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Google a "Happy Loser" In Spectrum Auction 162

Large cell service providers won almost all of the licenses in the recently concluded FCC spectrum auction. Google didn't get any and won't be entering the wireless business. Verizon Wireless was the big winner, laying out $9.4 billion for enough regional licenses in the "C" block to stitch together nationwide coverage, except for Alaska. On this spectrum Verizon will have to allow subscribers to use any compatible wireless device and run any software application they want. AT&T paid $6.6 billion, Qualcomm picked up a few licenses, and Paul Allen's Vulcan Spectrum LLC won a pair of licenses in the "A" block. One analyst called Google a "happy loser" because it got the openness it had pushed for. The AP's coverage does some more of the numbers.
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Google a "Happy Loser" In Spectrum Auction

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  • Re:Who won Alaska (Score:5, Informative)

    by Nibbler999 ( 1101055 ) <tom_atkinson@fs[ ]org ['fe.' in gap]> on Thursday March 20, 2008 @06:23PM (#22812736) Homepage
    "Triad 700, LLC" - whoever they are. The full results are on the FCC auction site.

    https://auctionsignon.fcc.gov/signon/index.htm [fcc.gov]

    Login to Auction 73 and click 'results'.
  • by speculatrix ( 678524 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:05PM (#22813204)
    just google for "nemesis service suite" - it's a windows app that will change all sorts of things about your phone including the product ID, which then means the Nokia Software Updater will allow you to install generic s/w which is usually the latest version. I have de-branded quite a few N95s and my own E65, and they're so much better for it. Note that this can also brick your phone, so be sure to check the product code BEFORE is compatible with the intended code AFTER.
  • by C0rinthian ( 770164 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:10PM (#22813250)
    440Hz is A.
  • Re:Who won Alaska (Score:3, Informative)

    by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:10PM (#22813256)
    "Triad 700, LLC" - whoever they are.

    Looks like a newly created VC company made for the express purpose of bidding on this. That sucks for us. The last useless company that won lots of spectrum in Alaska never paid for it, never used it, and it was tied up in court for years because the FCC tried to repo it like a car that wasn't paid for, and the bankrupcy courts said they couldn't take it back. By the time it was done with, the spectrum had dropped in price (they speculated when the bidding was high around 2000, and declared bankrupcy when it was obvious no one wanted to buy it from them). With another no-name company bidding on something they don't know how to use, Alaska will be screwed. Again.
  • by Albanach ( 527650 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:13PM (#22813268) Homepage
    That may have been the worst thing you could do.

    You needed to change the product code first, so the software update gets the unbranded version. You could find that you now have the most up to date firmware and you'll need to wait for the next Nokia release.

    However, you may find third parties who are able to flash the phone to the generic firmware. You'll need to pay a fee though.
  • by megaditto ( 982598 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:14PM (#22813292)
    Short answer is YES, you are gonna get screwed.

    Recall that the original auction specs had a mandate to re-sell bandwidth in bulk (costs + reasonable fees), but Verizon lobbied hard to get it dropped for some reason. My random guess is that they wanted to have monopoly and set their own prices (translation: you are screwed).

    Also, Verizon is making a killing selling those $100/month "unlimited" plans and $2 ringtones. Therefore, there is no way in hell they would undercut that by allowing something like a reasonably priced VoIP over their network.

  • by darthflo ( 1095225 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:17PM (#22813314)
    Of course not. I haven't read the full thing, but as far as I know, it's going to be run GSM style. If you want to use the network, you'll have to get it's equivalent of GSM's SIM card (and the contract that comes with it), usable in any device that supports this network.
    Nothing new here, the rest of the world has been doing this for over a decade and a half.
  • by greensoap ( 566467 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @07:58PM (#22813752)
    "In that regard, we emphasize that C Block licensees may not impose any additional discriminatory charges (one-time or recurring) or conditions on customers who seek to use devices or applications outside of those provided by the licensee.
    " FCC Open Access Requirements Paragraph 222 in FCC 07-132

    No charges for using the device by the consumer. Of course, you are still charged service fees and if the contract is 10cents/kilobyte transfered there is nothing to stop Verizon from doing that so long as they charge everybody the same.

    "In addition, C Block licensees cannot exclude applications or devices solely on the basis that such applications or devices would unreasonably increase bandwidth demands. We anticipate that demand can be adequately managed through feasible facility improvements or technology-neutral capacity pricing that does not discriminate against subscribers using third-party devices or applications."

    As far as bandwidth shaping goes, the FCC says no. But, they also say that the network is subject to reasonable network management (look to the outcome of the recent Comcast dealings for guidance). The open applications requirement is subject to "reasonable network management" and if the bandwidth limitations inherent in 4G technology makes it reasonable to shape bandwidth, as compared to the bandwidth available to cable modem users, the FCC may allow Verizon to shape the bandwidth.

  • Google is lucky (Score:3, Informative)

    by HungSoLow ( 809760 ) on Thursday March 20, 2008 @08:05PM (#22813818)
    Google was lucky to have not bought into the spectrum.

    Antenna design scales linearly with frequency. Lower frequencies invariably require larger antennas. There are some ways you can get around this, i.e. accept low efficiencies, or narrow bandwidth, etc. Either way, you DO NOT want to lower your center frequency.

    Secondly, and most importantly, the next gen for wireless communications will involve MIMO. I assure you, from practical experience and graduate research, you will not see multiple antennas in the 700 MHz spectrum. Nor will you see it at the 900 MHz spectrum. You might be able to pull it off at 1800 MHz, but you'll get at most two antennas. One needs to move into the 2.5 GHz and above to make a reasonably sized handheld WITH multiple antennas. You can't just place the antennas any which way and expect MIMO to work. The antennas need to have low coupling between them, so you need significant electrical distances between them. It's EASY to design multiple antennas for different frequencies (i.e. Quadband), but VERY difficult to design multiple uncoupled antennas at the SAME frequency (i.e. MIMO).

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