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Nokia 7600 All-in-One Phone 275

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prostoalex writes "The new Nokia 7600, reviewed by people at MobileMag is a 3G/GSM phone with radically new design and built-in functionality of an MP3 player, multimedia browser and digital camera. The phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM 900/1800. Some pictures of the product are available at Nokia's site. This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor."
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Nokia 7600 All-in-One Phone

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  • First attempt? (Score:5, Informative)

    by miodekk (680870) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:36AM (#7063565)
    > This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor.

    AFAIR Nokia was the first cellular phone maker, who introduced combined phone and PDA (Nokia Communicator). It wasn't maybe "lightweight and thin", but the times were different.

    Regards

    • Re:First attempt? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by gilesjuk (604902)
      They still sell them now, touch screens will have a hard time replacing keyboards such as the one in the Nokia 9210i. Not to mention you won't get much of a word processor or spreadsheet on a small square screen.

      Different form factor for different uses, this is the gadget that might make 3G seem a little cooler.
  • Hmm...but why? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ideatrack (702667) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:37AM (#7063578)
    I have seen these before, and yet never understood why it's necessary to combine the two? Both are small enough to be insignificant, and to be honest, if I was on the 'phone to a client, then I'd want to be able to use my PDA without having to stop talking. Isn't this a bit of a niche market?
    • by raygundan (16760) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:51AM (#7063712) Homepage
      Every time there's a converged device, we get comments like this. Likewise, every time we hear about a new gadget of some sort, we get comments suggesting it would be better if we tried cross-breeding it with a laptop.

      Just stop for a second and realize that not everybody has the same tastes as you. Variety is good! People who want all that and a bag of chips can go buy a PDA/Phone/Camera/MP3/GPS, and people who just want a phone can get one of the simple no-nonsense Nokia models. People who like to have their pants stuffed with electronics can buy it all separately so they can practice juggling it all while simultaneously talking to clients on the phone.

      In the end, we all benefit when there's choices. Quit complaining when a product isn't the same as the products you like-- and just go buy those instead.

      And yes, I should probably heed my own advice.

    • by ArmenTanzarian (210418) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:56AM (#7063758) Homepage Journal
      I'm reminded of a quote I heard on Dr. Katz once (I believe the guest was Jon Stewart), "Wow, a futon, great! During the day it's an uncomfortable couch and at night, it's an even more uncomfortable bed!" Why make things crappier, just to put them together?
      • Hey! Some of us have been waiting ages for an ashtray-mini TV hybrid!

        Seriously tho'... hold one of these to your head to talk and you're half way to owning a set of Spock ears.

      • I have always wanted a cell phone that's an MP3 player. 29 megs of memory obviously won't cut it, but they're only going to get better from here on.

        I'm eagerly waiting for the day when we'll have a small device that's a cell phone, mp3 player, and full web browser, WITH a reasonable input interface. I applaud each step closer to that day.
    • Re:Hmm...but why? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Ami Ganguli (921) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:57AM (#7063769) Homepage

      It's a matter of opinion I guess. I stopped carrying my Palm after about six months. I didn't like having both a PDA and a phone hanging from my belt. For me, the more things they can cram into a cell-phone-sized package the better.

      Also, just making the phone smaller is useless at this point. To have any real effect you'd have to shrink the screen and keyboard to an annoyingly small size. Better to keep a reasonable form factor and just put more things in the case.

      As for using the PDA while you're talking, the hands-free earpiece is what you need. Also good for freaking people out in the supermarket as you appear to talk to an invisible person.

      • by Contact (109819) on Friday September 26, 2003 @11:37AM (#7064125)
        As for using the PDA while you're talking, the hands-free earpiece is what you need. Also good for freaking people out in the supermarket as you appear to talk to an invisible person.

        Actually, here in the UK where hands free kits are becoming increasingly common, there's a corollary to this - when you actually do get some disturbed character walking down the street ranting to himself, nobody pays any attention as they assume he's just on the phone to someone...

        • " when you actually do get some disturbed character walking down the street ranting to himself, nobody pays any attention as they assume he's just on the phone to someone..."

          I just assume the guy he's talking to is named Al.
        • ...unless you live in London, in which case you turn around, cross the street and run.
      • by Angram (517383)
        Smaller phones would be more nuisance than gain - the keys and screen are as small as they can get and still remain useful for most people. What we need is lighter and more ergonomic phones - same general size, but a better and less bulky shape. Consider the fact that many clip their phone to their belt, yet it isn't in any way designed for such a purpose - you always have a box jutting out from your side. Why not make it crescent-shaped? It could hug your belt, remain closer to your body, and be less likel
      • Yeah, I always found my palm very useful, but I never had it with me - too much trouble to carry everywhere!

        So, I replaced my nokia 8210 and palmpilot with a nokia 7650 (specs here [nokia.com], you can't get them in north america.)

        I'm a convert. The 7650 doesn't suffer too much from lack of a full keyboard or touch screen, and it not too big to carry everywhere. The OS is a dream, everything just works and is very intuitave. Its fun taking snaps or short videos with its built-in camera, and the quality is poor, bu
    • by RoLi (141856)
      As an owner of a Treo, I can only say that I will never buy PDAs and phones seperately.

      The main reason is that no, they are not small enough to be insignificant. I need my front right pocket for my keys and my front left pocket for my Treo and the back pockets break things when I sit down, where could I possibly put another device?

    • Well for one thing the phone only needs to be a spot microphone and tiny earpiece. Everything else in the phone, basically is pda.

      So why not just a pda that has bluetooth and gsm/3G built in.

      Who wants two devices to lose.
  • However, doesn't really look much like a phone.

    I'd feel pretty stupid holding it up against my face to talk. Although, a bluetooth headset might make a nice addition... Handset's a bit counter intuitive too.

    Not that I really need a 3G phone anyhow.
    • Sorry, handset = phone buttons.
    • Actually, I think it's an ugly design. And I also don't think many people will enjoy using it after using a numeric keypad since they were old enough to pick up a phone.

      Exec: "How do we sell more cellphones?"
      Designer: "Why don't we focus on improving the interface, making it easier to..."
      Marketer: "I KNOW!. We'll arrange the numeric keypad in a really kewl way!"
      Exec: "Brilliant! Let's go with it!"
      Designer: "But...*sigh*"

  • after a first glance at the pictures, can someone tell me how to hold it so you are not listening to the microphone and talking to the speaker?

  • by iainl (136759) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:39AM (#7063596)
    I already fail to use my PDA as much as I might do because its slightly too big to fit in my pockets. This thing is over 3 inches wide, which is half as much again, and surely isn't going to be comfortable to hold in one hand.

    As much as part of me finds it an amusing gadget, this really does seem to be part of Nokia's drive to add so many other applications to phones that they stop being any good at phone calls. I wish my 3510i was as good at the phone basics as the old 3210.
  • by halo1982 (679554) * on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:40AM (#7063609) Homepage Journal
    Does anyone else thinks this looks like a $600 football?
  • by Lizard_King (149713) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:41AM (#7063622) Journal
    Makes me feel a little better for buying the 3650. Now I own the second ugliest phone in the universe.

    • Re:New Ugly Duckling (Score:3, Informative)

      by eyegor (148503) *
      Yeah, maybe. I have the 3650 as well. The phone rocks, but the dialpad is a bit weird.

      So far I'm not too impressed with the Bluetooth headsets out there either. I bought one from Belkin and one from Jabra. Neither one would work with the 3650's Bluetooth profile. I suspect that the 7600 will have similar issues

      The 7600 looks too bizzare and the keypad looks like it will be nearly useless.
      • Re:New Ugly Duckling (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Zebbers (134389) on Friday September 26, 2003 @11:36AM (#7064113)
        You need to buy the Nokia headset, nokia did not conform to the bluetooth headset specs.

        The 3650 isnt really ugly...its shaped like a normal celly and really the only unorthodox thing is the keypad, which doesn't take much to get used to and is actually good for typing with t9.

        Its larger than average cell phones but not larger than ones of the past. I went from a Mitsubishi t250 to the 3650 and the nokia was lighter.

        And...the beauty of gsm is the sim card. just buy a smaller more compact 'normal' phone for the times you just need that.
  • by Adler (131568) <exsuperhero@nOSpam.teenagewildlife.com> on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:41AM (#7063628) Homepage Journal
    wheres the GPS mode? the full functional PDA features? maybe even a radio tuner? with 29MB of memory how useful is this as a mp3 player? more than all that what i'd kill for in a phone/phone service is better quality call sound. if 3G services have such a high data rate for better video capabilities, then why dont they use that to make calls sound less like a phone call and more like your sitting next to the person your talking to.
    • Say hello to the Motorola A920.

      3G UMTS
      Triband GSM 900/1800MHz/1900MHz
      Dimensions: 60 x 148 x 24mm
      Weight: 212g
      Screen Size: 39.9 x 61mm
      Screen Resolution: 208 x 320, 16 bit / 64K colors
      Built-In 8MB memory with expandable SD/MMC slot
      Integrated camera (640 x 480 resolution)
      Symbian OS
      GPS
      Audio playback - 128kbps (AAC, MP3) or 64kbps (WMA)
      Audio streaming - 128kbps (AAC)
      Video playback - 256kbps
      Video streaming - 64kbps to 384kbps
      Speakerphone
      Java applications support
      Opera browser
      GPR

    • Tell me about it! I mean, for six hundred bucks I expect a blowjob, or at least a little rub-n-tug!
    • CDMA phones are widely considered to have superior call quality than GSM phones.

      So, if you're used to GSM phones, then you could use this thing on its WCDMA band and perhaps get better quality call sound.
  • I dub thee (Score:3, Funny)

    by BigBir3d (454486) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:41AM (#7063629) Journal
    "The Suppository"
  • PDA? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor.

    What gives you the idea that this is supposed to be a foray into the PDA arena by Nokia? The tiny display doesn't make it seem like a PDA. The lack of a stylus input doesn't make it seem like a PDA.

    It looks like a repackaged 7650, designed to sell to rich German kids with more money than sense.
  • Other links: (Score:5, Informative)

    by chrestomanci (558400) * <david.chrestomanci@org> on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:45AM (#7063666)

    Review in The Register here [theregister.co.uk].

    Nokia page about the phone, with a better listing of fetures here [nokia.com].

  • by Frag-A-Muffin (5490) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:46AM (#7063680) Homepage
    on the new nokias being in funny layouts?! I know I'm not the only one, but sometimes, I only know phone numbers by pattern recognition on a proper numeric pad! :) If I use a phone with a different layout, man, there goes a bunch of my friends! :)

    I know you do it too ... admit it!
    • by mccalli (323026) on Friday September 26, 2003 @11:09AM (#7063871) Homepage
      on the new nokias being in funny layouts?!

      Aah, young 'un. Time was, back in my day, that phones were all circular dials like the 3650, and it was these bizarre three-in-a-row pads that were the weird ones.

      Well...that's only just true - I'm not that old really. However, I was certainly around to see the dying days of the circular dials in the mid-to-late 1970s. Back then, men were men, women were women, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri and phones were real phones. They were made of bakelite, had clicking dialing mechanisms and sported proper bells inside. An important side effect was that they were also heavy enough to be used as a decent murder weapon.

      Not sure about this new thingy, but the recent 3650 just resurrected the good old days.

      Cheers,
      Ian

    • Not to mention it looks hard to one-hand text messages or dialing. Often when I'm riding my bike I have my left hand on the handlebars and my phone in my right hand as I am touch typing text messages.
    • If I use a phone with a different layout, man, there goes a bunch of my friends! :)

      If they were REALLY your friends, you would store their numbers in the phonebook and never have to dial again.
  • by gambit3 (463693) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:47AM (#7063690) Homepage Journal
    That sounds like a press release if I ever read one.

    I have no problem with press releases, but the submitter should *not* have claimed it was a review.
  • by Scooter (8281)
    It won't go in my Nokia car kit. I've stuck with a relaible but boring 6310i because it does. I was hoping that when Nokia got around to maiing a modern device (Like the Sony Erricsson one) that it would be plug compatible and fit in the cradle.

    Guess I'll have to get the car re-plumbed.

  • It has a built-in MP3/AAC player* but no removable memory. It says it holds "up to 50 minutes" of music which by most companies' gauges means that it can hold 45 minutes of mono 64kpbs files.

    *obligitory "waaaaah no OGG support!" comment included here at no extra cost.
  • by turkeyphant (648612) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:49AM (#7063701) Homepage Journal

    ...but I've never understood the purpose of 'phones which can play music yet only have enough room for "up to 50 minutes of near CD-quality music". Go-betweens rarely turn out well and what's the point in having to convert your music to 96kb/s just to fit a whole album on there?

    Mobile 'phones often suffer from poor battery life as it is and I can only see this feature reducing it yet more. Why include an additional "feature" that is detrimental to the device's main function? It's a pain having to switch the music on a player at the best of times, but why would you consider it when you've only got fifty minutes and no upgradabilty? I can't help thinking it's only bloated for the sake of it and to appear more trendy. I dread to learn the ways in which Nokia have organised music downloads straight into the 'phone from mobile services...

    Finally, I'm sure I'm not the only one to lament the lack of Vorbis compatibility. As for LAME, I bet you could barely even fit one song on there...

    • Completely agree with you hear.

      "Features" that make the device larger, worse on battery power, and less effective for a single purpose are far more of a hassle than they are worth. I want a cell phone to be a cell phone. Yes its handy if it holds my address. Yes its handy if it has voice recognition. Yes it can be handy if it can check my email/browse the web (pushing it, personally i would rather go for the smaller phone than something like a blackberry, which are actually very useful though).

      But N
    • It also has AAC support. AAC sounds okay even at 64 kbps, good at 96, and great at 128. It can be nice not to have to carry a watch, phone, MP3 player, scheduler and camera. With this phone, you get it all in one bundle. My old 3310 has the watch, phone and scheduler, but I still have to carry my 32 gram MP3 player, and I don't have a camera. Meh.

      AAC kicks OGG's ass, anyway. Who cares if it's not open-source?

  • First off, it's ugly. Second, how in the WORLD am I supposed to dial with one hand???? Third IT'S UGLY!

    What's wrong Nokia? regular looking (and useful) keypad too good for you? No wonder many Nokia users have all of their numbers in the phone instead of thier head! It's faster to hit a speed dial then a 7 digit phone number.
  • Sure, the new 7600 from Nokia has everything. But if we all just wait, we can get the Nokia 7800, with all the features of the 7600 plus the ability to turn into a car or jet plane and fight evil robots and dinosaurs and stuff.

    And while I'm waiting, I'll get the NGage instead, because the last thing I need is a cellphone that's just a cellphone. I need to spend way too much money on something that has tons of awesome features, but as a phone has bad reception and drops calls all the time.
  • by unfortunateson (527551) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:58AM (#7063781) Journal
    I like it: it's small, but they didn't try to shoehorn in a full keyboard for my sausage-like fingers to mash. The goofy key layout looks pretty optimal for texting with thumbs, actually.

    Regarding "How do I use the PDA and talk at the same time?" -- use a $60 bluetooth headset.

    What is it missing to make my perfect convergence unit?
    a) Higher-res screen. According to the specs at Nokia [nokia.com], it's only 128x160, less than an older-generation Palm. Give me at least 320x240, and we're talking useful
    b) Memory slot. I'm not terribly fussy. My camera is CF, my Palm is SD (but I don't own any devices for it, because it doesn't have good enough sound for me to want to download MP3s), my laptop supports SD and MS but not CF (which is solved with a PCMCIA card)
    c) Maybe a stylus. I've gotten very used to touchscreen on my Palm -- it's sorely missed on my GPSr for selecting items and text entry.
    d) Oh yeah, GPS receiver.

    (a), (c) and (d) are mainly price issues. (b) means they want you to keep paying to download over the phone lines.
    • the memory slot is probably a size issue(it's 87mm*78mm), and they probably had hard time figuring out howto stick a mmc slot into that(3650 and 6600 and ngage have mmc slots for cheap memory extensions)

      gotta run...
    • <Telephone> Bip Bip Beep Beep
      <Operator> The fingers you have used to dial are too fat. To order a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now.
  • by olivrwendl (465918) on Friday September 26, 2003 @10:59AM (#7063785)
    My dream phone is small, lightweight,and has a long battery life. Combining multiple features tkaes away from all three of these characteristics. Am I weird for wanting a phone that is just a phone?
  • Did anybody see anything about US availability? Looks like it is being released about every place but here.
  • Is it just me, or has Nokia topped itself in making the ugliest phones known to man? Good LORD, I wouldn't want to be caught with that thing as my communication's device. Ugh!
  • by Fnkmaster (89084) on Friday September 26, 2003 @11:13AM (#7063900)
    Sorry, but I want a cell phone with PDA capabilities, not a PDA with cell phone capabilities, and certainly not a weird square looking communicator device.


    By far my favorite so far is the Samsung SPH-i500 (see it here [cnet.com]), and it's upcoming successor, the SGH-i500, which will be the GSM version, with Palm OS 5 and other goodies.


    This is what I've been waiting for, for some time - a cell phone, with a Palm OS PDA built in, and complete integration between the two. You can manage one address book, click on your Palm address book and dial from there, search Zagat.com with a Palm web browser to find restaurants while walking the streets of New York, and pretty much do all the stuff I've always wanted to do with a PDA, but couldn't because it didn't have an internet connection, and getting one added on was too bulky/expensive, and browsing on your cell phone was waaaay too awkward for anything other than the simplest polling of your email to see any new subject lines, maybe reading a short email from a friend.


    The CNET reviews are definitely mixed, but I spent an hour or two playing with my friend's SPH-i500 and I'm totally hooked. Now I just need to convince myself to spend 600 bucks on it, after my last large PDA expenditure on a Clie that I use once every month or two.

    • Have a look at the Handspring Treo 600 [handspring.com]. This cellphone, with a palm (Palm5) build in, is getting some rave reviews (best of CeBit). I very much agree with you that the right combo is a cellphone with PDA capabilities and not the other way around. My single biggest issue with anything out there is the 'input capabilities'. I have still not come to terms with grafiti or any of it's siblings, and don't get me started on the alphanumeric input through a numeric keypad...thats just evil :-)

      Anyways, the handspri
      • The P800 has *excellent* handwriting recognition. I can knock out long text messages in seconds. I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't buy a P800. If for no other reason than PalmOS sucks and SymbianOS rules.
        • I use the P800 and I find its handwriting recognition a pain - longer strokes are needed than with Graffiti on Palm. It also crashes more than my Palm does, ironically enough - even though Symbian is a better OS for multi-tasking etc, it does seem to be possible for an app to take it down (Opera is particularly bad at this). I also sometimes have to reboot my P800 to get enough memory to launch Opera (I thought Symbian would automatically close processes if this happened).

          However, Opera on P800 is really
      • or if you don't like the $500 or so price tag thats going to tied to the Treo 600 (it's coming out first week in october), then check out the Treo 300, which now can be had for $100 in places. It's a Palm OS/phone. I've been using it for the last year and I love it. Of course I'm going to upgrade to the 600 as soon as it comes out :)
    • You might take alook at the Kyocera 7135 [kyocera-wireless.com]. It is a phone first, with PDA functionality. MP3 player too. And, unlike the Samsung i500, it has a Secure Digital card slot and speakerphone. Another cool feature is the pager style display on the top of the phone. It runs on Palm OS 4.1 and so far works great for me. Here is a review [pcmag.com] from PC Magazine.
  • by Eric_Cartman_South_P (594330) on Friday September 26, 2003 @11:17AM (#7063938)
    When a phone/watch/whatever can do what Keysuite v2.1 does on the Palm OS, wake me up and maybe I'll take a look. And no, basic calendar and todo list are NOT enough for people in the real world who make money with their time (sales, office execs, etc, especially sales and self employed people). Having contacts in multiple catagories, viewing all past/present/future activities and todos for a contact, associating contacts with referrals and companies, etc, all that makes the difference between making a sale and letting a prospect slip through the cracks. For homework and chillin' wit Yo 133t kewl crew, ok. But for professionals the cal and todo and contact list on cell phones, even the new combo phones, is a joke.

    For anyone who lives and dies by their palm, take a look at KeySuite. It blows everything else away. The sync NEVER fails and it can have as many cals, address books, and todo's as you want, even from public exchange folders! YES! MULTIPLE!

    PS. I am no shill. I just LOVE that program. And every time I hear that "SomethingXYZ(TM) can replace your palm!" I fear my time is being wasted by a reviewer who is younger than than Palm OS itself.

    • And no, basic calendar and todo list are NOT enough for people in the real world who make money with their time (sales, office execs, etc, especially sales and self employed people).

      Since I am self employed I probably qualify to craft a reply here.

      Even though I don't generally disagree with your notion on "all-in-ONE" the basic calendar in newer Nokias is an absolute killer feature and life saver.

      Why? I should urgently call Joe Dork tomorrow at precisely 10:29. Sure, I can add it to the callendar (with

  • by dabadab (126782) on Friday September 26, 2003 @11:19AM (#7063954)
    Well, I haven't seen much of a review on the site, but you can get the specs here: Nokia 7600 specs [nokia.com]

    Aside from the WCDMA support it does noto seem to offer much more than the 7650 or the 7250i (oh, 7250i doesn't have Bluetooth, and there's no radio in the 7600), so I don't get the bit about "Nokia's first attempt", it's just the next phone in Nokia's high-end line - nothing to get too excited about.
  • That wasn't a review. It was a press release.

    Interesting design. Looks like your typical skinned mp3 player :)
  • ...shit that thing is ugly.

    No amount of cool features and interoperability can make up for that fact that I'd rather be seen masturbating in public than holding this thing up to my face.

    BFL
  • by rf0 (159958)
    You hvae to wonder how long it will get use to being able to text fast on that keyboard layout. I'm not saying the classic layout is ideal but everyone knows where the keys are

    Rus
  • I know it's builled a review, but the language is more that of cheerleading or PR, with phrases like

    the latest mobile imaging features in a futuristic exterior.

    Taking Nokia design to a new level
    Enhancing the exclusive design of the Nokia 7600,
    The Nokia 7600 phone opens a new door to the world of multimedia communications.

    Even at the student newspaper I worked at phrases like that would get the reviewer hauled out and shot (metaphorically speaking).

    // begin cynicism

    Of course, this from a

  • Phone/PDA combos do one or the other really well, not both.

    If it's a PDA manufacturer that adds a phone, you end up with a great PDA and a sucky phone. And vice versa.

    As much as both phone and PDA manufacturers would like to marry these two products to make one less thing to carry, I'm convinced that from a mform factor & UI perspective that it will always be a trade-off. It's easier to just wear a jacket or vest for the extra pockets and carry both.

  • I am all for the revolution that merges all of these devices into one useful device that I just carry around with me.

    I enjoy carrying around my 3650 and being able to snap pictures all the time. They aren't super high 5 megapixel pictures, but I also don't carry my super high 5 megapixel camera with me all the time. It would be nice if the image quality for these babies reached 1 megapixel.

    This phone however suffers from some flaws that make it a bit unfriendly. The dialing interface is worse than that of
  • Reviewed my ass (Score:5, Informative)

    by EnglishTim (9662) on Friday September 26, 2003 @12:11PM (#7064431)
    That's not a review! That is quite literally a cut-and-paste from the Nokia press release!

    Here's [nokia.com] the original

    Here's [mobilemag.com] the copy.

    Spot the difference.

    If you look, they even include the asterisk from the Press Release, without copying the footnote it links to!
  • For those of you bitching about the 3650... don't worry, this 7600 is as available in the US (GSM 1900, remember?) as the 7650, the grown-up older brother of the 3650.

    Which is to say, we're not getting any of the better phones.

  • Has nobody said anything yet about the mention of AAC in the review? This is the first I've heard of any other device playing the same format that iPods play... Are there any other MP3 players that also play AAC? Will we see more AAC support cropping up, and faster than Ogg Vorbis support seems to be coming along? I hope so! (Well, I hope for more AAC support in other devices, I don't really care if it comes along faster than Vorbis support...)
  • ...but does that mean it can "Sync"??

    I'm looking into getting my first cell phone, but I want one that I'll be able to sync with my calendar, address book, etc... I don't care if it's not a full PDA - but if it has a calendar or whatnot built in to begin with, I want to be able to sync it.

    It seems that all the new phones only sync with the providers servers and there's no direct connection method... :-(

  • Nokia 7600 looks good but I am getting this one:
    Image1 [palminfocenter.com]
    Image2 [palminfocenter.com]
    Image3 [palminfocenter.com]
    Image4 [pdafrance.com]
    Image5
    Image6 [palminfocenter.com]
    A review [wsj.com]
    Click on screens to view all screens [treocentral.com]
  • We're almost there...with bluetooth interfaces to implanted cochlear implants [nih.gov], and to visual cortex direct neural simulation [nih.gov] stimulators, we can do away with the clumsy spinal taps with which Neo and friends have to put up.

    Now, if we can just figure out how to teach the damn things to be suspicious of new acquaintances [chronicle.com], we can beat the Borg via free-market alternatives to the one, monopolizing collective!
  • I think this looks pretty nice, actually - but where's the phone/pda that
    1. runs on free-as-in-source software
    2. has a GKOS-keyboard [gkos.com]?


    Especially the first point is what I'd be most interested in.
  • Nokia has made several mistakes with this phone. First of all, the most obvious thing is that it's _so_ ugly.

    Secondly, it's a UMTS phone, which could be a good think except Nokia doesn't think video chat is important.

    Third - Nokias track record when it comes to quality in their products sure as hell won't pursuade me buy this phone.

    No, Motorolas A920 is the way to go. It looks great.
  • This device looks really snazzy and I like the jewelry, but I'm pretty happy with my hiptop [hiptop.com], which now supports SSH [hipme.com] for free after this week's over-the-air firmware update [hiptop.com], and it has a full keyboard [amazon.com]. I've written a spreadsheet [flipsheet.com] and a peer-to-peer sharing app [hipme.com], hacked on an IRC app, and written some other stuff for it, all with their Java SDK.

Machines certainly can solve problems, store information, correlate, and play games -- but not with pleasure. -- Leo Rosten

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