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Terabyte DVD Recorder Available Next Month 246
It doesn't come easy writes "Japan's Hitachi Ltd. on Wednesday unveiled the world's first hard disk drive/DVD recorder that can store one terabyte of data, or enough to record about 128 hours of high-definition digital broadcasting."
"1 TB (Score:4, Funny)
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Just for the sake of someone finally saying this and being right:
10^10^10 bytes should be enough for anyone.
Anyone care to argue?
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
(10^10)^10
or
10^(10^10)
?
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Plankt time and discrete infinitessimals. (Score:2)
Re:Plankt time and discrete infinitessimals. (Score:2)
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Re:"1 TB (Score:3, Funny)
SCNR
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Anyone care to argue?
You obviously don't know about the size of my p0rn collection.
If I get 2, I should have enough for backing up my entire p0rn collection and the 0.5MB of important documents I have.
Re:"1 TB (Score:2, Insightful)
Isn't entertainment so troublesome? I mean, we could have such fulfilling lives if civilization wasn't being constantly rammed down our throats.
Re:"1 TB (Score:5, Funny)
Civilisation? I thought we were talking about television.
huh? (Score:2)
I don't bother to watch the shows I don't like because I don't like them.
I am such a bastard; it is like I am stealing ad revenue from the selfless TV executives.
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
I can pause live tv now. I can look for shows by name, not just by index markers (that incidentally take 30 seconds or so to cue on tape - if you're lucky...) I can record more than one show at a time, since I have 2 tuners (family guy and criminal intent are on at the same time).
I stuck with a VCR for quite some time, but now, I can watch what I want, when I want. I can even burn the shows
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Yes, I love my PVR too.
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
There's a rant somewhere about the staggering number of people who think that they need a
Re:"1 TB (Score:2)
Now... (Score:4, Insightful)
Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (Score:2)
Take an average DVD recorder, add more harddisk space and this is what you get.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you could do just that on many DVD recorders, since 500GB harddisks are readily available.
Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (Score:2, Insightful)
Not only does it not write 1TB to a DVD recorder, it doesn't even write it to a hard drive:
So what are we talking about here, two hard drives plus a standard DVD recorder all integrated into one unit for a little over US$2,000!? Jesus, I think I'd rather just buy two hard drives [newegg.com] and a DVD recorder [newegg.com] (dual-layer, of course) for les
Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (Score:2)
The fact that you could build one for $1200 is moot. If you wanted this functionality you'd have built a quiet PC to do this. This unit is aimed at those who don't have the time or inclination to do such a thing, and as it is a t
Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why would anybody buy this for "HD" content when they can't take the HD content off of the device without downscaling it out of HD? Now if this came with a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD burner, it would make sense. Guaranteed they'll have a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD model of this out within 6-8 months.
Re:Ain't exactly a "1Tbyte dvd recorder", is it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Here's a guess--to record HD content onto their DVR. Since the box will be hooked up to their HD player, why would they want to record to media anyway?
Another misleading claim: (Score:2)
Pointing out the bad obviously math (Score:2, Informative)
When actually:
One Terabyte = 1099511627776 bytes of data
One Gigabyte = 1073741824 bytes of data
One Megabyte = 1048576 bytes of data
One Kilobyte = 1024 bytes of data
So what you have here is a 0.91Tb drive not a 1Tb drive as advertised.
If memory serves this whole 1Mb=1,000,000 bytes thing was started by Maxtor in the 90s to make their drives look bigger than the competition. This kind of math may be easier, but it's stil
Re:Pointing out the bad obviously math (Score:2)
sorry dude, the computer geeks broke this one. kilo is 10^3, mega is 10^6, and giga is 10^9. We stole the prefixes and slapped them on 2^10, 2^20, 2^30, etc. Any ambiguity is our fault.
Meh (Score:5, Insightful)
It's an ordinary DVD recorder with a largish amount of disk in it.
And here I was thinking that it can write a terabyte to a optical disk. Oh well...
Re:Meh (Score:2)
Re:Meh (Score:3, Funny)
Now with our over-priced 'two hard disks and a standard DVD recorder' we confidently predict that we will hold at least 2.5 percent by next year.
And its an expensive TB (Score:2)
I ain't thrilled...
Wow! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wow! (Score:3, Funny)
Media (Score:3, Insightful)
The article pointed out that the US market seems more interested in DVRs, than DVD Recorders and I agree with that assessment. Most of the TV I record is throw-away stuff that I want to watch for a couple times and then delete.
Re:Media (Score:3, Informative)
It takes normal DVD's - and so not that much, since you can get a pack of 25 for £5 in the UK (single layer), and it is probably cheaper elsewhere.
Re:Media (Score:2)
For the record, that price equates to ~$9.01796 US*
*I put US in there to differentiate between the US and Canadian dollars. Not that anyone would be confused into thinking I meant Canadian dollars but you never know. Then again there are Australian, New Zealand, Bahamian, Bahranian, Barbados, Bermudian, Hong Kong, Singaporian and Taiwanese dollars so one has to be sure that everyone is on the same page when doing conversions. Unli
dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n (Score:2, Funny)
Re:dam thats a lot of space for all your pr0n (Score:2)
So not a new DVD format as I first thought (Score:2, Informative)
calrification (Score:5, Informative)
Re:calrification (Score:2)
Re:clarification (Score:2)
Well then, I have three. I haven't used them yet though. I'm still working through my earlier bulk purchase of 500 DVD-Rs.
RTFA... (Score:4, Informative)
"...which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives..."
It isn't a terrabyte DVD, it's a terrabyte of HDD storage.
-Un
Re:RTFA... (Score:2)
Congratulations! You just gave me the chance to invent a new acronym:
RTFD(ictionary)!
Yen to dollars (Score:4, Informative)
From TFA:
Copyright charges (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Copyright charges (Score:2)
Legalizes? No. does it help you sleep better at night? Well, as long as you don't wet your bed, I guess this may help. What you paid for is the loss accrued by freeloaders of the system. people who think all digital content should be free. Thank them next time you meet one. I suggest a good swift kick in the balls, or should they not have any balls, an uppercut to the chin and kick them in the chest and/or stomach repeatedly when th
Re:Copyright charges (Score:2)
I use the CD/DVD burner to make backups of my own data and of some programs (Mainly opensource, but all with correct licences). The latter is pretty useless anyway since you can always download i
Re:Copyright charges (Score:2)
It is already weird enough that the goverment is involved in collecting fees for a branche organisation.
It still makes sense (Score:2, Insightful)
Extra competition is good...
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
we also have unconfirmed reports of someone reading an article on the news site slashdot before writing a comment about it... these reports remain unconfirmed...
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
Where do I find this? At a hunter's supply store?
Re:In other news... (Score:2)
"Duck tape" is actually a legitimate term (Score:3, Funny)
Actually, I thought the same thing until very recently when I was corrected on - ironically enough - Slashdot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_tape [wikipedia.org]
"Your" in need of calming down. Maybe you should sit down over "their" and rest.
But what do you record? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:But what do you record? (Score:2)
Re:But what do you record? (Score:2)
Here comes the math (Thanks google) (Score:5, Informative)
HDTV is approx. 19.3 megabit/sec
Google sez:
1TB / 19.2 megabit / second in hours = 121.362963 hours
Which is actually not nearly as much of a marketing lie as I expected.
Re:Here comes the math (Thanks google) (Score:2)
3 USD / gallon * radius of the earth / 10 miles per gallon in GBP
G *mass of earth / radius of earth^2
5 gigabytes / 3 megabits / second (good for download ETAs)
or just "the answer to the life the universe and everything".
Pretty much anything you can throw at it it can figure out. Would be really nice if they'd add it to google desktop search so that I wouldn't have to load firefox just to do my math.
A distinct difference (Score:3, Insightful)
Point: It will be available next month.
Counter-point: How soon will it be replacing normal DVD recorders at Walmart?
In other words, until it becomes widely marketed and distributed, it could (keyword: could) become just another niche device to die out in another year or so due to overwhelming cost of media.
They didn't say (Score:3, Funny)
What about the previous multi tuner recorder ? (Score:2, Interesting)
Read story without registration (Score:3, Informative)
Buy all the multi-disk sets again (Score:2, Funny)
This could probably be easily outdone (Score:2)
Then all we need is a well documented website showing us all how to do it complete with prepackaged ready to boot distro D
Bah! Damn corprate hell. (Score:3, Insightful)
Nothing like fake markets with controlled entry!
Ohmmm.... (Score:3, Funny)
You would be srprised... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:You would be srprised... (Score:2)
Bullshit (Score:2)
WTF are they to say what two ENTIRE continents are interested in? Elitest bastards, no wonder they only have 3% market share - they apparantly have no clue what the largest market share really wants.
Re:Bullshit (Score:2)
You will rue this day for exposing my plan, I was quietly trying to assimilate S. America into N. America. Damn you DAMN YOU!!!!!
Let us go back home Pinky, so we can plan for another day.
Interesting (Score:2)
Devices like these becoming popular might mean we see $100 HD/Burners where space considerations are for the manufacturers rather than the consumer.
The end of format wars?
Perhaps if this becomes the standard HD tech we might start seeing RAM drives for popular software, these for long term software and insert disk 265 for long term video pr0gram
Who comes up with this stuff? (Score:3, Funny)
Another graduate of the Sally Fields School of Mass Marketing Technology!
From the article:
Why is this news? (Score:2)
Re:And it costs... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:And it costs... (Score:5, Interesting)
*sigh* Yes. We know. We know that for that price, many ./'s could roll their own, but we don't have to hear that every darn time. Because every darn time that means some sucker like me has to point out that they're not marketing the product to you. They're marketing to money-rich, time-poor folks who don't want to build their own, they want to splash down the cash for something that just *works*.
It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!
I really could go on all day here..
Re:And it costs... (Score:5, Funny)
It's like saying: £1.20 for eggs! For that money I could raise my own chickens & save a few ££s.. £5 for cigarettes! For that money I can grow my own tobacco!
yeah, it's like telling a hooker - "$100 for sex for that money I could... errr... errr... OK, here's the 100 bucks"
Re:And it costs... (Score:2, Funny)
Build your own
It don't work.
You say "Damn Recorder!"
Grow your own (Score:2)
Unless you pay your taxes, the government wont be too kind to you.
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Her: "Can you come by tonight?"
Me: "Sure. Why?"
Her: "I got the Ladder 49 DVD last week, and I want you to play it for me"
Me: "sigh"
So I think a TIVO is really out of the question for her. If you want further proof, consider that while I was there, I showed her that when she's sending email in OE, and she wants to start a new line after she types Dear Name, all she has to do is hit enter.
It's a
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
The device in question is being marketed to consumers. So this $2100 behemoth is already being sold to consumers, most likely at the Japanese version of Circuit City. Contrast that to the couple of hundred people spend on Tivo's.
You know, some people like to read the articles before posting about them.
But then again, you are wiser than me. You appare
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
See that? "News for Nerds." That pretty much rules out "people don't know anything about putting together DVD recorders or computers"
That's the entire point here. With the exception of fantastically rich people who want to piss their money away, people who actually need a 1TB recorder will most likely possess the skill set to build one of their own.
Only more cheaply. So I really don't see a lot of these being sold (which was the point of m
Re:And it costs... (Score:3, Insightful)
But it doesn't say "news for petty insecure nerds." This is a cool toy. It is being mass marketed. That is news for nerds. Whether you can or can not build your own for less is irrelevant to the fact that someone is finally marketing it. If you can build your own for less than half the price and just as usable, then you are a complete moron. You should be out there bui
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Thank you, Captain Random Requirement, for reminding me of my obligation.
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
And thank you, Mr. Armchair Quarterback, for telling us all how you would do it better and cheaper than a successful business, but yet you can't manage to save enough to move out of your mother's basement.
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
As far as marketing something and making it popular, sure, that is only a step above buildi
Re:And it costs... (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't care about building my own PVR, it's not in my gate of interest. A prebuilt device like this is very much of interest to me and I have no problems shelling out $2100 for such a gadget to go with my $8000 HD plasma TV and my $1500 Home theater system.
Some of us are more interested in making money than to fiddle around with an old PC and some crappy software that may or may not work after you have spendt 200+ hours debugging shitty OSS code. No thanks! $2100 is more than worth it to me.
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Well, all that plays on my TV is DVDs and video games. It would be neat to order several seasons of shows that I've never seen preloaded on a Terabyte HD. Who am I kidding? They'd want to charge you $30-$50 dollars per season per show for that price cable/sat. is cheaper. It would take a long time for me to catch up though. I don't think it would be worth it.
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
Now, if multiple sessions are not supported well, you have to accumulate large amounts of data before writing one disk. This means lots of hard disk space and lots of time assembling data as well as a pretty good scheme to structure the data so that it can be searched because there will
Re:And it costs... (Score:2)
It's a 1TB HDD system with a *regular* DVD burner (whether it's DVD9 or single layer remains to be seen). DL or not, it should burn DVD5, with disks at a cost of approximately $0.33 USD.
The fact that 1TB does not translate to a convenient number of disks is precisely one of the many reasons why building your own box is a better solution - you can get a proggie like DVD shrink to compress the media for you.
Blu-ray would be better: 50GB per disk, 20 d
Re:What's so special ... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What's so special ... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:What's so special ... (Score:2)
On the topic of the blurb, I thought they were introducing a 1TB HDD, which made me excited as it would drive down the price of large HDDs (I'm starting a photography business). As it's a TiVo like device that uses two HDDs, they're taking more HDDs out of the market, which will drive up storage prices.
My recent motherboard purchase... (Score:2)
It's getting more than a little ridiculous in terms of the number of drives the things can support these days. The freakin' thing came with a card slot panel to fit on the back of the case, which takes two SATA connectors and a power connector. The idea being that you can attach internal SATA drives to the syst
Re:NOT a DVD Recorder (Score:2)
See http://av.hitachi.co.jp/deck/product/dvdh1000w/ind ex.html [hitachi.co.jp].
Re:CD/DVD's are crap (Score:2)
I dunno... I use CDs and DVDs very frequently to deliver work to customers. I like being able to keep 100 CDs on a spool instead of keeping a huge rack of them. I also imagine buying a CD carriage along with your media would raise prices too. It all depends on what your
Re:CD/DVD's are crap (Score:2)