Neuroscientist's AI-Powered Startup Aims To Transform Human Cognition With Perfect, Infinite Memory (msn.com) 75
Bloomberg describes him as a "former Harvard Medical School professor whose research has focused on the intersection of AI and neuroscience."
"For the past 20 years, I studied how the human brain stores and retrieves memories," Kreiman writes on LinkedIn. And now "My co-founder Spandan Madan and I built a new algorithm to endow humans with perfect and infinite memory." Engramme connects to your **memorome**, i.e., entire digital life. Large Memory Models work in the same way that your brain encodes and retrieves information. Then memories are recalled automatically — no searching, no prompting, no hallucinations. [The startup's web site promises "omniscient AI to augment human cognition."]
We have built the memory layer for EVERY app. Read our manifesto about augmenting human cognition. ["We are not just building software; we are enabling a complete transformation of human cognition. When the friction disappears between needing a piece of information and recalling it, the nature of thought itself changes. This synergy between biological intuition and digital precision will be the most disruptive force in modern history, fundamentally reshaping every profession... We are dedicated to creating a world where everyone has the power to remember everything they have ever learned, seen, or felt "]
Welcome to a new future where you can remember everything. This is the MEMORY SINGULARITY: after 300,000 years, this is the moment that humans stop forgetting.
Bloomberg reports that the startup (spun out of a lab at Harvard) is "in talks with investors to raise about $100 million, according to people familiar with the matter."
"For the past 20 years, I studied how the human brain stores and retrieves memories," Kreiman writes on LinkedIn. And now "My co-founder Spandan Madan and I built a new algorithm to endow humans with perfect and infinite memory." Engramme connects to your **memorome**, i.e., entire digital life. Large Memory Models work in the same way that your brain encodes and retrieves information. Then memories are recalled automatically — no searching, no prompting, no hallucinations. [The startup's web site promises "omniscient AI to augment human cognition."]
We have built the memory layer for EVERY app. Read our manifesto about augmenting human cognition. ["We are not just building software; we are enabling a complete transformation of human cognition. When the friction disappears between needing a piece of information and recalling it, the nature of thought itself changes. This synergy between biological intuition and digital precision will be the most disruptive force in modern history, fundamentally reshaping every profession... We are dedicated to creating a world where everyone has the power to remember everything they have ever learned, seen, or felt "]
Welcome to a new future where you can remember everything. This is the MEMORY SINGULARITY: after 300,000 years, this is the moment that humans stop forgetting.
Bloomberg reports that the startup (spun out of a lab at Harvard) is "in talks with investors to raise about $100 million, according to people familiar with the matter."
I would be happy (Score:5, Funny)
What could possibly go wrong? (Score:3)
You could beat me to the joke.
I actually think it's an interesting story in terms of aging, but wouldn't it be nicer to stay with the memories of peak happiness? Too much of the recent stuff strikes me as unpleasant or insane or both...
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A data center "outage" and all your bank and buttcoin passwords belong to them. Best, you would not even remember you owned any.
So let me get this straight... (Score:4, Informative)
I'm doomed to remember the awful, awful date with an attractive woman I really liked, where I shouldn't have had coffee after dinner and we went back to her place, and she only had a curtain for a bathroom door, and I needed to have an explosive dump right now and I had to bolt out of there like an idiot?
In Technicolor?
I won't be able to bury that?
Re:So let me get this straight... (Score:5, Funny)
Neither will she.
Re: So let me get this straight... (Score:2, Redundant)
She won't anyway.
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Well, you could post a story about it online.
"...the nature of thought itself changes. "
It most definitely will not.
This is a Trump-level grift.
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Yes, and in fact.. those with exceptional memory tend to have OCD and accessing those memories cause emotional trauma similar to when the memory was first recorded. They also tend to have problems with relationships...
Marilu Henner with Bob Costas...
https://youtu.be/UidGrceG5Z8?s... [youtu.be]
60 minutes episode on Superior Autobiographical Memory..
https://youtu.be/q3PuQ4Gzx3w?s... [youtu.be]
Re: So let me get this straight... (Score:2)
Those are some great videos. Thanks for the cites!
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All my core memories are traumatic. PTSD is having the wrong kind of selective memory.
Coffee works wonders for combat readiness.
I remember a girl who never shut the door when she went to do her business. To this day I cannot fathom why she did not value her own privacy. Not embarrassed to make any kind of noise whatsoever, and then just start singing on top of that.
Enjoy Your Meal! (Score:2)
"You too!" x âz
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There was an infinity symbol there, forgot the slashdot code hasn't been touched in Ãz years.
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Anyway, writes on linkedin is synonymous with just flat out lying.
Re: Enjoy Your Meal! (Score:1)
Don't worry, someone will invent Unicode soon.
Let's build... (Score:2)
What could go wrong? (Score:3)
When the friction disappears between needing a piece of information and recalling it, the nature of thought itself changes.
Ah, doesn't that sound grand and noble! But do we really want it? What we have currently has evolved over millennia. I don't trust anybody - never mind tech bros - to mess with it. Especially not when further concentration of wealth is their real goal.
This synergy between biological intuition and digital precision will be the most disruptive force in modern history, fundamentally reshaping every profession...
Oh great! Those who would shape the evolution of human thinking can't even be bothered to talk seriously about their own mission. They recycled some trendy wording stolen from an old corporate HR memo, and used it to represent their "revolutionary" idea. These are clearly NOT serious people.
We are dedicated to creating a world where everyone has the power to remember everything they have ever learned, seen, or felt
Never mind "dedicated". Instead, you must be "committed". And the sooner we can get you committed to the psych facility you clearly need, the better. That might stop you from scamming credulous investors in what looks an awful lot like the pseudo-intellectual equivalent of a pump 'n' dump scheme.
These days, it really is true that most of the so-called "substance" behind our financial markets is in fact inferior self-aggrandizing Madison Avenue ad copy that sounds like the product of an extended trip on 'shrooms. Yay Capitalism!
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Ah, doesn't that sound grand and noble! But do we really want it? What we have currently has evolved over millennia. I don't trust anybody - never mind tech bros - to mess with it. Especially not when further concentration of wealth is their real goal.
Oof.
The reason you shouldn't trust techbros is because the techbros have proven themselves not to be trusted. There's no reason to sully a legitimate reason behind such a ridiculous statement.
Evolution doesn't find the best way to do something. It pits multiple ways of doing something against each other and destroys the least best among those options.
There are countless ways everything "evolved over millennia" could be improved.
Yes, don't let or trust the techbros to do it, but only because they are proven
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the fact our waste management system and reproductive system are so closely intertwined.
Could be worse [wikipedia.org].
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That's intelligent design!
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All good points - thanks for the fresh perspective.
That said, even with the flaws you pointed out, we manage to make what evolution handed to us actually work. I fear that the compressed time frames and the lack of "try before you buy" that come with our attempts to fool Mother Nature may backfire.
I totally get the desire to
take our improvements out of the hands of evolution and put it solidly into ours
, but I don't trust that desire. That's probably because I don't trust mankind's wisdom. After all, that very wisdom is a product of the same evolution which gave us the
need to breath through the same orifice we have to shove liquids and large chunks of solids into
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The dude invented the hash table and wants someone to give him 100 million dollars for it (to start). How's he supposed to do that without some verbal razzle dazzle?
Re: What could go wrong? (Score:1)
"I'm sorry, this memory has been redacted"
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Ah, doesn't that sound grand and noble! But do we really want it? What we have currently has evolved over millennia. I don't trust anybody - never mind tech bros - to mess with it. Especially not when further concentration of wealth is their real goal.
Indeed, so good job that these people can't possibly deliver anything even remotely like that. The claims they make are breathtakingly shameless.
Real memories include things like what something smelled like, what it felt like to the touch, the emotions you felt at the time. How are they going to "frictionlessly recall" that exactly?
Engramme connects to your **memorome**, i.e., entire digital life
So what this sounds like, you can enter into their app "what did I do on June 15th, 2023?" And it'll tell you something like 'According to your Linkedin, you had a meeting with a
I want the opposite. (Score:2)
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Also, same old jokes still work.
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I saw this episode of Black Mirror already... (Score:2)
Hollywood got there first (Score:4, Informative)
"Brainstorm" (1983) Douglas Trumbull dir. : Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood (her last movie). A device records experience and memory from one brain, and allows it to be played back into another. Someone records sex, splices an orgasm loop, and is disabled by overload (like a Niven "wirehead"). A sinister government project is formed to exploit the technology. Someone records a psychotic; someone else finds the tape labelled "Toxic" and plays it anyway.
See also "They Saved Hitler's Brain" (1968).
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Teen boys watching all of it. Jaded. Nothing surprising. Nothing new. Nothing they haven't already done, vicariously, too many times.
Lots of memories. Lots of experience, in theory. And then in practice, they can't get it up.
Look it up. They complain about it online.
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The implication being (Score:2)
You'd have to wear some always-on video recording device, and the AI would be listening to everything, watching everything, and understanding everything happening to you (in the cloud no doubt), and then remembering it, and then prompting you with memories when it feels they're appropriate to your current situation? Sounds like a bit of a stretch, technology-wise, and privacy-wise. One for the cyborgs, maybe.
Re: The implication being (Score:2)
Not everything - not the feeling of holding hands etc.
1. Do publicly-funded research
2. Go private with 'your' knowledge
3. Profit?
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And it would be funded by adverts inserted into your memory....
I know they didn't say that, but we all know that's where it's going, right?
Sounds Like Snake Oil (Score:2)
This sounds like a scam. Real scientific products have real science behind them, and they trumpet their science. This has ... biz-speak.
And no, I do not believe in that any "new algorithm" can "endow humans with perfect and infinite memory." If it sounds too good ...
ads (Score:4, Funny)
The critical importance of forgetting (Score:5, Informative)
If you don't want to read those, here's the TL;DR version: forgetting isn't a bug; it's a feature. It serves a critical function in our cognition, and it has evolved to serve that function over millions of years.
These idiots are trying to tamper with natural forces that they don't understand and don't respect, and they're doing it with zero regard for the consequences to human society. Just like Crichton's scientists in Jurassic Park, there's no humility, only ambition and greed.
Remem Redux? (Score:3)
Ted Chiang’s 2013 story The Truth of Fact, the Truth of Feeling (https://www.are.na/block/4600052) explores the cognitive and social consequences of a lifelog retrieval system called Remem. The narrative examines how technologies that record and preserve information—from oral tradition to writing, and eventually to continuous digital capture—reshape human memory, perception, and relationships.
The story interweaves this near-future scenario with a historical account of an African tribe enco
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Re: Remem Redux? (Score:2)
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Wait! What? (Score:2)
Are they trying to invent the perfect robotic wife?
Meaninglessness (Score:4, Insightful)
My prediction (Score:3)
"in talks with investors to raise about $100 million"
An infinite memory s going to take an infinite amount of money.
Re: My prediction (Score:1)
Sshh, let's get them on the hook first then let sunk cost fallacy + greed work their magic.
Perfect, Infinite Memory... (Score:2)
...of stuff that doesn't matter
Imperfect, limited, ordinary memory for the important stuff
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That sounds awesome. How much of it is doable before the investors have been bled dry?
Obvious Scam (Score:4, Insightful)
These fuckers learned absolutely nothing from Theranos or the other medtech scam startups, did they?
Oh, the hubris (Score:2)
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Absolutely. Can't agree more. If you keep remembering everything perfectly then you'll have problems. I know a guy with extremely high IQ and a memory to match. He doesn't forget anything. Read a textbook, leave it at home. Cite any page. Anyway - and here's the crux - if there's, say, a slightly heated technical discussion at work, it's like *now* forever after. A couple of years later? Same. Which means that after a while there aren't many people left he can really work well with.. the heated discussion
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How to maintain traumas forever (Score:5, Interesting)
Remember that root-canal treatment you needed five years ago? Yeah, now you can! Including all the extreme pain because the dentist could not anesthetize because it was infected.
Or how about perfectly remembering getting raped?
Yeah, that'll help create some phobias.
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"Or how about perfectly remembering getting raped?"
I suspect rape victims have excellent recall already. But Jerry Falwell would certainly what to regulate memories of such things, dependent on who's doing the raping and who's doing the suffering, of course.
Doesn't matter, won't happen. It's a grift, nothing more. Maybe Sam Altman can buy it, charity that he is.
What idiot thinks e-memory is memory? (Score:4, Insightful)
I mean really. The ability for electronic devices to instantly recall things for you is not your memory.
Not Allowed? (Score:2)
endow humans with perfect and infinite memory.
I have a feeling politicians won't want people to use this tech.
Hyperthymesia/HSAM is not that great (Score:2)
Not how long term memory works (Score:5, Insightful)
Being able to flawless recall a moment would perhaps be useful, but this is NOT how human long term memory works. When healthy, we revisit and reinforce that which is happy, and helpful, and positive. When we can't let go of the past, that's often tied to things we describe as mental illness. Just ask anyone who's ever been treated for PTSD.
I remember that wave of emotion the first time I ever kissed *THAT* girl. And since we didn't have email or text messages, and I hadn't met her parents yet, I can also take you to the precise place on that Iowa highway where I heard her funeral announcement. I drove a couple more miles in stunned silence, before I realized it was scheduled on my 20th birthday.
I'll turn fifty nine in a week or so. Every year she fades a little more, but stopping to write this brings that hurt back, as sharp as ever.
This is a double edged sword and we should think twice before drawing it ...
Another bubble of the AI scam (Score:2)
Look at the pretty stock certificate. Isn't it pretty? You should buy a whole bunch of them. No, we don't have anything else to sell. Why would we need anything else to sell when we have these pretty stock certificates.
GIVE US MONEY!!!
We need to forget (Score:2)
Sure, remembering how to make the perfect airplane landing, every time, is a bonus. Plus, remembering the Bible/Quran contradicts human experience would end those religions. Or, remembering how stupid many politicians are, would change the world. But remembering the daily drive to work would be agony. The reality is, we need to forget details, to survive. Remembering the agony of childbirth, or awkwardness of her fi
The critical importance of forgetting (Score:1, Interesting)
"Infinite", you say (Score:3)
And there you are already lying. Nice when scammers are this obvious.
I'll believe it when I see it (Score:2)
We haven't built any brain machine interfaces that work well, so I'm being that tired won't work well either. Also these guys don't have make their promises work to get the money, they just have to say they'll make it work. All you need is cred
Not sure that's good (Score:3)
I would prefer that I didn't recall the pain of breaking my arm perfectly, thank-you. Could you imagine not having time to dull the edge of bad memories. My wife passed in 2001. I 'm really glad I don't recall that incident with perfect clarity.
Re: Sounds like a scam (Score:3)
AI is Just Going to Make People More Stupid (Score:2)
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Agreed. This is such a brilliant idea... NOT. You need to be able to hide, or push away some memories... like all the worst days in your life.
And the next step ... (Score:2)