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Hacking Esquire's E-ink Cover

Posted by kdawson on Mon Sep 08, 2008 07:50 PM
from the be-one-of-the-hundred-thousand dept.
ptorrone writes "I picked up the Esquire E-inked cover today and took a bunch of high res photos, for the makers out there. It has a programming header, 5-pin ISP, a Microchip PIC 12f629 which is flash programmable, 8 pin, 6 lithium coin cell CR2016s, 3 volts each. Two E-ink screens with flex connections — looks like it was made to be reprogrammed and different screens. The top screen has 11 segments, the bottom has 3. It was designed 2008-06-04. The PCB was made by Forewin, half thickness, 2 layer board (FR4). I think someone out there will likely reflash the PIC and make the segments go on / off at different times and perhaps put other displays on it, there's a little bit of hacking to be had but not that much really."
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  • by Aussenseiter (1241842) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:02PM (#24927333)
    I really need to stop mentally pronouncing it "E-squire".
  • by CitznFish (222446) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:09PM (#24927393) Homepage Journal

    who cares! until the magazine can read to me while I'm on the toilet, and answer my questions, or rebuttal my comments, I don't care how much technology goes into the cover.

    Then again if Playboy gets a digital cover that talks dirty to me then I have the option of recanting my previous statement.

  • what a waste (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheSHAD0W (258774) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:18PM (#24927461) Homepage

    Why are e-ink based e-books so expensive, while Esquire can afford to use it as a cover for their magazine? Something's missing here.

    • Re:what a waste (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 08 2008, @08:26PM (#24927525)

      My guess would be that this "screen" is not able to display arbitrary images, rather it can only display those images pre-burned onto the "e-ink". The PIC controller merely flips switches on and off at set time intervals or by button presses. Although interesting and indeed hackable, the hardware necessary to do this stuff is already quite cheap (something like $25 for a USB pickit 1 from Microchip.com).

      • Re:what a waste (Score:5, Informative)

        by MBCook (132727) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Monday September 08 2008, @08:35PM (#24927613) Homepage

        Right. The display is just like old Game & Watch games (or any other cheap LCD display). They have a bunch of segments (in this case mostly blocks of words) that can be turned on or off. I'd expect that just like LCDs the more segments you have the more expensive it is to manufacture the thing (not including the cost of controller).

        If you watch the little video that the Make blog post links to, you can see how limited it is.

        That said, it seems to refresh quite fast, which the e-books have problems with. I don't know if this is a consequence of the controller (I doubt it, Amazon/Sony would do better), the size of the pixels (smaller pixels switch slower for some reason, perhaps the small traces prevent higher current that can switch things faster), manufacturing (faster switching is too expensive to make an 800x600 screen), or just perception (since the elements are so large it's not noticeable like when you change small blocks of text).

    • by SuperBanana (662181) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:51PM (#24927747)

      Why are e-ink based e-books so expensive, while Esquire can afford to use it as a cover for their magazine? Something's missing here.

      11 very large segments versus 480,000 very small segments. PIC programed to go "turn on segment 1, then 2, then 3. Pause. Switch all them off. Repeat"...versus "fully fledged operating system and electronic document presentation system."

      Oh yes, and Equire printed roughly 233,300 of them (one in three of their circulation of 700,000) in one go. That's roughly equal to the 240,000 Kindle units Amazon has supposedly sold in about 10 months.

      Still, the biggie is the simplicity...

  • by Bananatree3 (872975) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:49PM (#24927729)
    Esquire welcomes hackers [esquire.com]

    Greetings hackers: Esquire's special E-Ink cover includes two flexible displays that should last for a few months. But the flashing could last longer if you want to try to replace the embedded batteries or find other sources of power. If you come up with inventive ways to extend the power or to hack the circuit board, displays, or the E Ink technology itself, let us know by sending an email to editor@esquire.com and we'll post your results here on Esquire.com. We should tell you, it's not easy and requires some expertise... but you're pretty clever, right? Show us something we don't know.

  • <blink>? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Hurricane78 (562437) <navid.zamani@goo ... minus physicist> on Monday September 08 2008, @08:50PM (#24927735)

    Great. The <blink> tag made it to real life!

    Why?? Whyyyyyyyy........??? ;)

  • Adn so it begins... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jmorris42 (1458) * <jmorris@bea[ ]rg ['u.o' in gap]> on Monday September 08 2008, @10:00PM (#24928255) Homepage

    Yes this first feeble attempt is fairly lame, a few segments that will burn out in a couple of months and took a fair investment in hardware to pull off. But it won't end here.

    Soon they will put solar collectors on the things to keep it going indefinately, add more segments, etc. Hell, it won't be a generation before they are printing complex enough circuits on the damned things that they will be doing full motion video. On cereal boxes. Or having generic advertising, think shopping carts, seatbacks, etc updating their ad copy over slow radio links. And they already know how to make flat paper speakers so they damned things will be talking whenever somebody is in range.

    • by CaptainPatent (1087643) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:14PM (#24927429) Journal

      if someone went and re-flashed all the controllers in the Esquire mags to display porn (first thing that comes to mind is Goatse) instead of the original content?

      Um, then it would display goatse.

    • by MattGWU (86623) * on Monday September 08 2008, @08:17PM (#24927455)

      I don't get it. What do YOU think will happen?

      All I can see is a company gets a black eye, blames the whole thing on 'those evil hackers', and sends a potentially cool technology away forever.

      And if the first thing you think of when you think of porn is 'Goatse', man, I'm sorry.

    • Re:What would happen (Score:5, Informative)

      by MBCook (132727) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Monday September 08 2008, @08:30PM (#24927565) Homepage
      It's impossible. These E-ink displays aren't pixel displays (which could show any image), they are segment based (like a cheap calculator, watch, or old LCD game). They can only display what they have been designed to show. Your only choices are for each segment to be dark or light.
        • Re:What would happen (Score:5, Interesting)

          by cgenman (325138) on Monday September 08 2008, @10:24PM (#24928415) Homepage

          A pixel is just a very small, very square segment. I believe what the grandparent poster is trying to say is that this particular e-ink display is heavily segment based, and proposition supported by how it is being used in the cover and how cheap it is to make.

          The cheap calculator displays are mostly LCD, which power both high end pixel-driven displays and the videogames that come free with your Happy Meal. This particular implementation of the technology appears to fall to the latter.

          Hence, it would be nearly impossible to display anything other than what is currently on the cover without rebuilding the e-ink sheet. In this particular case, we're all winners.

    • Re:What would happen (Score:5, Informative)

      by TheUser0x58 (733947) on Monday September 08 2008, @08:36PM (#24927625) Homepage
      Not possible. While e-ink is sometimes used for general purpose displays (Amazon Kindle), for specialized applications its much cheaper if the e-ink can only represent compositions of static images in fixed positions, toggled on or off. Kind of like the difference between a modern LCD monitor and the LCD on a Nintendo Game & Watch-type game.
    • by dr_dank (472072) on Monday September 08 2008, @09:30PM (#24928061) Homepage Journal

      Then a bunch of artsy fashionistas would parade around saying that gaping anus is the new black.

      • by i.r.id10t (595143) on Monday September 08 2008, @09:39PM (#24928131)

        Until they are programmable enough.

        When I was in middle school, our typing teacher gave repetitive exercises like that, to do at home or in lab. I happened to have a daisy wheel printer at home for my TRS-80 (m4, 32k and 2 drives!), which was basically a - you guessed it! - typewriter.

        A for-next loop and homework was done... even trimmed the edges so the perforation marks wouldn't be there to tip her off....