'A New Gaming CPU King': AMD's New Ryzen 7 9800X3D Reviewed 52
"AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D debuts with impressive performance gains, powered by advanced 3D V-Cache technology and improved thermal efficiency," writes Slashdot reader jjslash. "While the CPU shines as a top choice right out of the gate, AMD's history of quick price cuts suggests waiting could yield even better value for savvy buyers." TechSpot reports: Today we're finally able to show you how AMD's new Ryzen 7 9800X3D performs, and spoiler alert -- it's a real weapon that solves the issues we encountered with the non-3D Zen 5 chips before this. Without question, this is the best CPU released since the 7800X3D, making this launch particularly exciting. [...] For now, the 9800X3D is mighty impressive, the undisputed king of gaming, and it marks a historic milestone. We don't think AMD has ever been this dominant over Intel, certainly not in the last 15 years.
Truthfully AMD is competing with themselves (Score:2)
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I will say I find it interesting 7zip style tests dont yield faster results, as cache is there to queue data while the CPU works. A large zip file should benefit from this.
My 7850X3D died... No thanks (Score:1)
Spent 600 dollars on a monster CPU when it was brand spanking new, something I haven't done since the 90's... and the effing thing died in the middle of a game. No overclocking, just dead. Replaced it with a 200 dollar 7600X and undervolt it to 1.2 volts and the fan barely has to turn on. Games play fine as well. It'll be a long time before I hop back onto the bleeding edge.
Re:My 7850X3D died... No thanks (Score:5, Interesting)
Wait, your CPU died and you paid money for a replacement despite your description obviously being covered under warranty? Are you stupid or lying?
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I had no faith in that model of CPU. I asked if it could be replaced with a different model and they said no... So I ate the loss. Is that really so hard to understand?
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No offense dude but that was a known bug that AMD fixed promptly by forcing motherboards to limit vSoC unless you manually screwed with it. 7950X3Ds don't burn out like that anymore, and they haven't for a long time.
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They were fiddling with bios updates for months and months... I stopped really looking for a fix from them when i saw they were just throwing darts. I'm glad they sorted it eventually. This 7600X has been running rock solid since then. My last system was an Intel 5930K that I had for something like 7 years. In 5 years or so I'll pop up and see what's new again. I'll wait a few months after release next time though.
If you buy this new CPU... (Score:1)
...make sure to buy an industrial sized chiller for your room, lest you desire to cook yourself to death from heat prostration.
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Hol' up.... so, instead of saying "Yeah, give me a new 7850X3D that I can flip on eBay and then buy the chip I want." you said "Nah, if you're not gonna give me the one I want I'll just buy another one and you can keep my money, thanks."
Either there's more to this story... or there isn't because it's bullshit.
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It was outside of warrantee and that pisses me off as well. What makes you think replacing a poorly engineered part with a replacement poorly engineered part is a good idea? That CPU is out of my circle of trust. My $hit is mission critical, I'm not screwing around to beta test for AMD.
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Yes, effing mission critical. I do my day job on this setup and GASP!! play games too. The 7850X3D is well known as a lemon (discovered after I bought it). Never again.
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Dude the 7850X3D doesn't exist, it's 7950X3D, are you just astroturfing? Plus it was a bug with the way motherboards were setting vSoC with EXPO memory kits. Basically you had to manually set vSoC to 1.15v or lower until the new AGESA version was released that fixed the problem once and for all. The replacement part would have been rock solid. It is not "known as a lemon".
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No i duffed up... I should have written 7950x3d. They didn't fix it very fast. I was a day 1 purchase and it was months and months of bios updates. Go look at Amazon reviews, the last few months have a bunch of 'My CPU died' complaints... still. (Maybe un-updated mobos but still).
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They fixed it faster than Intel fixed Raptor Lake. But whatever mango, I'm on a tech forum elsewhere where we had multiple users working through the trouble and at least as far as most of them were concerned, the fixes came pretty quickly. Granted we didn't get many burnouts either.
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There was a known workaround though, disable EXPO and set the SoC voltage to max. 1.25V manually in the BIOS. Also it was a motherboard issue, not a CPU issue so it doesn't make the 7950X3D (or the 7800X3D which suffered the same issue) a lemon.
The 7950X3D's main problem is that the 3d cache was only implemented for half the cores.
Re: My 7850X3D died... No thanks (Score:1)
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Outside the return window, I should have said...
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Actually i accepted the replacement part and gave it to a friends son.
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I didn't think I lied anywhere... I duffed the model but tried not to lie anywhere.
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Re: My 7850X3D died... No thanks (Score:3)
I think youâ(TM)re lying.
If you bought the cpu yourself it would still be under warranty. AMD CPU box Warranties last three years and the 7950x3d isnâ(TM)t even two years old.
EU law is two years for all electronics too, so even if youâ(TM)re not in the US, odds are you are from somewhere that the warranty hasnâ(TM)t expired from even today.
Even if you chose to downgrade youâ(TM)d have been able to sell the replacement, so not doing the warranty is akin to throwing away $500+ from ut
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7950X3D (That was my bad saying 7850x3d), purchased from newegg on release day. I had the CPU installed for 3 months and it died while playing a game. At the time there were a lot of problems like this in the news and it wasn't clear what was at fault. Motherboard companies were blamed, AMD was blamed... (The CPU runs at 90C for Christ sake so maybe AMD was wrong thinking 90C was ok)... Point was, it was a big mystery and I WAS offered a replacement 7950X3D from AMD, and I took it... But the architecture
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I tried to clarify my incorrect phrasing in a later post - out of the return window from NewEgg. Jeez, there's nothing evil going on here. Sorry for the confusion.
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It was outside of warrantee and that pisses me off as well. What makes you think replacing a poorly engineered part with a replacement poorly engineered part is a good idea?
Simple: Because it isn't a poorly engineered part. There were problems in specific batches of the 7850X3D only and it works fine for the overwhelming majority of users. And you saying "no thanks" seems to indicate you have no idea of any engineering what so ever since the 9800X3D is *checks notes* not the 7850X3D. Huh, whodathought!
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As an aside, one of the main reasons it was such a problem for them specifically was because the earlier generations had to stack the cache on top of the CCD. It took time to red
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Yes and no. The issues were early on and corrected, so there's no justification for moving on. But in any case, starting the post with "no thanks" like the OP did shows a fundamental lack of understanding given that the chip we are talking about is not even the same series as the one he complained about.
It's like saying I had a Ford Escape with a blown engine so I'm definitely not buying a Ford F-150. It's just a stupid comment.
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No i screwed up. I should have wrote 7950x3d... sorry.
Just need 1000hz monitors now (Score:2)
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You wouldn't happen to have a link to substantiate 1000 Hz by chance?
There are decreasing returns past 120 Hz. (I haven't used a 240 Hz monitor to know if it actually makes a difference or not but there is a notably difference between 60 Hz and 120 Hz refresh rates.)
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https://blurbusters.com/blur-b... [blurbusters.com]
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Thanks! Blur Busters is a great site. I used to link to ther FPS / Motion tests years ago so people could visually see the difference between a crappy 30 FPS and smoother 60 FPS. I wondered what they were up to.
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It's due to differences between sample and hold and true progressive scan. A gaming CRT like a 21-24" trinitron looked better and had far more fluent motion even at 85hz than sample and hold flatpanels do even at 165hz.
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We don't need to match CRT, we just need to beat biology. Show us evidence that you can tell anything about 144Hz.
Re: Just need 1000hz monitors now (Score:1)
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Saying something isn't evidence. It is evidence of failing an argument. Show us the evidence. No, no one here trusts your word random internet stranger.
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A wonderful CPU (Score:2)
For the price of a full gaming console.
The tech reviewers have lost their minds. How is this a "great" CPU is beyond me.
This is a fucking rip off. Enjoy your lack of competition and struggling Intel. AMD after all is not averse to gouging hard. Not their first foray into doing this, just remember the FX-57 at more than $1000 back in the early 00s.
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The tech reviewers have lost their minds. How is this a "great" CPU is beyond me.
It beat all previous CPUs in benchmarks while not using the vast amount of power the Intel ones used.
AMD after all is not averse to gouging hard.
You are aware AMD makes other CPUs right including the ones used in both the Xbox and PS5?
hardware great, software shit (Score:2)
A cool new graphics processor is fun, albeit is limited use when the games purple are generally playing are 10+ years old. (Shrug)
But does it run Linux? (Score:3)
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Very good [phoronix.com]: