US Expands Export Blacklist To Keep Computing Tech Out of China (theverge.com) 28
The U.S. has added 80 entities to its export blacklist to prevent China from acquiring advanced American chips for military development, including AI, quantum tech, and hypersonic weapons. The Verge reports: More than 50 of the new entities added to the list are based in China, with others located in Iran, Taiwan, Pakistan, South Africa, and the United Arab Emirates. BIS says the restrictions have been applied to entities that acted "contrary to US national security and foreign policy," and are intended to hinder China's ability to develop high-performance computing capabilities, quantum technologies, advanced artificial intelligence, and hypersonic weapons.
Six of the newly blacklisted entities are subsidiaries of Inspur Group -- China's leading cloud computing service provider and a major customer for US chip makers such as Nvidia, AMD, and Intel -- which BIS alleges had contributed to projects developing supercomputers for the Chinese military. The Beijing Academy of Artificial Intelligence is another addition to the list, which has criticized its inclusion. "American technology should never be used against the American people," said Jeffrey Kessler, Under Secretary of Commerce for Industry and Security. "BIS is sending a clear, resounding message that the Trump administration will work tirelessly to safeguard our national security by preventing U.S. technologies and goods from being misused for high performance computing, hypersonic missiles, military aircraft training, and UAVs that threaten our national security."
Six of the newly blacklisted entities are subsidiaries of Inspur Group -- China's leading cloud computing service provider and a major customer for US chip makers such as Nvidia, AMD, and Intel -- which BIS alleges had contributed to projects developing supercomputers for the Chinese military. The Beijing Academy of Artificial Intelligence is another addition to the list, which has criticized its inclusion. "American technology should never be used against the American people," said Jeffrey Kessler, Under Secretary of Commerce for Industry and Security. "BIS is sending a clear, resounding message that the Trump administration will work tirelessly to safeguard our national security by preventing U.S. technologies and goods from being misused for high performance computing, hypersonic missiles, military aircraft training, and UAVs that threaten our national security."
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Let's see what happened last time tariffs of this scale were implemented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Oh dear...
Full Speed (Score:2)
China going full spered ahead will no longer need American tech. They got the money and engineering to rapidly eclipse the US's tech. In 10 years China will have totally surpassed the US tech.Trump is not helping either with his defunding and mass firings. China is taking the opportunity to recruit. Trump is stupid .. but eh .. that's what they wanted to elect .. an idiot , that's what they have.
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But at least we owned the libs.
Re: Full Speed (Score:2)
And got owned by China in the process?
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BUT, China cannot catch up to the US without US tech.
"There's no way this can go wrong, we thought of everything!" - every zombie/disaster movie just before the containment fails.
China has been having more engineers in training than the US has engineers in total. You can see the results with DeepSeek. All while the Chinese government pumps hundreds of billions in subsidies for the high-tech sector.
Meanwhile, Trump is trying to terminate and claw back funds for the CHIPS program.
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The biggest thing they're missing is an idea Livermore, Sandia and Lawrence Berkeley decided was probably possible and licensed to Intel, another Silicon Valley chipmaker, and some obscure Dutch company. The first two couldn't make anything of it, leaving the Dutch company to work on it for 20 years and finally make something that worked. Oh, and they're also missing a bunch of optimization and process design some Taiwanese company did.
So China is maybe 20 years behind that Dutch company, except that they'v
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For the rest of your neighbors we're stuck with either China who wants our destruction, or Trump who also wants our destruction. Not a pleasant spot to be in.
I am less sure about China than I used to be. China does want world domination to be sure, but they seem to want economic control more than military or political. Historically, Chinese rulers, and now the CCP, have always been extremely xenophobic. They made conquests in the past, but never really held them because Chinese rulers don't seem to want
Re: Full Speed (Score:1)
> BOTH of those countries have as a goal the complete destruction of the West
This discredits your view totally, on two grounds. 1. We're talking about China (specifically PRC), NOT Russia, and 2. No, that is not China's (specifically PRC) goal.
In fact, the USA, is EXACTLY what you describe - they want to destroy anything that threatens to surpass themselves.
Frankly, it's amazing that so few westerners can see this. It is REALLY obvious.
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Wrong. China went from 0 to competitive in 2 generations. Their rate of progress is higher than anybody in history. Also, people forget they have little holding them back from reverse engineering, copying, and even out right stealing technology - though most the time the USA just sold or shared with them most everything they wanted!! They know what is possible which saves massive effort exploring dead ends! But they can go beyond simply saving decades of false starts and dead ends; they can reverse engine
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The point is to give supply lines and manufacturing chains time to set up in alternative locations.
This is increasingly... (Score:5, Insightful)
...futile and counterproductive
Chinese scientists and engineers are smart, really smart, some of the smartest in the world
If current trends continue, China will become the world leader in science, technology, medicine, manufacturing, etc, while the US abandons education, vilifies intellectuals and becomes a heavily armed nation of angry, poorly educated religious extremists.
Re:This is increasingly... (Score:5, Funny)
heavily armed nation of angry, poorly educated religious extremists.
"You're saying this as if it's a bad thing", signed, 50% of the US.
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If that trend carries on, the weapons they have will not stay as some of the top gear in the world.
China (or some other countries) will eventually surpass it.
I feel like that ship has already sailed (Score:2)
China already has AI tech equal to the US and Europe, you can't put that genie back in the bottle. Seems like a waste of time and effort. Like banning the sale of internal combustion engines to keep china from developing cars at this point.
This is toooo good (Score:3)
This blacklist is precisely what he is worried about. By blacklisting large customers from buying American tech, China is forced to develop their own.
Humor me.
China can't buy state of the art tech
China builds a competing product.
They use that tech to build their own new products.
They sell their tech for much cheaper
The rest of the world buys cheaper stuff from China.
Western companies can't compete
I just ordered a bunch of Chinese FPGA development kits. I would have bought Intel, but they're too expensive. Thanks to US blacklists, China built some cool looking FPGAs, they're 22nm, but I'm not making GPUs and I'm guessing 14nm and probably is coming soon. I'm excited to try them. They claim to have 12.5ghz serdes.
Russian state of the art ICBM Missiles (Score:2)
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GOWIN parts, e.g. Sipeed Tang? Those are really nice FPGAs, and the development software is actually better than the competing Western stuff in many ways.
Now step two: (Score:2)
Step two: create a list of countries who are willing to rigorously enforce list #1.
Step three: profit!
Too little too late (Score:2)