Explain to me why Win2k with Opera 10.5 would be insufficient to browse the web?

    It would become part of a botnet within hours, that's why. Once your OS and web browser stop getting security updates, the clock starts ticking on the bad guys finding some unpatched vulnerability and your wandering into some trap they've set for you on the net.

  • by Plombo ( 1914028 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @02:50PM (#37228830)
    There's no need for a fork. If anyone shows an interest in making one of the old drivers compatible with the current driver interface (there were some recent driver API changes in texture mapping) and maintain it, then it will be added back to the Mesa tree as long as it's maintained and doesn't stay broken.
  • by DrXym ( 126579 ) on Saturday August 27, 2011 @02:54PM (#37228858)

    Code that works doesn't need new features.

    Code that worked a few years ago is bitrotten now when the rest of the codebase has received numerous other modifications.

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