Massive Small Form Factor Preview From Computex 139
Ultim8pc points to this "huge article covering almost every Small Form Factor offering that was on show at Computex. Includes, details of each manufacturers history in SFF." I especially like IWill's oscilloscope-looking Athlon 64 case.
Here's (Score:3, Informative)
Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:2)
Back in my day, we had to lug our Pentium computers with 64MB RAM, and 2MB PCI graphic's cards uphill both ways in the snow, while carrying our coaxial networking gear. If I had a dime for everytime I cramped up carrying my 35lb. 12" monitor, i'd be able to finally buy a new monitor!
Ahem....
Re:Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:1)
Re:Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:1)
Re:Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:1)
You lucky bastard, you had floppies.
SYS 52598
LOADING
*Long wait*
READY.
*Switch tapes*
SYS 52592
*Long wait*
Or at whichever address the commands of your turbo tape where located
I won't forget those numbers ever.
I wish I were kidding...
Re:Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:1)
Re:Why couldn't they have theese things... (Score:1)
In style (Score:2, Insightful)
As technology advances, fitting more and more into smaller and smaller spaces... Why do cars keep getting bigger and bigger?
Small but still seen (Score:1)
Frankly, I think an LCD monitor, featureless keyboard and mouse are more than enough for my desktop. I'd like to see someone design a computer that can hang next to my suits in the closet so I don't have to look at it anymore.
Re:In style (Score:1, Funny)
Because ppl are getting fatter and fatter
Re:In style (Score:1)
They don't. It all goes in cycles. Cars were in a large cycle in the '50s and '60s, went into a downsize in the '70s, and are slowing coming back up.
SUVs are more popular now, but if you look closely you will discover they have existed for a long time.
Re:In style (Score:1, Insightful)
After the hippie bum rush against detroit, compact and economy cars were all the rage. They got smaller and smaller. To drive a full sized sedan, after all, was to spit in mother natures face.
Now, people are realizing that the gas mileage between a compact and a full sized car is negligible (it's also negligible compared to an SUV), and all the tiny cars do for you is increase your chances of dying exponentially. The safest passenger vehicle on the road is a full sized car. So t
Re:In style (Score:1)
And 390 horsepower!
Re:In style (Score:2, Insightful)
The 2.5X difference in MPG between a large SUV and a compact car is negligible? If they were to propose raising your taxes by 150%, would you consider that to be negligible as well?
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(it's also negligible compared to an SUV)
Right.
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Hmmm... since the original post wasn't exactly grammatically correct, I suppose you could parse it to mean that SUVs particularly suck compared to both large and small cars. However, to me it seems more likely that he's bundling all three together in the 'similar' category.
Re:In style (Score:3, Insightful)
What part of this you didn't understand?
Re:In style (Score:2)
(Says the guy who has no car.)
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Massive Small Form Factor? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Massive Small Form Factor? (Score:2)
So, I would be more worried about someone dropping it, which might release the strong nuclear force, and well, we get another Hiroshima.
Re:Massive Small Form Factor? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Small form factor, phhhht! Give me rack-mount! (Score:1)
form factor."
To me, bigger is better, and even better if rack-mount. I want room for fans (the more the better), and plenty of air-flow.
How do you feel about blade servers?
Re:Small form factor, phhhht! Give me rack-mount! (Score:1)
Re:Small form factor, phhhht! Give me rack-mount! (Score:2)
Other people have different needs than you do. This is an idea you might get comfortable with. You'll see it again.
Re:Small form factor, phhhht! Give me rack-mount! (Score:1)
It Rox baby!
photography (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:photography (Score:1)
(Or is that the new black? Beige was never cool, but silver may still be cool for a little longer.)
And howzcome these all look like shoeboxes? Why isn't anyone doing something in a format similar to by reciever / tape deck / VCR / DVD?
Re:photography (Score:2)
Recievers, tape decks, vcr's and dvd players are designed the way they are (short, wide and flat) so that you can stack the various components on top of one another. Since most people only have 1 computer, a stackable design is not a high priority. There are however, rackmount computers cases which are designed for this type of thing, and do bear a resemblance in shape
Here ya go (Score:2)
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what's the point? (Score:1)
Re:what's the point? (Score:1, Funny)
you are obviously not a geek.
Re:what's the point? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:what's the point? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:what's the point? (Score:4, Interesting)
My TV has a VGA in, and many of these PCs have digital audio out -- so why the hell not? A small PC is perfect for this sort of thing.
Re:what's the point? (Score:2)
B) I can't play my emulated games on an Xbox, at least not without modding the thing and installing Linux. At that point, I've just got an annoying and more-difficult-to-use PC. I'd rather just have a real PC at that point.
Re:what's the point? (Score:1)
As far as modding goes, you don't even need to use a modchip or open your Xbox as long as you don't have the latest dashboard
Re:what's the point? Portability, Space, ... (Score:1, Interesting)
If you want a no compromise portable computer then SFF is th
Re:what's the point? (Score:2)
If you want to install many HDs and cards, then obviously you will want a regular size PC.
SFF? Small Form Factor? (Score:2)
I used to like big computers that flash and beep.. (Score:3, Funny)
And its already gone... (Score:2)
Rus
Massive small (Score:1)
Why not USB? (Score:5, Interesting)
Can anyone explain to me why there are still boxes shipping with the old PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports? Doesn't every OS worth installing on x86 hardware support USB now? Futhermore, why can't I find a decent keyboard with extra USB slots in it and with out all the redundant "multimedia" buttons (ala iMac) so I can hide the box under the table?
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hecubas
Re:Why not USB? (Score:3, Informative)
you'll want a happy hacking keyboard [yahoo.com] then
2 extra USB ports built in, *no* redundant buttons, tiny form factor, full sized, proper 'clicky' keys - it's great.
you call those 'proper "clicky" keys'?! :) (Score:1)
Clicky? Model M
timothy
Re:Why not USB? (Score:2)
Since when is tiny form factor a good thing for a keyboard? That thing will kill my wrists in two days.
I just need these "ergonomic" keyboards, Microsoft Natural Elite, etc... can't stand to type on a normal one anymore.
Otherwise it looks great. Just split it into a left and a right part with a bulge in the middle.
Re:Why not USB? (Score:2)
Nathan
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The whole point is that these are new systems; the BIOS will support USB keyboards out of the box.
Most new systems in the past two years (and probably more) have supported USB keyboards in the BIOS without requiring the user to change any options.
The only issue that you might run across is using a USB keyboard to power up the system... I haven't had a chance to test this functionality.
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Re:Why not USB? (Score:1)
Turns out that the console connection is not USB, but PS/2. The USB ports that are provided, however, are useful only in the event that the PCs connected to the KVM lack PS/2 connections. Go figure.
My guess there's lots of KVMs in the field lacking USB support. Also, it's possible that the len
Re:Why not USB? (Score:1)
Re:Why not USB? (Score:2)
The best keyboards, the truly great ones, the ones that those of us who type super duper fast love, the ones you can whack the moles with and go right back to work - these are still not available as USB keyboards.
So to hardcore typists, it is still necessary to have PS/2 for the keyboard.
It might be a lame excuse, though, since you can get a perfectly good USB-PS/2 adapter for $12 at RadioShack, and I bet that would be extremely cheap at the OEM lev
Microsoft Natural keyboard (Score:2)
Along with Microsoft Optical Trackball, both are the only good products from Microsoft. And the only two Microsoft products I use at home :)
Re:Why not USB? (Score:1)
Actually, my good troll, I considered using the Playstation 2's keyboard as a replacement to the standard PS/2 one. It's compact and cheap.
Re:Why not USB? (Score:1)
- The "system resources" consumed by USB mouse and keyboard are trivial.
- USB just works too . . . at least on my Macs. Is the PC platform screwed up in some way such that it has trouble dealing with USB devices?
- If price is your top concern, generic beige USB keyboards are available for nearly nothing. I have one, it works OK.
- Face it: at some point you're going to buy a USB hub anyhow. You might as well buy it on day one and plug your mouse and keyboard into it.
USB is cool. Repla
I modded a broken GameCube (Score:4, Interesting)
Massive Small Form Factor? (Score:2)
That's not very nice. (Score:1)
Headline (Score:2)
So what is a massively small form factor? A minitower or a full tower?
Re:Headline (Score:1)
Perhpas this will help:
Massive Small Form Factor Preview From Computex.
Better?
Didn't Apple do this first? (Score:1)
Re:Didn't Apple do this first? (Score:1, Insightful)
It took Shuttle roughly 18 months to release their first SFF using the form factor followed by most SFF machines today. It took 18 months AFTER the Cube
OS's / GUI's for these babies? (Score:1)
But I wonder what OS or GUI I should run? Windows is out. Linux seems more than capable (though the lack of the Sorensen codec is a bummer) and I'm familiar with it from developing.
But here's my catch: I don't want a windowed GUI. I want an interface like TiVo. Something that can be controlled e
Re:OS's / GUI's for these babies? (Score:2)
A friend of mine recently built a MythTV box and he's very happy with it. Now, if there was just some way of getting it to pick up a shared iTunes library...
Cheers,
Ian
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And anything X can be run through it. Setup is a bit of a pain, though if you use RedHat or Mandrake (or another RPM system) you can just URPMI it all.
Re:OS's / GUI's for these babies? (Score:1)
MythTV looks sweet. Strange that I didn't fin it in my googleing...
Re:OS's / GUI's for these babies? (Score:2)
You can play Sorenson files with mplayer, or - even QuickTime itself with Wine (works perfectly with Crossover Plugin, although slow)
Re:OS's / GUI's for these babies? (Score:2)
Showshifter. [showshifter.com]
Strange assumptions (Score:2)
These computers mostly seem to be built under the assumption that you actually need a HDD, FDD, and CDRW/DVD on every desk.
Legacy Ports (Score:1)
These computers all look nice, but I'm dissappointed that every one of them has legacy ports on them.
They can get rid of serial, ps/2, and parallel at the very least. I like how some of them are using slimline cd/dvd drives. Anything to make them smaller.
The smller machines usually have 1 pci slot. I wish they dumped that and dropped in an agp slot instead. Everything I used pci for in the past is now being done with usb. I can live without it now.
Portable PC (Score:1)
JFMILLER
Hint - read the printable version (Score:2)
The whole article is basically an ad, anyway.
puke (Score:2)