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Robots Entering Daily Life in Japan 164

USA Today is running a story about the emergence of robots in common aspects of life in Japan. Many simple yet social jobs are being filled by robots of increasing sophistication. The article suggests that Japanese culture is more open to such interaction than the majority of other cultures. Quoting: "For Japan, the robotics revolution is an imperative. With more than a fifth of the population 65 or older, the country is banking on robots to replenish the workforce and care for the elderly. The government estimates the industry could surge from about $5.2 billion in 2006 to $26 billion in 2010 and nearly $70 billion by 2025. Besides financial and technological power, the robot wave is favored by the Japanese mind-set as well. Robots have long been portrayed as friendly helpers in Japanese popular culture, a far cry from the often rebellious and violent machines that often inhabit Western science fiction."
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  • Robots are here (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BWJones ( 18351 ) * on Sunday March 02, 2008 @10:56AM (#22615646) Homepage Journal
    Last time I was in Japan [utah.edu], (scroll down for the robot) progress in the Toyota Partner Robot development was truly impressive. They have amazingly smooth, articulated motions, can walk with close to natural gaits and can climb stairs. Robots, whether fully autonomous or semi-autonomous are here to stay in rolls from support like the ones being developed in Japan or for defense/warfare applications like I saw on my recent visit to Creech AFB [utah.edu]. I gotta say though, that this robot [pinktentacle.com] has got to be one of my favorites and this robot [gizmodo.com] has got to be one of the creepiest.

  • Tentacles (Score:5, Funny)

    by Gothmolly ( 148874 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:03AM (#22615686)
    But do they have the necessary tentacles for normal, healthy Japanese sex?
  • by MyNameIsFred ( 543994 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:08AM (#22615712)

    ...a far cry from the often rebellious and violent machines that often inhabit Western science fiction...
    This type of statement is frequently used to explain this is why Western society doesn't embrace robots. In my view, this has very little to do with it. Western societies don't embrace robots because most forms of automated interaction have been vastly annoying. Who doesn't love calling a company and getting "Press 3 for customer service" and going thru ten menus before getting a human who can actually help. Who doesn't love help systems on computers that try to figure out what you're doing and help you. "It looks like you're trying to write a letter, may I help?" No! Just stop annoying me. How about voice recognition systems that are iffy at best. No I did not say "Got my first real sex dream, I was 5 at the time." I said, "Got my first real six string, bought it at the five-and-dime." The list goes no. Once more user friendly systems are developed I have no doubt that robots and similar systems will be widely accepted.
    • by garett_spencley ( 193892 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:22AM (#22615770) Journal
      I think there is also a fear that robots (like other forms of automation in the past) will slowly "steal" people's jobs.
      • by bluehairedpete ( 1166185 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @01:05PM (#22616318)
        Also, in America we already have a large supply of cheap, exploitable labor via illegal Mexican immigrants. Japan's much stiffer immigration laws don't allow for this. As long as robots cost more than 5 bucks an hour, they will never make a dent in America.
      • But we're quite happy to tax human work.
         
        • The day we start taxing robots is the day we start paying them. Until then, enjoy the non-sentient slave labour.
      • Meet George Jetson (Score:3, Insightful)

        by bussdriver ( 620565 )
        A cartoon for kids; the Flitnstones of the future helped promote robots and bring up issues to vast numbers of children in the west.

        Jetson's job: To press a button and turn on the computer everyday.

        Sometimes Jetson helps the computer make a decision, but one never gets the impression the computer actually needs his help; its like it is humoring him.

        Jobs in that future world have been reduced to repair, office politics (including corporate espionage,) meaningless filler positions (like those created for a re
      • by Not_Wiggins ( 686627 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @02:24PM (#22616782) Journal
        More likely it is because the West (VERY specifically America) is a litigious society; before any company would introduce autonomous machinery (beyond the most basic that we have today) into the everyday life of Americans, they need to be darn sure that it won't kill/mame/hurt/offend anyone lest they be sued out of existence.

        FP had an excellent link to a snowplowing robot. How long do you think that would be in operation before some kid threw himself under it and the place using the robot to clean the parking lot and the manufacturer of the robot got sued?
      • by Yvanhoe ( 564877 )
        I think this is the true reason, indeed. In the West, the general consensus is that the goal of the technological progress is to improve the society but in Japan, I really had the feeling that the technological progress was the goal and the betterment of society, just a tool or a side effect.

        William Gibson had an interesting take on this. For him, Japan is a future-shocked country. Since the end of world war II, the collective subconscious there is convinced that being at the technological edge is a quest
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by ScrewMaster ( 602015 )
      I tend to agree ... and it's not as if Japanese pop culture isn't filled with rebellious and violent material too, machines included. And there've been plenty of Western books and movies that have portrayed robots in a very positive light.

      We also haven't embraced robots in the industrial sector to the extent that the Japanese have, and much of that has to do with the perception of them as human replacements, not because they're rebellious and violent. Honestly, it's the humans that often get rebellious a
      • So that must mean All Americans suck because they want to put food on the table through hard work instead of have a utopian society.
    • by HornWumpus ( 783565 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:57AM (#22615950)

      If Japan had a Mexico on its southern borders they wouldn't be working on robots so much ether.

      Give NAFTA another ten years and we will need robots for lots of stoop work as well. It's already starting with crop work (Grape harvesting is switching over to robots as we speak).

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by couchslug ( 175151 )
        Machines are great for removing the need for stoop labor and the suffering that goes with it.

        Note how efficient coal mining has become. Instead of many peons with picks and shovels (and a miner death rate like Chinas) we have a few skilled workers and many machines for both open and underground mining. There is every reason to remove people from the job except as supervisors.
      • Comment removed based on user account deletion
      • by tsotha ( 720379 )

        This is silly. Japan doesn't have Mexico, but they do have China, the Philippines, and Indonesia, which together have ten times the population of Mexico and far less money per capita.

        The Japanese don't have immigrants because they don't want immigrants, whereas the US contains powerful business and social interests intent on as much immigration as possible.

      • If Japan had a Mexico on its southern borders they wouldn't be working on robots so much ether.
        While having a large land border is certainly conducive to immigration, there's plenty of low-cost labor in Japan's region of the world. You know, all those guys who make our sneakers and ipods and walmart stockables. But Japan has made a choice as a society to impose strict immigration restrictions to keep them out of their country. It's not an accident.
    • by vertinox ( 846076 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @12:06PM (#22616006)
      This type of statement is frequently used to explain this is why Western society doesn't embrace robots.

      It also might explain why western robots in development usually have guns on them. I mean iRobot is the most popular robotics company in the USA but most of their money comes from military contracts and not consumer sales.
    • by jcnnghm ( 538570 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @12:31PM (#22616124)
      But if you look at actual robots, like the Roomba, you can see they're pretty readily embraced. I have both a Roomba and a Scooba, and I couldn't be happier with them. I was extremely skeptical when I got the Roomba, but I thought for $149 I could at least try it. Sit it down, press the button, go to work, come home to a clean floor, it doesn't get any easier. I know of at least 4 people that have bought these robots after I did, once they saw mine in action.

      I think that people, as you were saying, are more concerned that the robots won't work well, than that they are dangerous. Once they know somebody with one or see one in action, it becomes a no brainer.
    • by m0llusk ( 789903 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @01:34PM (#22616508) Journal

      In America or Europe if a worker no longer serves the bottom line they are likely to be quickly discarded. Though they might seek other positions in the company, even training is likely to be their responsibility to have in order in advance. From hiring to firing the relationship will lack compassion and no one bows. Similar rules extend to family where a historically extreme level of independence is becoming the norm. People must find a way for themselves to get by.

      In Japan employees or relations might find their roles changing to respond to circumstance, but leaving the group is typically a last resort. There from meeting to parting everyone bows to each other. People must find a place for themselves in a group.

      In typical American or European conditions robots embody the cold displacement that all must fear. Robots become implacable competitors in almost any setting. Japanese social networks welcome the robots in part because they do not suffer the same endemic fear of rejection and displacement. Robots are suited to tasks that are difficult or not valued enough for people, so they are easily seen as cooperative.

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )
      Western societies don't embrace robots because most forms of automated interaction have been vastly annoying...."It looks like you're trying to write a letter, may I help?" No! Just stop annoying me.

      But one advantage of robots is that you can beat the living shit out of them [youtube.com] when they annoy you. Do that with a human, and get locked up. Do it with a robot and you're merely out a satisfying $500.
    • That's a generational issue -- I'd rather deal with a few levels of menus than have to explain to five people in a row what my problem with, each time being forwarded to a different department.
    • Note that Japan has an extremely rigid social structure - and that asking for help or accepting assistance from others is often problematic.

      In a culture like this robots are most likely less stressful assistants than in the west.
    • by Yvanhoe ( 564877 )
      Automated interaction and robotics are two different things.
  • Children of Men (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Thagg ( 9904 ) <thadbeier@gmail.com> on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:08AM (#22615718) Journal
    I thought the most thought provoking movie of last year was Children of Men, about the collapse of society when there are no more children. It was one of those movies where a simple premise is carried to the logical extreme, and it's more than a little depressing.

    But, coincidentally, the next day I saw a demonstration of ASIMO, Honda's self-contained little robot -- and it resonated so well with the movie that it's hard to believe in coincidence anymore.

    The Japanese are already living in that Children of Men world, their birthrate is shockingly low, and they have almost no immigration, so the population is shrinking quickly, especially of young people.

    So, what do the Japanese do? Rather than despair (as they did in England, in the movie) they just build a generation of robots...

    Simplistic, I know.
    • by Scaba ( 183684 )

      Clearly, they're in denial about the dangers robots pose [robotmarketplace.com] towards old people.

    • Re:Children of Men (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ucblockhead ( 63650 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @12:35PM (#22616160) Homepage Journal
      There's a huge difference between few children and no children. The England of the book was despairing because the people new that with no children at all, there was no future and that those alive were just marking time until the eventual death of civilization. Very different for Japan, where there's every reason to expect that Japan will be a major world player for the next 100 years, 200 years, who knows how long? With 135 million people crammed in a country the size of the Japanese mainland, a drop in the population over time may actually improve matters for the people living there and the country as a whole.

      Anyway, the point is that "Children of Men" wasn't about low birth rate. It is about being forced to confront your civilization having no future, and your life having no meaning.
      • Anyway, the point is that "Children of Men" wasn't about low birth rate. It is about being forced to confront your civilization having no future, and your life having no meaning.

        Arguably that premise is horribly flawed. If one takes a view as an atheist, when you die you don't exist so it doesn't really matter if humanity survives one year without you or a billion because having children does not give you immortality as far as existing goes. If one takes a religious view on life, humanity surviving is a moo
        • Children of Men wasn't about the logic of the situation. It was about the psychology of how most people would react.
          • Hell, just enjoy the cinematography. It has some truly incredible continuous-shot scenes, regardless of what you think of the rest of the movie.
  • by Subm ( 79417 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:23AM (#22615776)
    A lot of people worry about the risk of robots taking over, like they'll start running the world as robotic overlords.

    Not a problem. If anything goes wrong, just set off a nuclear weapon in the bay. The giant lizards and flying turtles will solve everything.

    The robots seem powerful, but once they've shot off all the missiles that are their fingers, they're mostly harmless.
  • by El Lobo ( 994537 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:34AM (#22615840)
    Yes, people seem to be afraid of **androids***(robots with a human shape), but seem to naturally accept other kind of robots. Hmm... let me see: trafic lights, alarm clocks, car soldering machines, etc are more or less complicated robots.

    Interesting, but in Korea, years ago, there was an experiment when trafic lights (or semaphores, whatever) were substituted by an android (a robot police man, showing some Stop and Go signals). The results were very negative. The respect that traficants normally have for ordinary trafic lights was sometimes nearly gone when the android was used... Fear? Disrespect? Whatever...

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by schnikies79 ( 788746 )
      I can't find the link at the moment, but I remember a study where humans generally find almost human-like characters revolting. I believe it came out at about the same time as "The Polar Express." I know many people who said the faces were just too creepy and they couldn't watch it.

      It was something along the lines of the brain treating it like a horridly disfigured person.
  • Four words (Score:4, Funny)

    by call-me-kenneth ( 1249496 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @11:57AM (#22615956)
    Crush the fleshy ones!
  • I may be a bit cynical but I think the main reason robots haven't caught on in a lot of places outside of Japan is because our birth rates are still good. I've seen the videos of the robot nurse, and the robotic home care worker. It's extremely off putting. These are jobs in every other country humans are doing. And there's a thousand reasons why humans should always do jobs like that. Same goes for any other job that humans normally do. If they don't have people to replace the existing work force they shou
    • How would you make them have more kids? Turn them into Mormons? I'm sure they're having plenty of sex, they're also having plenty of birth control applications.

      "I mean it's not like making more humans is any sort of chore." Huh? Yes, having sex isn't a chore. How about raising a kid for 17, nay, 22 years? Sound like fun? Scarcely anyone has kids intentionally nowadays excepting followers of certain Middle Eastern religions and racists. Not many Muslims or Christians in Japan, but a significant chunk
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by gullevek ( 174152 )
        thats not true, there is just a small group ho is "ethnocentric". I live here for more than fives years and have not yet had direct contact with any of those "ethnocentric" groups. all Japs I met were absolutely friendly and open to foreigners.

        Do you also believe all Germans are Nazis, all Muslims are Terrorists and all Americans are just fat and dumb?
    • "I mean it's not like making more humans is any sort of chore."

      Raising them for 18 years is a huge chore, which involves subordinating your life to theirs.
      No thanks!
    • Don't worry. There will be plenty of jobs for humans once the robots start going crazy.
    • Humans to do dishwashing, like humans normally do.
      Humans to do laundry, like humans normally do.
      Humans to build fires, like humans normally do.
      Humans to connect phone calls, like humans normally do.
      Humans to review every credit card charge being made and check for fraud in real time, like humans normally do.
      Humans to lift construction materials to the 35th floor of buildings, like humans normally do.
      Humans to drive in rail spikes, like humans normally do. OK, I lied, I have heard that one. The human in qu
      • Jeez. I completely forgot the lynch pin to this argument.
        If all the Japanese people stop making more Japanese people there will be NO MORE ANIME!!

        But seriously.

        You have to consider that Japan can build an endless army of robot nursing home care workers, but if they don't make more people then there will effectively be no more Japan. I don't see how you people are opposed to the concept of perpetuating the human race by the means of reproduction.
    • It's not like the human population isn't putting strains on the world's resources, either.
  • Now there has to be a ministry in charge of Gundam!
  • by freedom_india ( 780002 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @01:00PM (#22616294) Homepage Journal
    The extremes to which Japan goes to avoid importing foreigners speaks of its paranoia and deep hatred of non-japanese.
    No other society would spend so much money and effort to build Robots to replace an ageing population.
    Not even Germany is such introverted or had so much hatred in-built.

    I remember reading somewhere:
    1. France is the country with most restrictive laws on migration, yet is most lenient when it comes to accomodating foreigners.
    2. Japan has the most open laws in books to allow migration, yet its officialdom is the most restrictive in implementing it.

    Probably because unlike Reich, the Imperial Japanese military never was defeated wholly in their heartland. Instead they surrendered voluntarily thus allowing them to keep their introverted practices.

    Japan still has shops, stores, etc., that do not service foreigners (especially the adult shops as my friend can testify).
    And they STILL do not speak English beyond Tokyo.

    I welcome the slow decline and ultimate disappearance of japanese society as a whole.
    • I see all the anti-Japanese comments on this post, and it makes me wonder whether the Japanese are wrong to be wary of foreigners...

      I find it sad that you take not speaking English as some kind of black mark. You'll find that most Americans and British people speak nothing other than their own language. Why should the Japanese, if they would rather not? Other countries are not there simply to service the needs of English-speaking tourists, and if you'd ever seen what a group of Englishmen in a sex shop looks like, you might sympathise with the Japanese for wanting to keep them out!
      • by crossmr ( 957846 )
        They should be wary of foreigners.

        Some people hold the US up as a model of immigration but I see them quickly shutting their doors. Sure you can move there as a foreigner, but the people already living there will treat you like garbage. They might not let you in their sex shops, but they probably don't harass you up and down the streets and hurl insults at you, racism is still alive and well in the US, especially if you have an accent. I can tell you which one of those I think is worse.

        Luckily for some tour
        • by freedom_india ( 780002 ) on Monday March 03, 2008 @12:07AM (#22620584) Homepage Journal

          racism is still alive and well in the US, especially if you have an accent
          WRONG ! WRONG !
          I have been to large cities (Boston, Hartford, NYC, SF) in US, worked there, and also stayed in small towns (Keene[NH], New Britain[CT], MA, TX) etc.
          Not ONCE did i find even a trace of racism being shown by anybody (from my co-workers to the cops who stopped me because one of my headlights was not working).
          The only time i was shouted upon was at the DMV in New Britain, CT when my hearing was bad due to a cold when they called out my last name for license. (i use first name and last name never entered my mind).
          Not just officialdom: I have chatted with my taxi driver (a college student) everyday (Keene, NH), discussed movies (The Village was a bad movie) with Stop&Shop clerks (cashing a TC), long discussion with cops (lost my way and stopped a cop-:)) on best ways to avoid a ticket, Museum curators on whether Edison would be crucified if born today, etc.
          I have also attended bachelor parties, SOX games, etc., with my hosts one time.

          In fact, i prefer US more than i prefer Australia (which is to say a lot).

          The model in US is simple: You are considered good and trusted unless you prove otherwise. If you do not betray the trust or work hard enough, Americans trust you more than others.
          Of course if you screw up, you don't get a second chance. Which is acceptable.

          In Japan, even if you are twice as good as they are (Am good in software design: Twice as good as any japanese.) they neither treat you as a human nor treat you like one of the boys.
          • by crossmr ( 957846 )

            I have a ton of foreign friends studying in the US. They all tell me the same thing. Nothing but random racism. Towards them and their friends, other foreign classmates, etc Your experience isn't indicative of the norm as far as I can tell.

            • random racism
              What the hell does that mean?
              Random Racism Is that even a word?
              If your friends think hazing is racism, then they obviously haven't studied in Germany or Japan.

              • by crossmr ( 957846 )
                Random racism would be racism that has no purpose. Just hurled at anyone who is different.
                maybe you make too many assumptions. Your experience isn't the norm, nor is the US as shiny and wonderful as you want to hold it up to be.
          • Am good in software design: Twice as good as any japanese.
            If this is your attitude, I wouldn't expect people in Japan to treat you very well.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by kamapuaa ( 555446 )
        Everything the guy was saying was, in fact, pretty much on-point. And frankly it is a little strange for a country where the economy is so thoroughly dependent on exports to be so throughly bad at English. It's not English-language chauvinism, it's just the way the modern world economy works.

        Japan will also claim hotels are full when they're obviously not, policemen give passport checks to foreigners just walking down the street - I live in China and would never claim it's an immigrant paradise, but peo

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          policemen give passport checks to foreigners just walking down the street

          Exactly what happened to my friend's son at School.
          US cops may use Tasers, but they treat all people the same.
          Japanese have a siege mentality. They think if they let the guard down even once, the world's population would swamp them.
          The world "alien" in japanese also is a bad word.

          I live in China and would never claim it's an immigrant paradise, but people's attitudes and the government's implemented policies are far, far more accommodating than Japan's

          True. I visited china last year when my bank sent me for training.
          I found them far more accomodating. I appreciated their culture, visited their museums, and generally found them polite and nice, although their English accent is

    • by tsotha ( 720379 )

      I don't know why attempts to preserve one's own culture are seen by others as "paranoia and deep hatred of foreigners". Does the fact I lock my door at night speak of my "paranoia and deep hatred" of people who don't live in my house?

      It seems pretty reasonable to me Japanese people would want to speak the Japanese language. To have some predictability in relations with other people due to a common culture.

      Personally, I think future generations of Americans and Europeans will curse this generation for sa

      • I don't know why attempts to preserve one's own culture are seen by others as "paranoia and deep hatred of foreigners".

        No. But when shopkeepers drive you away from their shops, and school children keep poking to make sure your son too is a human being does.

        It seems pretty reasonable to me Japanese people would want to speak the Japanese language

        It goes beyond that. Imagine a culture which teaches (still!) that japanese are human beings and others are Untermenchen. Yeah, japan's schools still teach it.

        Kudos to the Japanese for rejecting the great stupidity of our age.

        The joke is on them. In 100 years, the whole country would be ruled by robots.

        • by tsotha ( 720379 )

          No. But when shopkeepers drive you away from their shops, and school children keep poking to make sure your son too is a human being does.

          I've had many (caucasian) friends go to Japan, and none of them reported the problems you describe. Do you have three eyes or something?

          The joke is on them. In 100 years, the whole country would be ruled by robots.

          I doubt it. It doesn't take long for a detemined subpopulation to tip the demographic scales back in the positive direction. A Mormon friend of mine had mo

    • For some reason, you have been modded troll, but I can't see why. Japan is rarely critizised in the west, but this is one of the points where it deserves critique. If Japan keeps up with this attitude, they will eventually be overtaken by more progressive countries. I can't say I welcome the slow decline of japanese society, but I definately forsee it. Amazingly, they Japanese also seem to do this, but they turn to robot instead of the obvious and simple solution.
    • How does this racist crap get modded up? Troll are supposed to be modded down.
      • racist crap
        Have you ever been to Japan?
        Have you ever tried to be friends with a Japanese family?
        Try that and then come back to slashdot.
        • So all Japanese are exactly the same? And your customs are better then theirs? Perhaps it's you who is wrong with your lack of respect for other peoples way of life? In my experience, people who can't stand other people's culture usually do it because they have their own personal problems, and other cultures -- especially when not understood properly -- bring out their insecurities. This often develops in to racism. The fact that you are in denial about it just seems to confirm it.

          One thing is for sure, I'm
  • by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @01:03PM (#22616308) Journal
    screwing itself. Look, America, and shortly European, jobs have migrated to China. Why? Because they have the yuan tied to the dollar. If we had a president with backbone, they would do something about it. It remains to be seen what will happen with the next one.

    But in the mean time, the west would do well to create loads of automated jobs. It would also help solve such issues as illegal aliens in America. But the only way to go back to creating wealth here is to have honest cheap energy and automation on construction, agriculture and manufactuering. And that is VERY needed by EU as well as Canada.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Fëanáro ( 130986 )

      Look, America, and shortly European, jobs have migrated to China. Why? Because they have the yuan tied to the dollar. If we had a president with backbone, they would do something about it.

      Dude, it is their currency, they can tie it to whatever arbitrary value they want. What is a president to do, tie the dollar to half the value of the yuan in revenge? Or double the value? Or simply invade?
      • Dude, the dollar is our currency. We simply say that MFN is off. Once that changes, then no matter what the chinese do, we can put the clamps down further. It is far better that if we are going to trade that it be on even ground.

        As to the dollar-yuan, china is the ONLY large country that does not allow their currency to trade freely. Right now, it is about 7 yuans to the dollar. If they allowed true free trade, then it would drop to about 2 yuans / dollar. But the important one is that all other currencies
        • What a country does with its currency is their business. The US would have been rightly upset if another country had forced them to abandon the gold standard when they had it, or forced them to keep it when they abandoned it. The US government did what they thougth was best for them, and so does china.

          So if china says the yuan is worth the same as 7 dollars, or 3 pesos, or 10 bananas, and if they have to means to guarantee that value, that is their right, and it does not matter whether the dollar is "your"
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by WindBourne ( 631190 )
            It is real simple. If china wants to peg it to ours so that it undercuts true free trade, then we should simply quite trading. It will hurt for a bit of time, but I believe that we will find other nations that are better suited to this. In particular, Mexico has true free trade, and even India is mostly there (they play games to get jobs located there, but the money is freely traded).

            Actually, W. does not share my attitude. He would have done something about it. Fortunately, Obama and McCain both share it
            • It would also help a large number of latin countries since most are using the dollar or pegged to the dollar.

              So it is ok for them to do so, but not for China?

              China might as well turn back the blame and claim the US is actively keeping the dollar in free-fall to undercut trade with the rest of the world.

              And of course all this would not even be an issue if the dollar was not falling like a rock.
              • So, far, you have done nothing but say that it is ok for china to do this, but you really do not answer real quesitons. You seem to feel that it is ok for China to tie their money to ours and prevent us from competing? Why should we not have the right to do the same to China or to simply say no more trading with China until they free up the exchange rate? In small nations, tying of the money to us is not a big deal. But it becomes a big deal when the nation is much bigger then us and prevent us from real co
                • So, far, you have done nothing but say that it is ok for china to do this, but you really do not answer real quesitons.

                  No, that is a misunderstanding. My main point is this: I said it is ok for china to do whatever they want with their currency because it is their currency. The last part is important. What would you say if an european president with a backbone intended to "do something" about the falling dollar?

                  You seem to feel that it is ok for China to tie their money to ours and prevent us from competin


  • http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/18/dalek_fcs_uav_ducted_fan_war_robot/ [theregister.co.uk]

    http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9757072-7.html [news.com]

    But perhaps that's better than being poisoned by chinese robots.

    Bert
  • Bad Idea (Score:3, Funny)

    by Jubetas ( 917500 ) on Sunday March 02, 2008 @01:18PM (#22616400)
    banking on robots to replenish the workforce and care for the elderly. I think we all know that the robots will simply attack the people they're supposed to be caring for to steal their precious medicine and fuel their enraged power cells.
  • I recall when answering machines first appeared. People absolutely hated them. I had a number of friends who'd refuse to leave a message on one, yet, in 5 years, every one of them had an answering machine themselves. I think the tipping point came when people couldn't get thru and, annoyed, started asking them why they didn't have a machine.

    When technologies like this hit a certain level of saturation, people adopt them or end up being cultural pariahs, and I think robots will be no different.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by hitmark ( 640295 )
      meh, just get a mobile phone that shows unanswered numbers (or whatever name its attached to in contacts).

      i still just hang up if i hit a answering machine, as more often then not the only message for it to deliver is "call me"...
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Stiletto ( 12066 )
      I think the acceptance of answering machines has more to do with society's growing narcissistic belief that you must be "reachable" at all times.

      I, for one, do not have an answering machine or use voice mail, and I generally won't leave a message for someone if the call doesn't go thorough.
  • " Robots have long been portrayed as friendly helpers in Japanese popular culture, a far cry from the often rebellious and violent machines that often inhabit Western science fiction."

    isn't it a prerequisite for every anime every made to contain some kind of giant fighting robot?
  • The USA has robot-tanks that can drive through cities without flattening buildings. The USA has "smart planes or bombs" that can supposedly kill the bad guy in one bedroom without hurting the people in the adjacent bedroom.

    "Make war, not love"
    • by HiThere ( 15173 )
      And if you believe that "pin point precision" PR, I've got a bridge you might be interested in...
  • In the form of Roujin Z [animefu.com].
  • Oh yes. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by lewp ( 95638 ) on Monday March 03, 2008 @01:21AM (#22621012) Journal

    "People are still asking whether people really want robots running around their homes, and folding their clothes," said Damian Thong, senior technology analyst at Macquarie Bank in Tokyo.

    I think I speak for most of the audience of this website when I say "ever since I was six."

  • Not all Western SciFi robots are Terminators[tm]. I'm quite fond, for example, of Internet authors Elf Sternberg and DB_Story, who present quite a different view of our relationships with the coming generations of robots. And considering the already published books and articles on the topic on Sex with Robots, I remain continually surprised that neither of these authors are, as of yet, mainstream published authors. SF always has been about pushing against the boundaries, yet sex seems to be the one bound
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