Tom's Hardware To Cardmakers : Game Over 49
Merlynnus writes "Today, Tom's Hardware has announced that they're tired of being jerked around by the video card manufacturers and are going to publish reviews on their own schedule rather than one dictated by ATI or NVidia. From the site: "Reviews of cards with pre-launch buggy drivers and yet-to-come updates do no service to the user. We explain why we will no longer play that game."
Hopeful (Score:5, Insightful)
They're a large enough review site that they could hold out by themselves, but I doubt it will make any real difference unless some of the others adopt a similar position.
Good for them (Score:3, Insightful)
So I'll put Tom's site back in my bookmark folder for now. If this is some stupid PR stunt, then I'll see it soon enough. But I seriously hope the reviewers over there are trying to bring back the credibility they once had. We really need more honest review sites to break away from the vendor's strong-arm tactics.
Re:Hopeful (Score:5, Insightful)
There's a reason why I don't read Tom's anymore .. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hopeful (Score:2, Insightful)
So do I, and it'll be the one that gets the review up first. Information is free, and as soon as it's out there, the cat's out of the bag. What on earth could Tom's do better with more time? Another graph? Please. I want to know clock speeds and RAM size, general performance metrics, and if it'll fit in my case. Anything else is pretty pointless. If Tom's can't get that done in the same amount of time as the HUNDREDS of other enthusiast sites out there, then that's their problem. If they can do it, but not with quality, guess what? Still their problem.
Not to mention that I'd be willing to bet that companies will realize that they'd be better off sending that review card to a site that will get the review done in a timeframe that THEY want. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
I stopped reading Tom's a long time ago because of the constant grousing and airing of thier dirty laundry. It's the same thing here. Why post a huge announcement
Re:who's fault is this? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:perhaps I'm on the wrong page (Score:4, Insightful)
250,000 fanboys deciding which $600 card to buy on the basis of your website and, say, four others.... you don't think that's important? We're talking about $150,000,000 in revenue that's directly tied to what these sites write.
People base card buying decisions on reviews, not advertisements. Being ethical when in a position like that is not self-important.
And fuck it all anyway.... since when is it self-important to do your job right in ANY situation? The only reason he made this announcement is that if he didn't, people would think his site hadn't been able to *get* the new card, and he'd lose his business. If you're going to take a stand, you have to tell the people who are affected why things have changed.
Re:Hopeful (Score:5, Insightful)
Which car review would you put more stock in - the one written by a person who got to take the car home for a couple of weeks and subject it to regular daily usage, or the one written by the guy who got to drive it around the block twice while the salesguy was sitting right next to him? I mean, if all you want is info as fast as possible and you really don't care about the source, well, both ATI and nVidia put their press releases on their websites - just bookmark those pages and call it a day.
Re:who's fault is this? (Score:4, Insightful)
Objective Reviews (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Objective Reviews (Score:3, Insightful)
but this is internet journalism, where ethical rules don't seem to apply...
Re:There's a reason why I don't read Tom's anymore (Score:3, Insightful)
I buy ATI because I like the company and because I didn't like how NVidia basically killed of 3DFX. Does that mean I sometimes get video cards that aren't as fast as I could be getting? Most likely. Does that
The whole industry needs to get a grip.
Re:perhaps I'm on the wrong page (Score:3, Insightful)
They may not be the first to market or have the most popular products but they often have the best reviews and it's investigative journalism.
Basically they are saying that many of the products that pass through their labs have glaring faults that they simply cannot assess with 12 hours of benchmarking.
They also need to look around at some of the customer complaints and assess the level of problems for themselves, I have to RFA crap all the time and it pisses me off. There is nowhere where you can get statistics on this kind of thing but Tom's takes the time to check out "common complaints" and see if there is a problem with the manufacturing.
Strings attached (Score:3, Insightful)
If they insult the manufacturers, or blow them off, they won't get an early card next time. There are only a few available anyway.
What would happen if TH had to buy a card off the shelf? They'd have late reviews. Would they still get readers? Depends if the readers want a quick review of a pre-release card, or an indepth review that can be trusted. Both readers exist.