Adelaide Gets a Taste of Free WiFi 132
Anonymous Coward writes "Adelaide's Citilan network is being relaunched. Sometime in the last two weeks they decided to open it up for free use to anyone in Adelaide's CBD, pending full commercial launch.
Get in and find a hotspot while its hot!"
uh-huh. (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like a pretty sensible promotion.
Who said crack dealers have nothing to teach service providers?
Re:SHANIA TWAIN!!! (Score:1, Funny)
Re:SHANIA TWAIN!!! (Score:1, Funny)
That don't impress me much.
Re:uh-huh. (Score:2, Funny)
Well they 'aint in it for love.
Re:uh-huh. (Score:4, Interesting)
The Adelaide City Council, for all its faults, is desperately trying to lure 18-45s (their own stated demographic, bit broad if you ask me!) into the CBD. They're running a fairly expensive (for a council, anyway) advertising campaign and also have a small subsidised housing project for young employees under a certain threshold.
Supporting this sort of initiative (Citilan) wouldn't be too stupid in aiding that. At the least, they could offer a free citi-wide intranet with various arts and entertainment projects running.
Re:uh-huh. (Score:2)
So... what, any commercial product that offers a free taste of its services is considered crack dealing now? Or should they just make it free even though it costs them money to run?
I wonder when it became fashionable around here to be a freeloader.
Adelaide (Score:3, Funny)
Did they know we have a nude beach ? (Score:3, Funny)
You couldn't see it from the track, however, it isn't all that far away from the CBD - about 1/2 hours drive at "normal" person speed.
Re:Did they know we have a nude beach ? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Adelaide (Score:2)
Ok, so I'm being defensive. But Adelaide is actually quite attractive.
Homestar Runner... (Score:2)
Forever young,
Chester Elegante
Re:Adelaide (Score:1)
I live there.
Wait we have the Adelaide hills, hahndorf and... um.. victor harbor.. yeah...
We've got some good mountain biking trails. Seriously, Adelaide isn't that bad
Re:Adelaide (Score:2)
Re:Adelaide (Score:1)
I've personally have had enough of career (eg 8am til 6pm at work etc..) and now want my family to have a better lifestyle.
Another problem with Sydney is can take upto
Re:Adelaide (Score:2)
Pay:
Sydney/Melbourne > Adelaide/Brisbane
Liveability:
Brisbane > Sydney/Melbourne > Adelaide
Although I'm confused by your comments that everyone moves away from Adelaide to Sydney/Melbourne for higher pay and yet cannot afford a house. Affordability would make Adelaide a more liveable option and yet you say that everyone moves away to the less affordable place
Re:Adelaide (Score:1)
Brisbane is north eastern Australia (above sydney) a has tropical weather, Adelaide is down south and colder (in winter).
Adelaide has a smaller job market and thats probably what drives people away.
Brisbane, while small, seems to be growing and is more diverse
Adelaide IT jobs are mainly defense related.
I've included a link to a IT job page which I subscribe to, and i guess influences my opinions.
Adelaide and Brisbane are very afforadble for housing. 4/5 bedroom and
Re:Adelaide (Score:1)
I have been to San Fran and have experienced the weather over there first hand and must say that Adelaide is probably very similar in climate. Hot in Summer, cold in Winter. Probably hotter in summer then SF and colder in winter too, although we left in early November, so didn't experience too much of winter.
Adelaide is probably a mor
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There's an excellent mountain bike trail, not in Adelaide but a day or so's drive away - the Maws
Re:Adelaide (Score:1)
Now I live in Adelaide, so I'm quite biased I guess. But I've asked some people about why they settled on Adelaide (I considered it a boring place). Generally the feeling is that Adelaide has all the facilities of a big city, but is much smaller and easier to get around. The CBD is very compact and surrounded by park lands. There are lots of cycling tracks suitable for famil
How will they migrate to commercial (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:How will they migrate to commercial (Score:1)
Now I have a laptop with a working battery, I might go and use it next time I'm in the city.
Re:How will they migrate to commercial (Score:2)
What is the difference (Score:5, Interesting)
I have used it on several occasions to grab files from the Node mirror instead of having to use dialup. It's even faster than my DSL if you can find a hotspot that isn't heavily used (sitting outside the State Library at 3am helps until you get arrested).
They are going to close it off soon AFIK - there are too many leechers. There's always a bunch of (no offence, but they are always) asians around some of the more public indoor hotspots (library, museum, etc) that bring desktop PCs, fold out tables and chairs, etc just to leech free Internet for the day. There was even one there that brought his 5.1 surround speakers and the stands for the rear ones were set up behind him - in the middle of they foyer.
I'm amazed that Citilan is still open to the public, actually - the ISPs are footing the bill and it's free, although I did hear talk that if you use a Node login on it you chew up your Node download quota for the month; but that was just a rumour, I've never heard proof of it.
Re:What is the difference (Score:2, Interesting)
"Your honour, I wasn't loitering, I was surfing."
Re:What is the difference (Score:2)
Re:What is the difference (Score:1)
Damn serious offence
Bandwidth theft next problem ? (Score:2)
Even if they switch on authenticated Internet access, are they going to have problems with people just using the wireless layer 2 link for trading files between laptops etc.
Are they using something like 802.1X/LEAP for layer 2 authentication, which would also prevent unauthorised use of the wireless, layer 2 bandwidth itself ?
Re:Bandwidth theft next problem ? (Score:1)
Re:Bandwidth theft next problem ? (Score:1)
Well, if the wireless layer is open, (Score:2)
I think they were using an open network, with a login page the first time you try to use the connection.
That's probably only the case if you enable DHCP, and then aquire an IP address from the Citylan network.
My question is more about the idea of running your own IP subnet over the same wireless LAN, by statically configuring IP addresses on the interfaces of the devices that you want to communicate. In this sense, you aren't stealing Internet bandwidth, you're stealing wireless bandwidth. If it is an
Re:Well, if the wireless layer is open, (Score:1)
What's wrong with setting up your own Ad-Hoc network or using a small USB powered AP? Honestly...
Re:Well, if the wireless layer is open, (Score:2)
Ah, I understand what you're getting at now, and it's rather selfish of those people.
I certainly agree it's selfish, obviously that doesn't mean people won't try to do it :-). That being said, if people, such as Agile, make a useful and convenient resource freely and easily available, I think it's fairly likely that people will try use it. It's a bit like a having a tap available in a public park. Even if it is obviously not a drinking fountain, most people will probably have no problems with taking a d
Re:Well, if the wireless layer is open, (Score:1)
Re:What is the difference (Score:2)
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Re:What is the difference (Score:1, Insightful)
Hasn't Citilan always been open for free (at least for members of a long list of ISPs including Internode, Adam, Esc.Net, and others)?
Yes, yes it has. The difference is currently it is open for anybody, not just account holders of a few ISPs.
There's always a bunch of (no offence, but they are always) asians around some of the more public indoor hotspots
Wow, how positively racist, and +4 interesting too.
I see people all over the place using it, and no more than the usual quota of asian people around
Re:What is the difference (Score:2)
Wow, how positively racist
Not meant to be racist (and apologies to anyone who took offence) - I see people all over the place using Citilan as well. It just seems the only ones that I have seen make out camp (with their desktop PCs and fold out tables) in the foyer of the library and around that area happen to be asian :)
Seems you've noticed a couple of extreme cases and applied your labels
Not so much a label as an observation. Everyone uses Citilan, but yes I have noticed the extreme cases. T
At the risk of being a total dick... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:At the risk of being a total dick... (Score:2)
Re:At the risk of being a total dick... (Score:2)
Doh! (Score:1)
I really hate this town sometimes.
Re:Rebranded? (Score:2, Informative)
'Agile' as an SSID is probably because they're handling the hardware; I imagine they'll change it over when people are actually paying money for it.
Re:Rebranded? (Score:1)
And to whoever commented about the tardy rollout of ADSL2+, I suggest they take note of the monopolistic and anti-competitive practices of the nationwide telco, Telstra (as someone posted a link to before). Given the relative youth of consumer broadband in Australia, I applaud Internode's
Security? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Security? (Score:4, Insightful)
Hackers can already get your information from anywhere in the world!
Re:Security? (Score:3, Interesting)
Making there life a little harder isn't forbidden.
I have setup a VPN server on my home computer so that when I am travelling or when I connect via an unsecure connection (i.e Starbucks) I can always VPN my way home and not matter about security as much.
where? (Score:5, Informative)
Background on Adelaide in Australia - the one mentioned in the article:
http://www.adelaidecitycouncil.com/council/about/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide [wikipedia.org]
Ben Folds moved there (Score:2)
Re:Ben Folds moved there (Score:2)
yes
He's left now (Score:2)
Re:where? (Score:5, Insightful)
Personally I don't mind at all if they say just the city name if it's in the biggest four or five cities of a major country. I do however mind if there is several cities of the same name, it is a small or obscure city, or they are using abbreviations that noone outside the area knows. (American states anyone?)
Re:where? (Score:1)
Re:where? (Score:2, Insightful)
If you said 'Adelaide, NJ', or 'Adelaide, AZ' they'd all think they knew what you were on about even if they didn't.
Re:where? (Score:1)
Re:where? (Score:2)
The guy actually had the hide to call us idiots for his ignorance when he actually meant "Washington". Of course w
Re:where? (Score:1)
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Re:where? (Score:2)
Go and relax by the pewell.
Re:where? (Score:2)
CBD (Score:1)
Agile? Doing citywide wireless? (Score:3, Interesting)
This oughtta be a laugh.
Re:Agile? Doing citywide wireless? (Score:3, Informative)
Firstly, there are another ~40 planned for 2005, and these are being held up by the evil oligopolistic Telstra [whirlpool.net.au].
Secondly, the wireless points connect via standard ethernet into Agile's backbone network, I believe.
Re:Agile? Doing citywide wireless? (Score:2)
Re:Agile? Doing citywide wireless? (Score:2)
Oh noes! Not Telstra!
So if Telstra is so evil why are iiNet so far along in their ADSL deployment?
I'd wager a fifty that its because they get on with the job rather than spouting hot air and bitching about Telstra.
Re:Agile? Doing citywide wireless? (Score:2)
Great (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Great (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Great (Score:1)
Re:Great (Score:1)
Re:Wait... (Score:1)
My Home Town!! (Score:5, Informative)
Also: Wikipedia on Adelaide [wikipedia.org]
Re:My Home Town!! (Score:2)
(For overseas readers unfamiliar with Australia... Quote from Pacific Island Travel [pacificislandtravel.com]: Curving around the Great Australian Bight, the route across the Nullarbor is legendary and one of Australia's great road journeys. It is more than 2700km from Perth to Adelaide, about the same as the distance from London to Moscow.)
Just remember to pack some interesting reading material.
Re:My Home Town!! (Score:2)
Great place to visit, too. I spent a couple of weeks there. It was my first trip outside of the States, and I really enjoyed myself. Nice place, friendly people, even got to hold a Koala at a nearby zoo! (Kangaroos are bastards, though!)
One of the best trips I ever took.
Re:My Home Town!! (Score:2)
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Bean Bar (Score:2)
A: Very very good.
Beats the hell out of Cibo, and waaay better than Gloria Jeans/Hudsons/whatever.
Adelaide is boring (Score:2)
Re:Adelaide is boring (Score:1)
I picked the right week to go to Adelaide! (Score:2)
I had debated bringing my laptop, but now I know I can get wireless it's a cinch. I can spend all my time on Slashdot!
MuniComp (Score:2)
city of churches - and wifi (Score:2)
Excellent, I'll be in Adelaide for work shortly with my PowerBook and WoW in tow, I can save the hotel dial up bills and just use free wireless :)
having been to Adelaide before, there's not a whole heap to do after hours... I've been present for drinking the Colonel Light dry once already, and casinos aren't really that entertaining any more.
Re:only problem is.. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:only problem is.. (Score:1)
Except, for the hills, of course.
Just hope that they don't install any hotspots on the hills, we won't want to have another great bush fire [abc.net.au] in there (fifth image from top left corner)!
Re:only problem is.. (Score:1)
never... (Score:1)