Grafitti Causes Paralysis? 159
wtpooh writes "Some researchers at Johns Hopkins have found that writing on PDAs like the PalmPilot can cause a special kind of paralysis, as your mind has to adjust to a new kind of writing. Check out the story "
(please don't send me flame mail for posting satire... I just
thought it was funny, but considering I can't feel much below
my neck after moving furniture all day, I might be wrong :)
Stuttering & bad hand writting (Score:1)
With me, say I've been coding for 2 hours and then I all of a sudden try talking to someone I can't hardly talk without saying, "Well I was going to, uh, I-I-I" it's like my mind is already 10 sentences ahead while what's coming out of my is still 10 sentences behind and then you forget where you are at the 1st half of what you're saying because you're thinking on the last half already. It's really weird, I have to put my mind on, "slow mode" to even speak correctly. People also say I speak kind of fast too and that's after I've been using the computer. Hmm weird stuff. Oh, plus I can't even read my own signature too. I just kinda scribble something and try to pass that off as my sig.
Dvorak-Qwerty mess is tougher (Score:1)
In other words, when holding a palm and the palm pen, your brain can switch to and from graffiti mode relatively easily.
On the other hand, when typing at a keyboard, all your environmental cues are identical, whether you are using dvorak or qwerty. (That is, unless you only use dvorak or qwerty under certain specific settings, like one at home, the other at work.) Having to mental-mechanically memorize two sets of keymappings is much more challenging and torturous.
Re:PIP's nothing, I get Dvorakitis! (Score:1)
I still use vi all the time. And EMACS. (Ctrl-X Ctrl-C isn't quite as convenient, as it's now a two hander). But do what's best for you.
one word (Score:1)
looks like somebody got their revenge for the 'every site in the world got simultaneously sued and taken off-line' april fools joke.
3l33t writing leads to gibberish as well? (Score:1)
Nice article...i laughed out loud when I read the disclaimer at the end.
:)
Re:I'm not paralyzed, but... (Score:1)
...and the Graffiti E, and the Graffiti K. People must think I learned writing not until a few weeks ago...
Regards, Jochen
Re:me too (Score:1)
Re:At first, I thought it was more M$ sponsored FU (Score:1)
I'll bet if one hired a PI to investigate this author, and the "doctors" cited therein, payola tracks would lead to Redmond.
I don't buy it (Score:1)
Re:I don't buy it (Score:1)
... and I thought that turning 23 yesterday would have made me wiser... LOL
The dangers of writing in C (Score:1)
program that I stupidly decided to do at in the
last few days) I tried to write the manual, and
realized after a while that I had been ending
sentences with semicolons.......
This is what made me look at the date: (Score:1)
When I saw that, I scrolled up to see if it was dated April 1. I saw that it wasn't and started looking around for some kind of BS flag and saw the disclaimer.
Still funny.
Re:That is interesting. (Score:1)
Re:me too (Score:1)
But I don't own a PDA. I'll wait till they accept voice (or telepathic) input.
Hurm. My Signature Has Not Stablized (Score:1)
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend.
Rob's manipulations (Score:1)
Good idea maybe Ill grab one too.
Re:At first, I thought it was more M$ sponsored FU (Score:1)
Here [jps.net] is the proof.
Re:Dvorak-Qwerty mess is tougher (Score:1)
Yes, I have noticed I will start typing qwerty on a soft keyboard, like the ones at work. When I'm on my spring click keyboard at home, its all dvorak.
The problem is my laptop, which has a soft keyboard and I often type qwerty in error.
Joke or not... (Score:1)
I can transpose this to other things I usually do on computers or other electronic devices; the other day, I had to do some divisions. No computers, no calculators around. Pen and paper was it. Well, damn! I couldn't remember how to divide on paper! Took me nearly half an hour to get this thing right. (I have since remembered properly how to devide on paper, but the point is that a couple of more years and I wouldn't have been able to teahc my kid.)
Shorthand (Score:1)
Yeah, I know it's satire... (Score:1)
I guess I'm going to have to get some practice in between now and then (I've been meaning to for a while, and this article might just have done me a favour by prodding me in the right direction). But in the long term, I can't help wondering if (hand)written examinations are actually a fair way to assess people any more.
At first, I thought it was more M$ sponsored FUD (Score:1)
but then I saw the tiny text at the bottom of the article
The South to the Future World Wide Wire Service is a weekly feed of technology and media news commentary and satire published by the San Francisco Bay Guardian. Quotations attributed to public figures who are satirized are often true, but sometimes invented. Some fictional statements may, in fact, be true. Any other use of real names is accidental and coincidental.
Still, I wouldn't be surprised if M$ used this to get people to buy wince [god I love that name :-) ] instead of Palms. Me, I'm sticking with my Newton MP2100 and writting on it like I do on paper!
The Jerk (Score:1)
And then I saw It was a Satire, So its Art imitating Art .
Re:Shorthand (Score:1)
Exactly (Score:1)
This is what I would have liked for the April fools jokes recently. This is something everybody laughed at, which was flawlessly executed.
I enjoyed reading that.. (Score:1)
I enjoyed reading that. It's quite interesting trying to examine yourself while reading this.
It's a joke! (Score:1)
Headline:
Excessive use of Internet's point-and-click environment causes debilitating reading disorder in computer users. Thousands unable to read all the way to the end...
They had me going for a while...
(Hehe)
VEs required to accommodate test candidates (Score:1)
N5RDV - affiliated with ARRL and W5YI VECs as an occasional volunteer examiner.
Michael S. Keller, green at null punct net.
Keeping my Newton (Score:1)
I also have to work sometimes to keep my handwriting usable.
And I use a Newton MP2K, which, for the most part, accepts my handwriting.
I'll wait for other natural handwriting interfaces, ala tablets, or verbal input, or break down and find a Gateway Handbook 486 and put Linux on it. But the battery life sucks.
I loathe lugging around a computer that will run for only two hours, then require a recharge. So I keep my wildly versatile Newton.
Take my ramble for what you paid for it.
-Michael S. Keller
green @ null punct net
Re:That is interesting. (Score:1)
leftshift pi 2 / leftshift sin
It's normal. You've just been using your HP calculator for too long.
RPN kicketh ass.
Things that make you go "hmmmm...." (Score:1)
Why does this guy have to write a check at the end of a date?
Hmmm?
Re:The Palm needs a keyboard (Score:1)
Re:Well don't that beat all.. (Score:1)
Hmmmm... I seem to recall an interview on 20/20 or something where a handwriting analyst (someone who can ID a person through comparing handwriting samples) likened scriptanalysis to astrology or "reading" the bumps on someone's skull (I forget the name of this "science")... In short, utter bunk.
Adapting to new writing (Score:1)
One reason I have been working on my handwriting is for my comics - I don't want to have to use a lettering guide, so I just have been trying to write in straight lines in all cases...
Graffiti is wonderful, though I find myself using the keyboard for long stretches of text (like copying quotes into my outliner). I tried using the Fitaly [fitaly.com] keyboard for a while but found it too small... or something. I just didn't like it. That gestural keyboard recently
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Good spoof... (Score:1)
"The South to the Future World Wide Wire Service is a weekly feed of technology and media news commentary and *satire* published by the San Francisco Bay Guardian. Quotations attributed to public figures who are *satirized* are often true, but *sometimes invented*. Some fictional statements may, in fact, be true. Any other use of real names is accidental and coincidental."
So... While Pilots may help to give you RSI, or exacerbate existing RSI, they definitely don't give you a debilitating neurological disorder (other than the compelling need to manage your entire life on them, of course
Re:At first, I thought it was more M$ sponsored FU (Score:1)
Re:segfault....WinCE (Score:1)
But this happens if I use a Microsoft product! (Score:1)
I can always look forward to the calming OS/2 desktop or my Linux developement system. ahhhhhh
;)
Lighten up Francis (Score:1)
Re:*PAPER* (Score:1)
*PAPER* (Score:1)
Thinking too far ahead/buffer overruns... (Score:1)
Hmmm. Writing isn't much good if it is so slow.
Interesting. Maybe I can convince my university to let us take our tests on a computer.
(Sure miss having a backspace key when I write tho.)
To Be Fair... (Score:1)
Re:PDP-11's and Checkbooks (Score:1)
This is satire. (Score:1)
Re:PIP's nothing, I get Dvorakitis! (Score:1)
Damn that rhymes!
segfault (Score:1)
issa joke (Score:1)
Does this story need a new icon? (Score:1)
*NEWTON* (Score:1)
Re:Well don't that beat all.. (Score:1)
Damn it, I fell for it! (Score:1)
Re:me too (Score:1)
Ok I'll admit to having, on ocasion, halted for a moment to *remember* how to write, before I can actually start doing it... but that's a LONG way from paralysis... I think this article is total and utter alarmist B.S., because if it were a mere bad choice of words they wouldn't stress the PARALYSIS mumbo-jumbo.
So it is my opinion that this article has no credibility, both medical or scientifical, other than it could be the basis for a study, and not mere Supposition and Conjecture as it is in its present form.
To those of you who see my point, I thank you for your understanding. To those who don't, don't bother to flame, and please try to think with your own heads.
P.S.: If the problem with PDAs was related to their alphabet, what in blazes would happen to those of us who happen to write arabic, cantonese, cyrillic and western alphabets... boy would we be stumped.
Handwriting go buh-bye! (Score:1)
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Um... Piano? Violin? These IMPROVE muscle memory (Score:1)
The same is true of my handwriting since I've started using a Pilot.
It's amazing what bullshit people will write, given a stupid thesis and some money to research with.
Hand position, not Graffiti. (Score:1)
I managed to narrow it down to a change in my hand position; I've never used Graffiti, so that couldn't have been the cause. I had slid my hand closer to the tip of the stylus/pen which, from what I experienced, caused my hand to cramp up when using the same position on "traditional" media. By consciously sliding my hand back up the stem, my style returned (mostly) to normal.
Unfortunately, I have little opportunity or reason to write lengthy prose on paper anymore, so I haven't completely succeeded in making the position an unconscious one again.
Don't scare me like that! (Score:1)
"The South to the Future World Wide Wire Service is a weekly feed of technology and media news commentary and satire published by the San Francisco Bay Guardian. Quotations attributed to public figures who are satirized are often true, but sometimes invented. Some fictional statements may, in fact, be true. Any other use of real names is accidental and coincidental."
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Ummmm . . . (Score:1)
Assuming this story is real and not satire... (Score:1)
"Hence" usually implies a logical cause-and-effect relationship.
Re:Cha-Ching! (Score:1)
I imagine that if I used a palm pilot I might accidentally write one letter on top of the other or something like that, too.
I guess it's the slight amount of truth to this article that makes it so funny. This was really well done.
Do keyboards cause inability to write? (Score:1)
I remember when I took the GRE, the hardest part was where you had to copy this paragraph, in cursive, about not cheating. I had to rest after every few words and by the time I was done my right hand hurt so much I had to fill in bubbles with my left hand for a while!
Re:PIP's nothing, I get Dvorakitis! (Score:1)
this is a joke (Score:1)
Johns Hopkins Neuroscientist? (Score:1)
Maybe I should move over to the Psych department. Their researchers go on CNN. Neuro just gets made fun of in phony websites.
-Chris
Re:PIP's nothing, I get Dvorakitis! (Score:1)
Re:That is interesting. (Score:1)
arcsin(pi/2) i'll write (pi/2)arcsin.. But i know what i'm writing, so it doesn't much matter.
and i'll go between cursiveish and printingish, and get really mangled "the"s. like an h with a line through it c.
Re:Things that make you go "hmmmm...." (Score:1)
and besides, ho's don't take american express. I saw it in a commercial once.
Re:me too (Score:1)
As for signing checks and credit card slips, well I'm lucky that most people don't even bother checking the signature these days
hmmmmm.... (Score:1)
My signature still seems to be illegible, though....
YES!!! (Score:1)
Re:Actually noticed this (Score:1)
Tom F^HD^H@^H(dammit)Gidden
Re:Satirical story (Score:1)
I have had every palm out there (with a V now) and this seems a bit extreem to me. Ofcourse my amount of use may be no where near or even simular to these users.
Re:Satirical story...Oh no (Score:1)
Its not serious
Please disregard my last post and blame my lack of judgement on the fact that its the end of the day, and I really want to go home.
A joke? (Score:1)
Re:sig (Score:1)
"OK Computer"
The track is called "airbag" I I believe
it's a satire magazine, you know (Score:1)
Newton (Score:1)
People would start using their Newtons again -
they don't require that you draw funny doodles instead of real characters...
Re:Assuming this story is real and not satire... (Score:1)
Jeers to CommanderTaco, for not catching this piece of satire and marking as such.
And Jeers to those who did not read the disclaimer and realize it's bogus.
It's not just me! (Score:1)
Very True (Score:2)
Plus it happens a lot more at work...at work I cary a little notpad about the size of my palm pilot, and I naturlay write near the bottom every time...I have to actualy make shure I'm writing across...but I still have a hard time not writing in graffiti.
PDP-11's and Checkbooks (Score:2)
Back in my PDP-11 assembler days I spent three hours trying to figure out why my checkbook didn't balance, only to find that at some point I had started doing the arithmetic in octal. I fixed that problem - I stopped balancing my checkbook.
sPh
Re:PDP-11's and Checkbooks (Score:2)
Nope - it actually happened to me. I was never at MIT and my PDP-11 days were long before the Jargon File was known to the outside world. I shredded those check registers last time I moved (3 years ago), though, so you will have to take my word for it. My concentration level is nowhere near as high as real hackers I have known; if it happened to me I imagine it must have happened to many others as well.
sPh
Re:wtpooh is very embarassed (Score:2)
Oh, this article had me fuming at the possible lawsuits about the latest technology. I hit the floor laughing when I saw this comment. This was a rich one that came a month and a week too late!
Re:me too (Score:2)
Re:That is interesting. (Score:2)
I'll definately have to do some tests at work tommorow and see if I can see the pattern.
It's gonna be a royal pain to have to use paper for the exam when I finally get up to 13wpm with morse code... Wonder if I can convince them I have to use a keyboard/typewriter to copy code.
This article is worthwile, though ... (Score:2)
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Ian Peters
Re:me too (Score:2)
Re:me too (Score:2)
I've actually had someone question my signature. The bank computers asked me to do it again a while ago. I've recently radically simplified my signature, and I've _almost_ got it down. I'm 25 - pity me.
Seriously, who writes anymore? I can't remember the last time I hand wrote more than a single sentence.
Kris.
Win a Rio [cjb.net] (or join the SETI Club via same link)
That is interesting. (Score:2)
Do you tend to also swap letters around? That is begining to really get on my nerves. I haven't looked at the patern yet. Think I'll do that.
Re:CTS (Score:2)
He says first: "By the time our signature stabilizes," explains Miezkowsky, "so does our
personality. Hence, a change in signature often signals a major shift in personality." Ok,
so changes in signature are an EFFECT of changes in personality. Fine.
but then he says, tantamount thereto, imho, that forcing change in ones signature can CAUSE problems (with personality?): "With PIP, it's not a signature change but a radical departure from one's individual style of writing, and this alteration can lead to big, big problems."
I dont know why he says "its not a signature change", because that links back to the first statement, suggesting he's thinking of it as a CAUSE to things similar to personality change.
I dont think its a two way street bub.
While I dont doubt that some people can get neurological impairment from various suprising
things, and this may be one of them, I think his reasoning is off (or at least his attention to the logic grammar in his statements is incorrect).
Incorrect, it happens (Score:2)
It just happens to some people (usually if they change the way they work after 30-35).
And this does not mean that it happens to everyone of course.
Cognitive Dysfunction (Score:2)
I shrugged, took another swig of espresso and rubbed my wrists.
Then I read the disclaimer.
...
Dang.
Thank you, Rob, for making everyone's day a little more surreal...
--RawkettPenguiN
"My Palm Pilot is named Arthur. Perhaps that's why it locks up."
me too (Score:2)
Of course, I get this already and I don't even have a PDA. I just type so much that my writing skills are vestigial. He talks about anxiety over signing a check - I got that. Well, maybe not the anxiety bit, but I take a long time to remember what the heck my hand is supposed to be doing.
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Re:That is interesting. && Buffer Overruns (Score:2)
As for writing, I transpose letters and drop them (or half-write them), which gets worse the faster I have to write (aka "taking notes"). No wonder my notes are so illegible to me.
Better yet, I don't make much sense sometimes, when the ideas come too fast for the transcription medium (keyboard/writing/speaking)... What I need is a neural interface (and I can't upgrade the buffer... it's way too small for my needs now).
Blah, I think it's getting to me, now.
Satirical story (Score:2)
Re:PDP-11's and Checkbooks (Score:2)
But doing your math in hex is nothing. After playing 'go' intensely for a while, I found myself
driving down the street and thinking about how you could change the landscape by putting a tree there (and remove some buildings), a short building over there (and remove a cluster of highrises), etc. Talk about baffled looks when you mention that to others...
Well don't that beat all.. (Score:3)
Althought, there is something to be said for the concept. I know a little about scriptanalysis, and while the jury is still out on the completeness of the theory, there is something to it.
Certain personality types seem to correlate with particular styles of writing pretty strongly.
Intense people tend to have spiky, angular writing, while easy going people tend to write in rounder letters. The nuances of crossed t's and dotted i's suggest certain personality traits - but it's far from an exact science. It's pretty interpretive, much like dreams and free association exercises.
But it makes me wonder. If there are in fact correlations, and one's writing style betrays one's personality, then why could it not work the other way? After all, it might be a bio-feedback mechanism - just like facial expression and posture.
Consider that changing one's tempo of writing, slowing it down and concentrating more on the spacing between words and other penmanship artifacts just might feed back onto one's personality. This puts all those penmanship lessons in Catholic school into a different perspective. The good nuns intended for us all to have nice handwriting, but they were also shoehorning us into a uniform personality type. Another example of religious brainwashing.
Now, a PDA, with it's typically jerky and disjointed grafitti might instill those tendencies in the user.
Give a little thought to the appearance and style of your handwriting. Is it small and intense - focused on details and careless of the reader's experience? Is it permeated by short, angular upstrokes into sequencial letters in a word? How about that bursty tempo? And the afterthought crosed t and dotted i? Is it pretty and elegant, or more concerned with getting the meaning across?
Congratulations, you intuitive, cerebral, stressed egomanical hacker type.
Did anyone else read the disclaimer? (Score:3)
Service is a weekly feed of technology and media news commentary and satire published by the San Francisco Bay Guardian. Quotations attributed to public figures who are satirized are often true, but sometimes invented. Some fictional statements may, in fact, be true. Any other use of real names is accidental and coincidental. "
wtpooh is very embarassed (Score:4)
Fooled you all!
No, I must confess, I did not read the part at the end where they say they are a satire mag. Someone at work forwarded the link to me, and I fell for it all the way. I've got a feeling he'll be coming over and laughing at me any time now.
Of course, if I had known it was a joke I would still have submitted it, but I wouldn't be quite so red-faced now :).
PIP's nothing, I get Dvorakitis! (Score:5)
Oddly enough, once I started typing a sentance (just a couple of letters in, even), it would come back to me effortlessly, but as soon as I stopped for a few seconds, I'd have that hesisation again!
Oh, and for those who think that Dvorak is overhyped-- you're right. My objective with learning Dvorak wasn't speed. I was in a dorm room where *everybody* wants to check email on any computer they can beg their way onto. Changing the keymaps was a pretty effective deterrant.
Humorous aside: Dvorak may be "optimized" for typing in English, but UNIX commands (and programming symbols like ";") are clearly optimized for typing in QWERTY! To type "ls\n" on a Dvorak keyboard, you hit the QWERTY keys "p;\n" -- three consecutive little finger keystrokes. Ick! And if you mess up while learning and accidently type in a QWERTY "ls", a dvorak keyboard will show "no". It's quite odd to be at a bash prompt, tell your computer a simple command like "ls" and have "no" appear on the screen. I thought my computer was rebelling against me the first time I did it!