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OLPC Downsizes Half of Its Staff, Cuts Sugar 379

One Laptop Per Chewbacca writes "Nicholas Negroponte, the leader of the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) project, has announced that the organization will be laying off half of its staff, cutting salaries of the remaining employees, and ending its involvement in Sugar development. The organization has had serious problems with production and deployment and has been fragmented by ideological debates as Negroponte shifts the agenda away from software freedom and towards Windows. Ars Technica concludes: 'The OLPC project's extreme dependence on economy of scale has proven to be a fatal error. The organization was not able to secure the large bulk orders that it had originally anticipated and fell short of meeting its target $100 per unit price. The worldwide economic slowdown has made it even more difficult for OLPC to find developing countries that have cash to spare on education technology.'"
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OLPC Downsizes Half of Its Staff, Cuts Sugar

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  • Re:Figures. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eln ( 21727 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:12PM (#26365133)

    Its just a bad time overall.

    I think their business plan was fundamentally flawed, and deciding to go with Windows (meaning extra cost) when they were having trouble getting down to the price point they wanted even without it was just the final nail in the coffin.

    They, like many other companies these days, are using the poor economy as a convenient excuse for dumping salary, but they were likely doomed anyway.

  • In other news ... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by vlad_petric ( 94134 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:24PM (#26365331) Homepage

    A 200$ netbook [zdnet.com] is coming soon and it will run Ubuntu.

    And yeah, 200$ not 400$ via "buy two donate one".

  • by jlarocco ( 851450 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:29PM (#26365393) Homepage

    That doesn't make sense. Unless the OLPC hardware and software were being made by the people in the countries buying them, they would be consumers no matter what OS was preinstalled. 99.99% of open source developers are in first world countries, so that wouldn't really tip the balance.

    If the OLPC project were really serious about using open source software to help the third world, it would start hiring some of the people there to work on open source projects.

  • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:35PM (#26365467) Journal

    Normally I'd complain that you haven't read the grand parent post, I find your reply astounding. You make only reference to his ego and incompetence and then explain that ayaw as him being an academic. You made no mention of business at all. In other words, you have a hugh chip just sitting there...

  • by Ohio Calvinist ( 895750 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:47PM (#26365613)
    I've always thought the problem with the OLPC project was that it developed a product for very young children, when computer literacy is a afterthought for early primary students in the developed world (at least in the US) and in contries where classrooms may not have books or basic utilities, having computers for these kids is simply not worth the cost, and for older children the platform is severely lacking what a "normal" computer is capable of.

    From spending time with teachers in early primary ed, non-computer alternatives such as the Leap Pad is specifically designed to teach children to read or do math and are very easy to "plug" into the state cirriculm. When students do go to the computer lab, they either need to buy specialized software, which is expensive to teach them the cirriculm, or just have the kids goof off in MS paint or playing web-games (which is not entirely bad, but less important and effective than other teaching methods). When you can't read and can't do subtraction, being able to draw pictures on a computer is very low on the list of priorities. Because of this, it makes me think the OLPC product out of the box isn't going to be sufficent for real learning, in particular where web access is non-existent or slow/hap-hazard or not in the native language; particularly for young children whom the project seems to be aimed at.

    I think the project would have done much more good by producting computers with a standard Linux desktop, OO.org, Firefox, etc... (maybe toned-down versions to run on less RAM/HD space) and marketed them to middle-and-high school age students, particularly those academic performance would make them able to potentially go to university or have a "office job". When I see employees and students (when I am teaching) who can barely use OO.org because they "learned on Word" or can't find their files "on a PC because I have a Mac", it leads me to believe having the Sugar UI, as neat as it is, makes it so different from a computer they'll use in higher-ed or in the workplace that what they are learning isn't going to be nearly as effective. If Windows is the only way to turn an OLPC into a "normal" computer then it seems worth it, even though I'd rather see it loaded with OSS to save the schools money and give them exposure to Linux which is becoming a very popular desktop OS in the developing world in particular. I know some will say "keep it Sugar and let them dump Linux on it", but can you imagine what it would take to re-configure thousands of these machines, let alone creating an install that meets its hardware available? It would be cheaper to buy the machines preloaded with Windows versus all that effort, particularly if MS is practically giving it away. Sometimes ideology is only worth so much when you're strapped to make it happen.

    $100 for a machine that is a glorified chat client when the participants are in the same room or an electronic coloring book seems very wasteful when you think of how many crayons, texts, papers and pens that machine is worth to the poorest of poor students. $100 for a real computer to teach college bound students how to be successful and familar with the workplaces requirements, seems like a deal, so long as it is implemented wisely and at a time in the students development where it is going to be worth it. It feels like giving an OLPC to a kid before 4th grade is like giving a violin to a baby.
  • by Capt.DrumkenBum ( 1173011 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:50PM (#26365649)
    You are right. I have said since the beginning that they should sell off th OLPC at $250, and use the profits to offset the costs of machines going to third world countries. They could even have gotten rid of the special power supply for the versions sold in North America and Europe. Saved a couple of more $ per unit.

    That said, I think we all owe the a debt of gratitude for showing others that there was and still is demand for a small, cheep, low power laptop.
  • Competitors (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PCM2 ( 4486 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @07:51PM (#26365671) Homepage

    The OLPC is a noble idea, but I think Negroponte has underestimed the the will of its competitors to ensure OLPC doesn't take hold to give them a clear advantage.

    Actually, very few people seem to even understand Negroponte's real idea. The OLPC had no competitors. It was an education project, not a product. It was never about selling a novel hardware device; that was just a means to an end. Unfortunately, there had never been a similar project to set a precedent, so the press and analysts could only view it in terms that they understood: the terms of the U.S. consumer technology industry. As such, it looked as if the OLPC would have to "compete" with cheapie laptops from Intel, Asus, or whomever, despite the fact that none of these later offerings really had the same goals as the OLPC. I think far more damning to the OLPC was the fact that when it shipped it couldn't actually deliver on the project's goals. When you're asking a government to spend a few million dollars on mass orders of a piece of technology, "someday this will set you free" doesn't sound half as good as "turn it on and it runs Windows."

  • by grcumb ( 781340 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @08:08PM (#26365893) Homepage Journal

    You're giving Intel and Microsoft way too much credit. It was ASUS that destroyed the OLPC, by creating the netbook market when it released the first Eee PC.

    I'm not so sure about that. I think the OLPC failed for political, not economic reasons. The lobbying efforts of both Microsoft and Intel did have some influence on the outcome, but more and more these days I get the feeling that the biggest reason was sheer ineptitude among the project's organisers.

    Let's break these points out a little:

    The OLPC pricing model was contingent on economies of scale, and the only parties with enough money to bring to the table were national governments. That logic is sound, as far as it goes. But Negroponte and co. completely ignored just how hard it is to build political will, especially where new, iconoclastic ideas are concerned.

    Politicians, especially in developing countries, live from one day to the next. In many cases, their only mandate is to accumulate as much wealth as they can before their government falls, or they fall out of favour. OLPC holds no benefit for them whatsoever.

    Those politicians who are competent (and who consider that governing is actually part of the job description) need to have some degree of confidence that what they're proposing isn't going to blow up in their face and leave them looking like fools. As far as I can tell, Negroponte's negotiators relied only on their own stature and authority within the geek world to reassure them. That was - how shall I say? - a little presumptuous.

    One example: I have been working in the developing world for a while. In the course of it, I've developed a few very valuable contacts in certain countries in the region where I work. When I was informed that OLPC wanted to roll out in one of them, I was very enthusiastic. This particular country was perfectly suited for such a project: The population isn't too big, the current government is genuinely committed to development, and they've just come into a sizeable chunk of money from newly developed petroleum deposits.

    I happened to have contacts at the very core of this particular government. It's not inconceivable that I could have arranged a few very useful conversations. So I wrote to the envoy OLPC had sent, and offered to help.

    No reply.

    I waited a few weeks more, and tried again. No reply.

    After three separate tries, I worked the back channel and was informed by a rather embarrassed individual that the OLPC envoy thought I might cramp his style, so without even checking whether his fears were justified, he cut me cold.

    In contrast to this amateurish approach, Microsoft and Intel spend a good deal of time and money building alliances within various governments. They come across as reasonable and fair, often negotiating steeply discounted licensing schemes, and bestowing a good deal of largesse while they're at it.

    They're ruthless competitors, that's true, but they don't walk around with blood dripping from their fangs. When you meet with them, they're attentive, caring and sympathetic to your situation. Their job, after all, is to sell more product, and to ensure that nobody else's products look like a reasonable alternative.

    Contrast that with some guy appearing from nowhere, expecting to be treated like someone important simply because the letters M-I-T follow their name, and who haven't really a clue about how to effectively navigate the corridors of power. Guess who wins?

    Last point: Asus isn't competing with the OLPC. They're building a consumer device and using retail channels to deliver it. They'll sell them in numbers, I don't doubt, but the plain fact is that the devices are not nearly as appropriate for use in rural areas as the OLPC is.

    In fairness to OLPC, they're victims as much of being original as anything else. But their strategy is failing because of implementation, not design.

  • Re:Be Warned (Score:2, Interesting)

    by poot_rootbeer ( 188613 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @08:39PM (#26366281)

    I get the feeling OLPC is a bunch of well-intentioned, high-level talking heads.

    Of course it is; Nicholas Negroponte is at the helm. He's a man who has never let concerns of pragmatism color his ideas.

    The XO-1 project had some really brilliant people working on it, but by now it seems they've all left or been forced out. A shame.

  • Re:In other news ... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by anothy ( 83176 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @08:56PM (#26366483) Homepage
    you're right overall, but this particular comparison brings up the one technical point about the XO i never really understood: why x86? in terms of watt/performance, ARM does much better, it's cheap, and is a common enough architecture that anything learned on it would be transferable to lots of other places.

    i hate to say it, but it makes me wonder if Negroponte had windows in mind all along.
  • by grumbel ( 592662 ) <grumbel+slashdot@gmail.com> on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @09:10PM (#26366617) Homepage

    Was it the price... no. Was it the specs... no.

    I disagree, a XO-1 used to cost almost half of what a Eee sold for, it also has plenty of unique features (rotatable screen, sunlight readability, etc.). The OLPC doesn't completly blow the competition out of the water, but it still has plenty of features that no one else has. Now of course the whole uniqueness of the OLPC never really mattered since the OLPC never entered the marketplace in the first place. G1G1 never was competitive in terms of price and was time limited (fixed now) and never made it to Europe (still not fixed).

  • by westlake ( 615356 ) on Wednesday January 07, 2009 @09:41PM (#26366925)
    When they decided to support Windows, that killed the only positive point I could see in it. They would be kept as consumers.

    This is the geek way of thinking and it is fundamentally flawed.

    The Linux OLPC never sold in the numbers that were predicted - never even approached the numbers that were predicted.

    The third world education minister shops for the PC that promises nothing more than a smooth transition for kids who will go on the higher grades or vocational education.

    That is the best chance he can give them.

    OLPC could have chosen to work with Apple or Microsoft from the start. There is nothing inherently absurd about working with a strong financial partner and one which has close on to thirty years practical experience in the market you are about to enter.

    OLPC tied itself to a constructivist philosophy of education that is some light years removed from the realities of a third world classroom ---

    and it never missed an opportunity to re-invent the wheel.

  • by XMode ( 252740 ) on Thursday January 08, 2009 @01:45AM (#26368599)

    I'm not so sure they did. I think OLPC did a fine job of killing themselves.. I _TRIED_ to get one when I first heard about it. I thought it would be neet to have one and figured they would be readily available to anyone that wanted one, after all, mass production was the key..

    This was before they had even produced one. So I waited.. Then they came up with the G1G1 idea. I didn't mind having to pay for 2. At $100 a pop, its not such a bad thing.

    Then the price was revised. Not $100 each, $300 for the pair.. So that was AU$600+ for me.. Getting a little high for a novelty.. But I thought at least i'll be giving one to some needy kids.. Then I was told I could get one because i was outside the US.. WTF?!

    Then they stuck XP on it and I gave up.. By then the eeepc had come out locally and the 10" one was only a few months off.. So now I have a much better machine for around AU$100 less than OLPC wanted to charge me.. Sure, some snotty nosed little brat in some far off land cant sell the one he missed out on for smack.. And I didn't have to jump through any stupid hoops.

  • by Teriblows ( 1138203 ) on Thursday January 08, 2009 @02:48AM (#26368931)
    no, what was elitist was the entire concept. money that could have been spent on teachers, reducing classroom sizes, improved school infrastructure was being asked to be diverted into gadgets for children when it has NOT been proven that putting gadgets in the hands of children in first world countries has been a magical solution at all. far from it, every attempt to add computers into classrooms in the us has been a botched failure based on fear and ignorance. millions of wasted tax payer money funding children playing oregon trail, playing ridiculous math games and such on expensive hardware. teaching children amount "guis and mice" and how to type when such skills are easily picked up by the new generation without such classes, the fears were totally unfounded. it is not a cost effective way to spend education budgets in the first world, never mind the developing world. now basically every child has access to a computer in the western world, whether at home or the library/school lab. are all these children coding genius's because this access? lol, what actually happens when you get tech into childrens hands is that it becomes a communications toy. myspace, facebook, youtube whatever. now these things are fine, but asking for developing countries governments to fund universal access to such stuff is ridiculous.
  • Re:Be Warned (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Hal_Porter ( 817932 ) on Thursday January 08, 2009 @03:29AM (#26369121)

    Alan Sugar would have been hilarious in this project. When he bought Sinclair they were working on a ridiculously half assed flat CRT display for a project called Pandora. Guy Kewney had a demo and said that "You put your chin on a leather chinrest and refocused your eyes and after a few seconds you could see four lines of twenty green characters floating eerily in the infinite distance". Alan Sugar attended a demonstration too, and after than Sinclair stopped mentioning the project. Kewney asked him and the converation went like this

    GK: "Do you plan to use the technology in the Pandora project commercially?"
    AS: "Have you seen it?"
    GK: "Yes"
    AS: "Well then."

    Pandora was a classic Sinclairism really. LCDs were expensive so they tried to find a cheaper alternative but they didn't have the resources, or the industrialisation skills to make it work. By the time they burned through lots of funds on research, LCDs were cheaper and far outperformed their quirky bent CRT design. Mind you I bet the Japanese spent far more getting LCDs to that point.

    Actually it turns out that they didn't invent the bent CRT, and weren't the only company trying to commercialise it.

    http://www.thevalvepage.com/tv/sinclair/ftv1/ftv1.htm [thevalvepage.com]
    Although Sinclair seems to get credited for the invention of the unusual C.R.T., it was in fact the brain child of Doctor D. Gabor in the mid 1950's (follow this link for a period magazine article [thevalvepage.com]). Yet having spent 6 years developing the set, Sinclair was actually pipped to the post by a similar sideways tube design from Sony. However the writing was on the wall for this type of C.R.T. ; in 1977, when sSinclair lauched their first pocket TV (the MTV1) Hitachi displayed a prototype television that was the first to use a new display technology, namely LCD. Then in the same year as this FTV1 model was lauched Casio (and possibly Seiko) launched the first production televisions utilising an LCD screen.

  • by Douglas Goodall ( 992917 ) on Thursday January 08, 2009 @11:54AM (#26372627) Homepage
    I participated in the G1G1 program on the dual basis that I could write software for the platform, and I could do something nice for a third world child. It seems that Microsoft has outsmarted me again. The OLPC is a lousy Windows machine and not worthy of my time to develop software for. My idealistic hope to do something nice for a child has come to unknown results. I can only hope that some child used it to access the Internet for a while, and that in and of itself would have been valuable IMHO. Otherwise I guess I am the owner of an orphan green notebook computer that never was able to access my Apple Airport wifi router because of WPA problems that were never fixed. Keeping a WEP setup just for the OLPC is not worthwhile because of the security implications. As the french would say, se la merde. I am a switcher and no longer write software for Windows, other than accidental compatibility based on Python. I am disappointed I guess that things didn't work out better overall for OLPC, but at least I tried.
  • by grumbel ( 592662 ) <grumbel+slashdot@gmail.com> on Friday January 09, 2009 @07:21PM (#26393505) Homepage

    There are several documented ways to run Linux apps in Sugar.

    There are ways to run Linux applications by *bypassing* Sugar, there currently are no ways to run them properly from within Sugar itself or to interact with them properly, since Sugar doesn't support a classic file system. Sugar is a desktop environment that does everything it can to make it hard to run normal applications.

    Its good to hear that they are trying to fix that now, but its again a case of "to little, to late", this is something that should have been thought of right from the start. The whole goal to have everything as a proper Sugar app was nice, but just unrealistic. Even those apps that are 'proper' Sugar apps, are quite frequently just wrapped classic Linux applications, that bypass a lot of what Sugar does (eToys, Squeak, etc.).

    Oh, and of course the mess works the other way around too, running Sugar applications in a normal Linux system isn't exactly pretty either.

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