'A New Gaming CPU King': AMD's New Ryzen 7 9800X3D Reviewed

"AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D debuts with impressive performance gains, powered by advanced 3D V-Cache technology and improved thermal efficiency," writes Slashdot reader jjslash. "While the CPU shines as a top choice right out of the gate, AMD's history of quick price cuts suggests waiting could yield even better value for savvy buyers." TechSpot reports: Today we're finally able to show you how AMD's new Ryzen 7 9800X3D performs, and spoiler alert -- it's a real weapon that solves the issues we encountered with the non-3D Zen 5 chips before this. Without question, this is the best CPU released since the 7800X3D, making this launch particularly exciting. [...] For now, the 9800X3D is mighty impressive, the undisputed king of gaming, and it marks a historic milestone. We don't think AMD has ever been this dominant over Intel, certainly not in the last 15 years.

Truthfully AMD is competing with themselves

[Papaspud]

the 3D cache chips have been so good, unless you are running 1080p at superhigh framerates, a 5800 3xd is still an awesome chip. You still don't really need to upgrade even yet, I will say this 9800 X3D does look like a chip for many years of FAST gaming.

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[jhoegl]

Its more the architecture is proof that cache on the CPU is very important for gaming.

I will say I find it interesting 7zip style tests dont yield faster results, as cache is there to queue data while the CPU works. A large zip file should benefit from this.

My 7850X3D died... No thanks

[Talon0ne]

Spent 600 dollars on a monster CPU when it was brand spanking new, something I haven't done since the 90's... and the effing thing died in the middle of a game. No overclocking, just dead. Replaced it with a 200 dollar 7600X and undervolt it to 1.2 volts and the fan barely has to turn on. Games play fine as well. It'll be a long time before I hop back onto the bleeding edge.

Re:My 7850X3D died... No thanks

[thegarbz]

Wait, your CPU died and you paid money for a replacement despite your description obviously being covered under warranty? Are you stupid or lying?

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[keltor]

Definitely makes no sense, the 7850X3D is covered unless he delidded it or something like that. It has a 3 year warranty AND due to some yield fun times, they were giving everyone 7950X3Ds.

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[Talon0ne]

I had no faith in that model of CPU. I asked if it could be replaced with a different model and they said no... So I ate the loss. Is that really so hard to understand?

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[DrMrLordX]

No offense dude but that was a known bug that AMD fixed promptly by forcing motherboards to limit vSoC unless you manually screwed with it. 7950X3Ds don't burn out like that anymore, and they haven't for a long time.

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[Talon0ne]

They were fiddling with bios updates for months and months... I stopped really looking for a fix from them when i saw they were just throwing darts. I'm glad they sorted it eventually. This 7600X has been running rock solid since then. My last system was an Intel 5930K that I had for something like 7 years. In 5 years or so I'll pop up and see what's new again. I'll wait a few months after release next time though.

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[Talon0ne]

It was outside of warrantee and that pisses me off as well. What makes you think replacing a poorly engineered part with a replacement poorly engineered part is a good idea? That CPU is out of my circle of trust. My $hit is mission critical, I'm not screwing around to beta test for AMD.

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[Talon0ne]

Yes, effing mission critical. I do my day job on this setup and GASP!! play games too. The 7850X3D is well known as a lemon (discovered after I bought it). Never again.

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[DrMrLordX]

Dude the 7850X3D doesn't exist, it's 7950X3D, are you just astroturfing? Plus it was a bug with the way motherboards were setting vSoC with EXPO memory kits. Basically you had to manually set vSoC to 1.15v or lower until the new AGESA version was released that fixed the problem once and for all. The replacement part would have been rock solid. It is not "known as a lemon".

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[Talon0ne]

No i duffed up... I should have written 7950x3d. They didn't fix it very fast. I was a day 1 purchase and it was months and months of bios updates. Go look at Amazon reviews, the last few months have a bunch of 'My CPU died' complaints... still. (Maybe un-updated mobos but still).

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[DrMrLordX]

They fixed it faster than Intel fixed Raptor Lake. But whatever mango, I'm on a tech forum elsewhere where we had multiple users working through the trouble and at least as far as most of them were concerned, the fixes came pretty quickly. Granted we didn't get many burnouts either.

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[Talon0ne]

Outside the return window, I should have said...

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[Xenx]

In all fairness, there were power delivery config issues causing the 7000X3D cpus to burn out. Because the issue at least predominately affected the 7000X3D cpus, it would be understandable that they would opt to move away from them at the time. It sounds like they ultimately didn't need/care about the extra performance in the end.

As an aside, one of the main reasons it was such a problem for them specifically was because the earlier generations had to stack the cache on top of the CCD. It took time to red

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[Jay Vickery]

Forgive me if my ignorance is showing but 7850x3D? Is that a typo? 7950x3D and 7800x3D I know of but haven't heard of that model...

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[Talon0ne]

No i screwed up. I should have wrote 7950x3d... sorry.

Just need 1000hz monitors now

[ZERO1ZERO]

1000hz should be just about enough for crt like motion and completely independent refresh regions.