How Much Would You Pay For an American-Made Laptop? Palmer Luckey Wants To Know (tomshardware.com) 227
Palmer Luckey, known for founding Oculus and defense-tech firm Anduril, is now eyeing U.S.-manufactured laptops as his next venture. While past American laptops have largely relied on foreign components, Luckey is exploring the possibility of building a fully "Made in USA" device that meets strict FTC standards -- though doing so may cost a premium. Tom's Hardware reports: ["Would you buy a Made In America computer from Anduril for 20% more than Chinese-manufactured options from Apple?" asked Luckey in a post on X.] Luckey previously asked the same question at the Reindustrialize Summit, a conference whose website said it was devoted to "convening the brightest and most motivated minds at the intersection of technology and manufacturing," which shared a clip of Luckey discussing the subject, wherein he talks about the extensive research he has already done around building a PC in the U.S. Luckey wouldn't be the first to make a laptop in the U.S. (PCMag collected a list of domestic PCs, including laptops, in 2021.) But those products use components sourced from elsewhere; they're assembled in the U.S. rather than manufactured there.
That distinction matters, according to the Made in USA Standard published by the Federal Trade Commission. To quote: "For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be 'all or virtually all' made in the U.S. [which] means that the final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States, all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States, and all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States. That is, the product should contain no -- or negligible -- foreign content." How much more would you be willing to pay for a laptop that was truly made in America?
That distinction matters, according to the Made in USA Standard published by the Federal Trade Commission. To quote: "For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be 'all or virtually all' made in the U.S. [which] means that the final assembly or processing of the product occurs in the United States, all significant processing that goes into the product occurs in the United States, and all or virtually all ingredients or components of the product are made and sourced in the United States. That is, the product should contain no -- or negligible -- foreign content." How much more would you be willing to pay for a laptop that was truly made in America?
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Add to it that what I as a person would do wouldn't matter. what matter is what corporations will do. Corporations looks at the price to a much larger extent.
DoD might buy fully US made, but they play by different rules.
The only way to be competitive is to have maximal automation in the manufacturing. Three to four persons servicing the robots that performs the manufacturing. A few people responsible for the design and then when they have finished the initial product only one or two of them are needed since
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Presumably the DoD is specifically who they are interested in. For anybody else, paying a 20% premium over Apple would be idiotic, especially as you go up in specifications. They you get beyond the hardware and have to ask what software is actually going to run on it and would that meet the same "security" guidelines.
Personally I am all for the US improving their ability to source full supply chains for critical goods domestically, although it would be much more efficient to look at it with allies, and could also improve redundancy. But you really need seed customers that are willing to pay a premium to make it happen and tariffs aren't the right tool for it.
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I also question if this is even possible. Can you get the major components which are made in the USA? Display, CPU, RAM and flash. Buying from Intel or AMD does not mean the CPU is made in the USA. Do they even offer models made in the USA?
20%? Sure. (Score:2)
But that's not where it would land.
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He really needs two numbers: (1) how much more people are willing to pay, and (2) how big a tariff barrier there will be for the imported laptops.
For (1) we have bids of 0% and 20% in the comments so far. Finding out what people would do isn't easy, but it's a lot easier than...
(2) Who knows what the tariff barriers will be? They depend on trade imbalances, border security, fentanyl precursors, prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro, perceived trade retaliation, and a whole lot of other ad hoc factors. Even though
Re: 20%? Sure. (Score:2)
No one cares about fentanyl, as seen when trump pardoned Ross Ulbricht (the guy running the online drug website, silk road)
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I care about fentanyl. I'm on 50 micrograms per day, and swap out my patches every 3 days.
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Does it work well without affecting your state of mind too much? And without having to ramp up the dose? And can you still feel enough "emergency" pain like when you cut your hand?
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I agree those two numbers are important. With the first, it's also important to bear in mind that what people *say* and what they actually *do* can be wildly different. Getting consumers to put money where there mouth is will be nigh-on impossible for this, I reckon. Or at least, enough consumers to make the venture profitable.
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Likewise on the "Sure." I don't share your view that 20% couldn't be achieved. The designs of all portable electronics today are based on the capabilities of an unlimited supply of cheap, disposable Asian hands. It is feasible to create designs suited to far greater automation.
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Note that in his Twitter/X pool, he specifically asked if we would be OK with prices that are 20% higher than Apple's.
Apple's prices are already higher than most of their competitors, so you would really be talking something like 50% more than your typical HP or Lenovo system. Yeah, I'm not willing to pay that much extra for a Made in the USA logo.
2024 Prices (Score:2)
The "no tariff" price seem fair to me.
What are they even at now? 40%? 84%? 145%? It really has been a fever-dream.
From Palmer? Zero (Score:2)
Less than Zero (Score:2)
Because not everyone here is American, and not even Americans are (on average) happy with the spyware built into American products. Likely it would be illegal to use in many of the countries I've worked in.
Well done, Mr President. You own this.
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Absolutely zero (Score:4, Informative)
#boycottamerica
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As the French might call that laptop, #LibertyLaptop.
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I am afraid that this is where we're heading.
USA under the leadership that calls itself "conservative" is becoming more and more a nation that does not play nice with others, and there are limits to what people will stand before boycotts start.
I don't think the political climates in China, India or Israel (where Intel chips are being made these days) look very stable either.
Two problems (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't believe the US currently has the capacity to make a laptop from scratch, even at 20% above Apple pricing. Assemble yes, but manufacture no. If it's possible at all, whatever corners are cut will ensure it's unusable as a computing device.
It's also far more likely this is some kind of investment scam than an actual legitimate business plan.
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Yes, he is a very legit psychopath.
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Re:Two problems (Score:4, Interesting)
So, Trump and his administration is trying to destroy education and the economy while claiming that more things need to be made in the USA. Without an actual plan, every claim by Trump to want this or that to happen won't work.
Moving manufacturing to the USA. Start by eliminating the stupid tariffs on components needed for manufacturing. Then, once finished products are being made here, move to encouraging the components to be made here, and then the sub-components to make the components. It could be done EVENTUALLY, but when you have tariffs on the equipment needed to build and configure a factory, that's completely sabotaging the initial claim of being interested in moving manufacturing back to the USA.
For the anti-education crowd that love Trump, yea, they don't dream, they can't come up with plans on how to make anything work, and their big concerns are that because they have no job skills, they are afraid that an immigrant will come in that actually does have job skills, so they don't like that.
Trump and most of these politicians can't even handle the idea of, "here are our goals for way way way down the line, now, here is the plan to get us there, and here are the steps needed for the plan(not just a vague promise of a plan)". Trump is a con artist, because he sold his supporters a bill of goods, but he has never had plans or even the outline of a plan on how to get ANYTHING done. Trump would have failed out of school if his father hadn't paid off the teachers and schools that Trump went to, and the USA is failing because too many stupid people believed him about the promises he can't keep, because he doesn't have the mental ability to follow through.
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Neither Intel nor AMD have a packaging plant for CPUs in the US. Similarly, I don't think there's a packaging plant in the US for discrete semiconductor components like diodes, bipolar transistors and power-mosfets. The parts might be US designed, even diffused in the US, but for being "Made in America" they need to be packaged in the US also.
I think that's a show-stopper for his idea.
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A proper plan to move manufacturing back to the USA would have had different stages. First stage, don't charge a tariff on components that we don't already manufacture here. Get the finished goods made here as the first phase. Then, for phase two, you start encouraging the components to be made here, with the sub-components needed being free of tariffs. If the raw materials are not available in large enough quantities, then get rid of the tariffs on the raw materials so the very basic elements can b
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20% is a huge under-estimate anyway. Even 100% is unlikely to be anywhere near high enough.
For me though I wouldn't buy one at any price. The NSA installs backdoors in products made in America. Maybe China does too, but we don't have any credible evidence of that, and China having a way into my laptop is much less of an issue anyway because they don't do work on behalf of the UK where I live.
Chinese-manufactured options from Apple (Score:2)
Interesting that he picked Apple as the price point of comparison.
Apple computers are already exorbitantly expensive. They're typically about 2-3x more expensive than similarly-equipped Windows computers. If you're OK paying thousands for a Mac Pro, you might be OK paying 20% more. If you're used to paying under $500 for a Windows computer, or $1,200 for a Dell XPS, you might balk at paying thousands for one of these machines.
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There are no "similarly-equipped" Windows computers.
When people buy a laptops they're buying hardware AND software. The Windows computers don't have the software Apple users want.
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There is nothing technical that prevents machines designed for Windows, from running Mac OS, only licensing restrictions. Mac OS runs Windows using Parallels and other VM software, and Mac OS can run on a Windows machine via a VM.
Feel free to add or subtract licensing fees from the comparison, if that makes you feel better. My point is about the cost of the hardware, and the story itself is about the cost of the hardware.
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It's not a matter of being "technical", it's a matter of being the desired product, or not.
People pay for Apple gear because they want the overall product offered. I don't understand why that's so offensive to Apple haters.
People buy or don't buy stuff for all kinds of personal reasons. Does not make them morons.
Personally, I didn't buy a $40,000 Buick Tourx, a vehicle I was very hot for, because when it was finally released, it didn't come with a spare tire. Not even as an option. Fuck GM. I wasn't buyin
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Re: Chinese-manufactured options from Apple (Score:4, Informative)
Similarly equipped? Doubtful. I buy Dell computers every week for corporate customers. Their prices have skyrocketed over the years, to where for âoeequivalentâ hardware to a $2700 MacBook will cost about $2800 to get in a Dell shell with a slower processor - M4 Pro 14 core vs Core Ultra 9 185H 16 core, and that Intel processor is not nearly as fast as the M4 Pro 14 core. In fact, if you move up to a Precision, with a Core i9-13950hx, you still have a processor that benchmarks lower in most tests. Of course, that model will cost you $3200, at which point you have the option to go to the M4 Max for just $300 more, and again you are getting higher performance for nearly every task.
Dell used to be price competitive. For customers that *need* to run Windows x64, they tend to be the most stable. But that competitive pricing is long gone. They learned from Apple that you can charge a premium and corporations will pay it. The sub-$1000 garbage you get off the shelf from them performs abysmally, and the build quality is pathetic.
Re: Chinese-manufactured options from Apple (Score:4, Informative)
The first laptop I ever bought in my life, in 36 years of owning and building desktop PCs, is an LG Gram for Costco I got for $750 last year . It has 16GB of RAM, 1TB of SSD, a 15.6 touchscreen, Wifi 6E, Thunderbolt 4. Most importantly, it is very light, and has excellent battery life.
Also works fine as a desktop with 3 monitors using a TB4 docking station.
I had a realtor come over recently with a $3,000+ MacBook Pro.
Really not sure why thing costs 4x the price of my LG. I immediately noticed the screen was non-touch, though. Apparently, in the Apple world, only tablets and phones are touch.
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I'm as much of an Apple hate as the next Linux fanatic, but this is not true.
Apple computers generally have a fairly hefty premium but like 20-50% not 2-3x. I'm comparing like for like, so not a shitbox with similar ram, flash and GHz, but excluding weight, but a high end machine like a good Thinkpad.
Also Apple have shit warranty options, precisely because they're trying to screw over their customers, but that's another rant.
Don't get me wrong, I would not pay that premium for a worse machine, but it's stil
Sounds wonderful... (Score:2)
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Short answer: fuck all. (Score:3)
"Would you buy a Made In America computer from Anduril for 20% more than Chinese-manufactured options from Apple?" asked Luckey in a post on X.
Obviously as someone who doesn't live in the US my answer would be "LOL No". I don't think I've ever owned something that was made in the USA. Maybe a couple of CPUs. Who's to say this new company would even make a good product? Tesla have been selling cars for about a decade and their QC is still crap.
Moreover, with all the tariff business going on wouldn't that mean that the US model is actually 40% more expensive? China makes a laptop for $1000, add on the tariff and the US customer has to pay $1200. Now this guy comes along asking if anyone is willing to pay $1440?
20% more than Apple, but what's left out... (Score:2)
...Is the product quality you actually get. 20% more than Apple but made in the US will get you a $300-value Chromebook.
Must have... (Score:2)
It depends, maybe 20% if it has the following:
1. At lease 15" 16:10 screen
2. Trackpoint like Thinkpads have
3. No Nvidia GPU
4. Components all Open and OpenBSD must be fully supported. Only because they avoid lock-down hardware
5. 100% fully repairable.
6. No Intel ME
8. Can disable/enable everything via BIOS.
I am sure I can think of others, but we all know such a laptop will never be made.
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It's pretty easy to get a laptop that meets all of those except the trackpoint. I think my System76 laptop does. (Not sure about the OpenBSD support, but the components are definitely all open. It comes with Linux.)
Your problem is wanting one particular feature that just isn't very popular anymore. When I had a Thinkpad years ago, I never used the trackpoint. I found it too imprecise to be useful, and the trackpad worked much better.
Re: Must have... (Score:2)
The same (Score:2)
I'd pay the same amount as I would for the same laptop made anywhere else on the planet.
In the case of my most recent laptop, purchased on December 16, 2024, that would be $2,069.
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Well, MacBook Air anyway.
It's "ungodly spec" that sealed the deal was the inclusion of OS X. I didn't care too much about the hardware specs. Even the 12 year old laptop it replaced had plenty good enough hardware for me, except for its 13" screen. I finally upgraded to get a 15" screen, to be easy on my aging and defective eyes.
I dunno what an i9s or RTX 4080s is, nor do I care.
Give me a laptop with a trackpoint and I'll talk (Score:2)
We used to believe that the Infinite Wisdom of the Free Market would give us the best products in all industries
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Trackpoints are too tall for today's trash keyboards.
I had an Elitebook with a Core 2 Duo which had one, but it also had a full sized keyboard with pretty good travel.
I wouldn't buy a laptop made in the USA (Score:3)
Canadian. Boycotting US products and services to the greatest extent that I can.
End of story.
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What we take no pleasure in is having to educate ignorant Americans on what "World Wide Web" means. So, news flash, as soon as you go online it's a world site. Welcome to the internet. I know you're sitting in your living room in hicksville USA (MERCA!), but it's actually visible all over the world. Wow, huh? A truly world forum.
This interaction reminds me of way back when AOL was given access to usenet news groups. Millions of dim users who had no idea that what they were posting on news groups were r
It should only create maybe 50 jobs. (Score:4, Insightful)
Why stop there? Get "Made in Texas" (Score:2)
You don't want those dirty Californians taking jobs that could go to your family and friends.
Demand a factory will be built in your own state. Local pride!
What does "made in America" really mean? (Score:2)
Does it mean "in name only," where everything except the final screw in the case is done overseas, then someone in America does the "final final assembly" by screwing in the final screw?
Does it mean what we normally thing of as "final assembly," where the circuit boards and non-electronic parts are made overseas, shipped to America, then put together in America?
Does it mean "one more level down," with an American factory soldering the components onto the circuit boards then doing the "final assembly"?
Does i
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Less (Score:2)
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Can it even be done? (Score:2)
Are all the chips, the screen, the keyboard, the trackpad etc needed for a laptop available in a form that would allow a manufacturer to meet "made in USA" rules?
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I was thinking about this, too. I wondered if the skills and supply chain exists in defense and could possibly be repurposed. The US defense industry is huge, after all, and I'm sure has quite a lot of rules about US-made components to protect against espionage. But.... the DoD is clearly very price-insensitive.
From what I understand, you could get a US-made chip from Intel or AMD or SkyWater, but it won't be sub-7nm. Might be hardened against radiation, though! You could get your PCBs too, but they'll cost
Yes (Score:2)
$2400 instead of $2000? Yes, as long is it meant that customer service didn't have anything harder than a Texas accent to listen to.
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Don't worry, all customer service will be AI - already is, according to Sam Altman. You will understand it just fine. Whether it understands or can process your requests is another matter.
Irrelevant at the moment (Score:2)
It doesn't really matter to me how much a US-made laptop would cost. I'm not buying anything from there for a while, nor will I be visiting.
Not possible (Score:5, Interesting)
This is the American Electrola DXC-100
https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/... [radiomuseum.org]
This was a radio made in 1993, cost around $250-$300 in 1993 money, was made in Pittsburgh PA and qualified for the Made in USA logo at the time. 2000 (2 batches of 1000) of them were sold by a primarily shortwave Rush Limbaugh clone named Chuck Harder that was previously selling Drake branded radios made in Japan before one of his listeners challenged him to sell a "Made in USA" Radio. It's so American, when you turn it off, the Display says "USA 1" on it.
And it's made out of 80% US parts. The other 20% is made from friendly foreign components (Think Europe, because in the 90s JAPAN BAD! EVIL! TRADE WAR!!)
And it sucked. The first batch could barely pick up local AM or SW stations and the 2nd Gen while better, didn't justify the cost when a GE Superadio III or a cheap Radio Shack rebadged Sangean would smoke it for 1/3 the cost. Within a few months Chuck was selling Drake receivers again.
So Even in 1993, when we still had a semiconductor and computer industry in the US, we couldn't even build a simple radio out of 100% American made parts.
So what snowball's chance in hell do you think we have to build a PC out of 100% American parts in 2025?
A mere 20%? (Score:2)
Give me a break. Anything with the "Made in America" badge will sell for twice the cost. It's like an "organic" sticker.
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It would have to, because the rest of the world wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, and the US rarely accounts for anything as much as, let alone more than, about 50% of any particular consumer market.
What means "American made"? (Score:2)
It can go from "just packaged" up to "every single component and screw has been manufactured in the USA".
Definitions first. Q&A later.
"Made" (Score:2)
How much can he sell me one for? (Score:2)
One *Trillion* Dollars (Score:2)
I would pay (pinkie to lip) ONE TRILLION DOLLARS!
I'd want an English one (Score:2)
Steam powered, made of rosewood with brass hinges.
The advantage of steam is you just need a supply of coal and a nearby stream; no messing with power banks to keep it running.
as somebody not American: Nothing (Score:2)
German here:
I would pay absolutely nothing for an American made laptop. I already pay too much for the Microsoft Windows tax that is added to the Chinese manufactured computers. Definitely not as long as that so called president over there is threatening everybody who does not lick his boots.
I would probably also not pay any premium for a German made laptop either, because most likely this would be a scam anyway.
Total American laptop would be $3-5k.... (Score:2)
Made in USA - fails even for grill cleaning brush (Score:2)
Capitalism (Score:2)
But would I buy it from you? (Score:3)
There are absolutely Americans I could get behind buying hardware from; but, for some weird reason, naming your defense contractor after a Tolkien thing is a pretty reliable sign of being among the most degenerate flavors of reactionary techbro going.
Would you buy... (Score:2)
Haha. No I would the fuck not. 20% more than apple? Get all the fucked.
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I would not (Score:2)
The question is wrong (Score:2)
A "normal" laptop costs in the $400-$600 range for typical machines aimed at the consumer market, going into the $800-$1200 range for the typical business focused products that come with Windows Pro licenses and such. Obviously you can go to more expensive machines with higher specs as well.
So, where do you see a "Apple priced or even above Apple prices" being viable for these consumer-grade laptops? If the goal is to get the overall computer market in the USA to buy "made fully in the USA, then you can
import tariffs? (Score:2)
That is the only thing I can think of at the moment.
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Whatever number Luckey comes up with, expect that to be the new laptop tariff.
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Re:I have a quesion (Score:5, Informative)
"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.â
- Authur Schopenhauer , a miserable old bastard who was none the less right about most things.
Its fine to be fond of your own country, but its a dull and useless thing to think it better than any other country. The simple fact is, the US doesn't have the capacity to entirely manufacture a modern computer, and that particular fact doesn't matter since a slab of silicon has no innate features that cares one iota which particular set of national borders it was made in, nor does the remarkably low unemployment rate in the US (low 4%) particularly justify settling for inferior or expensive to aquire one purely US manufactured, even if it was available.
Re:I have a quesion (Score:4, Interesting)
Covid-19 and "the chip shortage" gave us a light preview of what disruptions in the global supply chain, and specifically China, could do.
Or from other POVs look at Germany and Russian Natural Gas. Or Russia vs ... everyone. Or China and AI chips. Having domestic production capacity for critical things is a good thing, even if it costs somewhat more and is thus not the most efficient in the short or medium term.
Computers (and phones) are critical things to the US economy. If we got into a real tiff with China, we'd be kinda screwed. Taking action to build capacity so that we could at least ramp things up if we needed to... is a good idea, imo.
(how much of a premium ... idk. 20% i'd pay , but it sounds very optimistic tbh for a phone. most real Made in the USA stuff other than like cars is easily 2x as expensive.)
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"If we got into a real tiff with China, we'd be kinda screwed."
Which is the argument for increased trade in the first place. The argument you are presenting is that we should be isolationist so there are fewer consequences when we murder people.
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"but its a dull and useless thing to think it better than any other country."
I'm no patriot, but I'll disagree with that. If someone thinks they're not in the best country, they should relocate to whatever country they think is better.
It's no mystery why more people relocate to, say, the U.S., than, say, Mexico, even if it means doing so illegally.
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I'm no patriot, but I'll disagree with that. If someone thinks they're not in the best country, they should relocate to whatever country they think is better.
Only if your goal is to live in the best country, something which might not be as interesting to some people as to you.
Re:I have a quesion (Score:4, Interesting)
"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.â
- Authur Schopenhauer , a miserable old bastard who was none the less right about most things.
Its fine to be fond of your own country, but its a dull and useless thing to think it better than any other country. The simple fact is, the US doesn't have the capacity to entirely manufacture a modern computer, and that particular fact doesn't matter since a slab of silicon has no innate features that cares one iota which particular set of national borders it was made in, nor does the remarkably low unemployment rate in the US (low 4%) particularly justify settling for inferior or expensive to aquire one purely US manufactured, even if it was available.
The problem with the US is not just the level of jingoism, but the level of jingoism with the idea of American exceptionalism.
It's not enough for Americans to believe that the US is a good place to live, it must always and automatically be the best at everything. So when they're confronted with the truth that parts of the US and US society are not very good they must create a fantasy world that every other country must be worse. This has lead to some very odd conversations with Americans where they're shocked to find out that we're not having daily riots here in Europe, we haven't been overtaken by whatever bad guy Fox News is spouting, we have decent health care, jobs, so on and so forth because they've been trained to believe that things have to be worse in every other country and the US has reached a point where it can no longer hide the problems it has.
I work with a German guy who moved to the UK and conversations often go "I like X about the UK and I think Germany does Y better", I think most people can happily admit that both Germany and the UK are good places to live.
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Is that sad? Why?
I'm honestly curious, because your viewpoint is foreign to me. I care about people, not countries. I don't think some people are better or more important than others, just because they live in the same country as me. It makes me happy when people in my country do good things, and sad when they do bad things. But that's also true with regard to people in other countries.
Why do you see that as sad?
Re: I have a quesion (Score:2)
Re:I have a quesion (Score:5, Informative)
Why would I care if it's made in America?
As a Canadian, I can tell you that we suddenly care a lot if something's made in America... so we can avoid buying it.
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Why would I care if it's made in America?
As a Canadian, I can tell you that we suddenly care a lot if something's made in America... so we can avoid buying it.
As an American, I'd be doing the same if I were in your shoes.
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I don't know why Canadians feel the need to express this
1} Because the lies and abuse haven't stopped.
2} Because we're still angry. We're the country known for apologizing for stuff so... if we're passive-aggressively saying "we don't want to buy your stuff", the level of resentment behind it is more like New-Yorker-knocked-down-on-the-subway-and-their-icecream-fell-on-the-floor level.
, it is abundantly clear that two thirds of Americans are on Canada's side.
First up let's not kid ourselves. Polls and surveys have shown that most Americans think about Canada about as often as most Canadians think about Mexico. Which is to say... al
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I don't much care if China pollutes itself.
Sure, SOME of it may eventually come my way. Not enough to matter.
Re: I have a quesion (Score:2)
You can actually kill them off, by taking their healthcare away. Takes a bit longer, though. Tariffs will immediately impact purchasing power.
Re: I have a quesion (Score:2)
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Oh I would definately not fuck that guy. Putting aside my decidedly vanilla sexual orientation. If I did swing that way, I strongly suspect he'd very much not be my type lol.
The dudes creepy as hell.
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That stuff left in the 80s and he'd have to build it up from scratch
It's doable, if he gets a couple of Chinese engineers to help. Designing and building factories is an art in itself, one we've largely lost in the West. But in China, they know how to set up an automated factory, producing goods to the right tolerances, and applying automated QA. They do that pretty much every day.