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'A New Gaming CPU King': AMD's New Ryzen 7 9800X3D Reviewed 52

Posted by BeauHD from the not-too-shabby dept.
"AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D debuts with impressive performance gains, powered by advanced 3D V-Cache technology and improved thermal efficiency," writes Slashdot reader jjslash. "While the CPU shines as a top choice right out of the gate, AMD's history of quick price cuts suggests waiting could yield even better value for savvy buyers." TechSpot reports: Today we're finally able to show you how AMD's new Ryzen 7 9800X3D performs, and spoiler alert -- it's a real weapon that solves the issues we encountered with the non-3D Zen 5 chips before this. Without question, this is the best CPU released since the 7800X3D, making this launch particularly exciting. [...] For now, the 9800X3D is mighty impressive, the undisputed king of gaming, and it marks a historic milestone. We don't think AMD has ever been this dominant over Intel, certainly not in the last 15 years.
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  • the 3D cache chips have been so good, unless you are running 1080p at superhigh framerates, a 5800 3xd is still an awesome chip. You still don't really need to upgrade even yet, I will say this 9800 X3D does look like a chip for many years of FAST gaming.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by jhoegl ( 638955 )
      Its more the architecture is proof that cache on the CPU is very important for gaming.

      I will say I find it interesting 7zip style tests dont yield faster results, as cache is there to queue data while the CPU works. A large zip file should benefit from this.

  • Spent 600 dollars on a monster CPU when it was brand spanking new, something I haven't done since the 90's... and the effing thing died in the middle of a game. No overclocking, just dead. Replaced it with a 200 dollar 7600X and undervolt it to 1.2 volts and the fan barely has to turn on. Games play fine as well. It'll be a long time before I hop back onto the bleeding edge.

    • Re:My 7850X3D died... No thanks (Score:5, Interesting)

      by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:34PM (#64926249)

      Wait, your CPU died and you paid money for a replacement despite your description obviously being covered under warranty? Are you stupid or lying?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by keltor ( 99721 ) *
        Definitely makes no sense, the 7850X3D is covered unless he delidded it or something like that. It has a 3 year warranty AND due to some yield fun times, they were giving everyone 7950X3Ds.

        • I had no faith in that model of CPU. I asked if it could be replaced with a different model and they said no... So I ate the loss. Is that really so hard to understand?

          • No offense dude but that was a known bug that AMD fixed promptly by forcing motherboards to limit vSoC unless you manually screwed with it. 7950X3Ds don't burn out like that anymore, and they haven't for a long time.

            • They were fiddling with bios updates for months and months... I stopped really looking for a fix from them when i saw they were just throwing darts. I'm glad they sorted it eventually. This 7600X has been running rock solid since then. My last system was an Intel 5930K that I had for something like 7 years. In 5 years or so I'll pop up and see what's new again. I'll wait a few months after release next time though.

              • If you buy this new CPU... (Score:1)

                by Anonymous Coward

                ...make sure to buy an industrial sized chiller for your room, lest you desire to cook yourself to death from heat prostration.

          • Hol' up.... so, instead of saying "Yeah, give me a new 7850X3D that I can flip on eBay and then buy the chip I want." you said "Nah, if you're not gonna give me the one I want I'll just buy another one and you can keep my money, thanks."

            Either there's more to this story... or there isn't because it's bullshit.

          • No mass produced product in the history of the world has 0% defects. Maybe you just got a bad CPU; however, in your case you paid for a lower model rather than a free replacement. A choice was still to get the free replacement and then buy another if that failed. But that was not the choice you made.

      • It was outside of warrantee and that pisses me off as well. What makes you think replacing a poorly engineered part with a replacement poorly engineered part is a good idea? That CPU is out of my circle of trust. My $hit is mission critical, I'm not screwing around to beta test for AMD.

        • Outside the return window, I should have said...

        • I think youâ(TM)re lying.

          If you bought the cpu yourself it would still be under warranty. AMD CPU box Warranties last three years and the 7950x3d isnâ(TM)t even two years old.

          EU law is two years for all electronics too, so even if youâ(TM)re not in the US, odds are you are from somewhere that the warranty hasnâ(TM)t expired from even today.

          Even if you chose to downgrade youâ(TM)d have been able to sell the replacement, so not doing the warranty is akin to throwing away $500+ from ut

        • How is a ”brand spanking new" AMD CPU out of warranty? Unless you mean "brand spanking new" to mean more than AMD's limited 3 year coverage. Considering the 7800x3D was released in April 2023, the 3 years have not expired yet. Unless you modified it like delidding, it was still under warranty. Your story makes no sense or is missing details. Especially since you admitted in another thread that you were offered a free replacement but chose to pay for a different processor.

          • 7950X3D (That was my bad saying 7850x3d), purchased from newegg on release day. I had the CPU installed for 3 months and it died while playing a game. At the time there were a lot of problems like this in the news and it wasn't clear what was at fault. Motherboard companies were blamed, AMD was blamed... (The CPU runs at 90C for Christ sake so maybe AMD was wrong thinking 90C was ok)... Point was, it was a big mystery and I WAS offered a replacement 7950X3D from AMD, and I took it... But the architecture

            • You provide a lot of details and contradict yourself from earlier posts. You said it was out of warranty but now you said you were offered a replacement and you "took it". But in the next sentence you say you did not use the CPU and bought another one. Leaving out all those details paints a very different picture of what happened.

              • I tried to clarify my incorrect phrasing in a later post - out of the return window from NewEgg. Jeez, there's nothing evil going on here. Sorry for the confusion.

        • It was outside of warrantee and that pisses me off as well. What makes you think replacing a poorly engineered part with a replacement poorly engineered part is a good idea?

          Simple: Because it isn't a poorly engineered part. There were problems in specific batches of the 7850X3D only and it works fine for the overwhelming majority of users. And you saying "no thanks" seems to indicate you have no idea of any engineering what so ever since the 9800X3D is *checks notes* not the 7850X3D. Huh, whodathought!

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Xenx ( 2211586 )
        In all fairness, there were power delivery config issues causing the 7000X3D cpus to burn out. Because the issue at least predominately affected the 7000X3D cpus, it would be understandable that they would opt to move away from them at the time. It sounds like they ultimately didn't need/care about the extra performance in the end.

        As an aside, one of the main reasons it was such a problem for them specifically was because the earlier generations had to stack the cache on top of the CCD. It took time to red

        • Yes and no. The issues were early on and corrected, so there's no justification for moving on. But in any case, starting the post with "no thanks" like the OP did shows a fundamental lack of understanding given that the chip we are talking about is not even the same series as the one he complained about.

          It's like saying I had a Ford Escape with a blown engine so I'm definitely not buying a Ford F-150. It's just a stupid comment.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by Xenx ( 2211586 )
            It took a couple weeks to resolve. I'm not saying I would necessarily do what they did, in that situation, but I have done similar. I had to RMA my motherboard a year ago, so bought a different motherboard on sale to cover the time I'd be down. I expected a couple weeks, to a month. It ended up being a back and forth fiasco with Gigabyte, not getting resolved for about three-four months. Finally got it replaced by them, a refurb, and the replacement had entirely different problems. It's now sitting in the b
    • Forgive me if my ignorance is showing but 7850x3D? Is that a typo? 7950x3D and 7800x3D I know of but haven't heard of that model...
  • 1000hz should be just about enough for crt like motion and completely independent refresh regions.

  • For the price of a full gaming console.

    The tech reviewers have lost their minds. How is this a "great" CPU is beyond me.

    This is a fucking rip off. Enjoy your lack of competition and struggling Intel. AMD after all is not averse to gouging hard. Not their first foray into doing this, just remember the FX-57 at more than $1000 back in the early 00s.

    • The tech reviewers have lost their minds. How is this a "great" CPU is beyond me.

      It beat all previous CPUs in benchmarks while not using the vast amount of power the Intel ones used.

      AMD after all is not averse to gouging hard.

      You are aware AMD makes other CPUs right including the ones used in both the Xbox and PS5?

  • A cool new graphics processor is fun, albeit is limited use when the games purple are generally playing are 10+ years old. (Shrug)

  • But does it run Linux? (Score:3)

    by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Thursday November 07, 2024 @10:07AM (#64927657)
    Actually a good question for this, how is the Linux support?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by SST-206 ( 699646 )

      Very good [phoronix.com]:

      Like with the other AMD Ryzen 9000 series processors and the AMD EPYC 9005 server parts, the Ryzen 7 9800X3D was working without issue on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Any modern Linux distribution should basically be in good shape for the AMD Ryzen 9000 series processors. The one recent caveat is needing Linux 6.12+ for the AMD Zen 5 CPU power reporting if that is important to you otherwise it's an easy one-liner patch to backport.

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