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AMD Opens Israeli R&D Center, Hints At ARM Link 95

Posted by timothy
from the beautiful-sunny-tel-aviv dept.
siliconbits writes "We've learnt that AMD will open a new research and development center in Israel in the Tel-Aviv area, one which will be built around Graphic Remedy, the small startup they purchased in September 2010 and which specialises in development tools for heterogeneous computing and 3D graphics. Although the chip company hasn't published any press releases yet, the news is a clear indication that AMD sees its future (and its survival) in a more fragmented market where x86 is no longer the dominating platform."
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AMD Opens Israeli R&D Center, Hints At ARM Link

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  • by GameboyRMH (1153867) <gameboyrmh@gmaiWELTYl.com minus author> on Thursday June 02, 2011 @01:06PM (#36322764) Journal

    Now Israel will be providing ARMs to the US for a change!

  • by Reverand Dave (1959652) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @01:22PM (#36322964)
    I worked in a semiconductor fab for a long time and we used AMAT SEM machines that were manufactured in israel. The direct factory reps were all israeli as well. A lot of people think of israel as this war-torn middle east wasteland but that's just not the case. It's a very wealthy and prosperous country, even if they are expanding and displacing the native populace. They are bringing a lot of non-oil money into the region.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      If they are so wealthy, why are the US blowing billions every year up their arse?
      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Nadaka (224565)

        Because the restoration of the Jewish state of Israel is a prerequisite for the biblical apocalypse. And propping up Israel plays into the fevered dreams of the omnicidal fundamentalist christian death cult that makes up a significant minority of the the American voting public.

        • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

          Because the restoration of the Jewish state of Israel is a prerequisite for the biblical apocalypse. And propping up Israel plays into the fevered dreams of the omnicidal fundamentalist christian death cult that makes up a significant majority of the the American voting public.

          There fixed that for you.

          • Nope. The real death cult crazies are a minority as Nadaka said. But they work together with the abortion crazies and the gay crazies and the evolution crazies and the global warming crazies and the gun crazies and so on and so on and so on. For any of these groups to point out how crazy another is would bring about their own downfall, so they play together nicely.

            It's not an insignificant minority, but it's nowhere near a majority.

            • At what point does one move from sleeping with the enemy to actually one of being them?
              • I don't think any of those right-wing groups considers the others an enemy. They're driven by different agendas which don't necessarily conflict (thought they do conflict with their crazy counterparts on the left). On the contrary, they all contributed to the redefining of "liberal" as a bad word which they use to distract from their own radical message. And as the saying goes: "the enemy of my enemy...".

                Jesus won't take away your guns (when he brings the world to a fiery end), but those PETA commie bast

      • US aid to Israel is mostly spent in the US. Think of it as indirect job-creation money, just like most of the defense budget.
        • by h4rr4r (612664)

          That does not create job anymore than breaking windows. If you really want most bang for your buck, just give the money directly to poor folks. They will spend it instantly.

          • You don't seem to understand Israel or the broken window fallacy.

            Israel has real enemies who have been trying to invade them since independence. They will develop those arms, regardless of US support. This isn't wasteful spending, it's actually less wasteful than if they had to perform the R&D themselves, rather than purchase already-developed American goods. The US isn't encouraging Israel to buy stuff it wouldn't otherwise tax its citizens to obtain.

            Argue about whether or not the US should support

          • by superwiz (655733)
            There is a difference between spending to increase consumption and spending to increase expertise. Cutting edge military spending produces research which finds civilian uses later on.
      • by superwiz (655733)
        US "foreign aid" to Israel is less than 5% of Israel's govt budget (not of GDP, but of govt budget!!!). Most of it consists of contractual obligations which were established as a result of the peace agreement negotiated by Carter. It might take some searching, but you can find the English version of their budget online. I did this during one of these exchanges a few years back.
    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I don't think anyone thinks of Israel a Middle Eastern wasteland. They think of it as a self-perpetuating military enterprise. The high-tech industry in Israel has formed as an addendum to the that military industry. All those missiles and guidance systems need microchips and IT support you know.

      • Yeah right. Just like your mom's cooking is a byproduct of the need to feed US army. All those marines and pilots need to eat you know.
    • I worked in a semiconductor fab for a long time and we used AMAT SEM machines that were manufactured in israel. The direct factory reps were all israeli as well. A lot of people think of israel as this war-torn middle east wasteland but that's just not the case. It's a very wealthy and prosperous country, even if they are expanding and displacing the native populace. They are bringing a lot of non-oil money into the region.

      Don't forget, the reason that the French tried to block Israel's acceptance to CERN was to protect French tenders. It was nothing political, only business.

    • It's not like they have any choice: Israel has neither natural resources nor appreciable arable land, apart from the one that was "stolen" from the desert and the marshlands. In such situation they had to rely on their most obvious resource - human creativity.

    • by tyrione (134248)

      I worked in a semiconductor fab for a long time and we used AMAT SEM machines that were manufactured in israel. The direct factory reps were all israeli as well. A lot of people think of israel as this war-torn middle east wasteland but that's just not the case. It's a very wealthy and prosperous country, even if they are expanding and displacing the native populace. They are bringing a lot of non-oil money into the region.

      There wealth is directly tied to the US subsidies and US Corporations who expanded overseas to avoid a 35% tax owed back in the States.

  • by TheRaven64 (641858) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @02:08PM (#36323544) Journal
    Both AMD and ARM are pushing OpenCL in their GPUs. AMD is betting heavily on GPGPU, ARM has always been interested in offloading work to DSPs and suchlike in SoCs. This is nothing to do with AMD designing ARM chips in a post-x86 future, it's about both AMD and ARM emphasising GPU power over CPU power. AMD, because their GPUs are much faster than Intel's, and ARM because Atom (which loses quite badly on performance per Watt already) has no advantage over an ARM core in terms of raw performance if anything CPU-intensive is being offloaded to the GPU.
  • by slasho81 (455509) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @02:47PM (#36324038)
    This explains the recruiting frenzy that Intel Israel has been in for last few weeks. They're drying up the employee market.
  • I have always said that it is all about Intel Xeon processors in commodity servers and that AMD was a passing fad. It looks like AMD finally agreed and has implicitly conceded the market to Intel.

  • as long as they don't have a factory on occupied land

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