Want to read Slashdot from your mobile device? Point it at m.slashdot.org and keep reading!

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
AI Hardware

Raspberry Pi Launches Camera Module For Vision-Based AI Applications (techcrunch.com) 15

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: Raspberry Pi, the company that sells tiny, cheap, single-board computers, is releasing an add-on that is going to open up several use cases -- and yes, because it's 2024, there's an AI angle. Called the Raspberry Pi AI Camera, this image sensor comes with on-board AI processing and is going to cost $70. In more technical terms, the AI Camera is based on a Sony image sensor (the IMX500) paired with a RP2040, Raspberry Pi's own microcontroller chip with on-chip SRAM. Like the rest of the line-up, the RP2040 follows Raspberry Pi's overall philosophy -- it is inexpensive yet efficient. In other words, AI startups aren't going to replace their Nvidia GPUs with RP2040 chips for inference. But when you pair it with an image sensor, you get an extension module that can capture images and process those images through common neural network models. As an added benefit, on-board processing on the camera module means that the host Raspberry Pi isn't affected by visual data processing. The Raspberry Pi remains free to perform other operations -- you don't need to add a separate accelerator. The new module is compatible with all Raspberry Pi computers.

This isn't Raspberry Pi's first camera module. The company still sells the Raspberry Pi Camera Module 3, a simple 12-megapixel image sensor from Sony (IMX708) mounted on a small add-on board that you can pair with a Raspberry Pi with a ribbon cable. As Raspberry Pi promises to keep production running for many years, the Camera Module 3 will remain available for around $25. The AI Camera is the same size as the Camera Module 3 (25mm x 24mm) but slightly thicker due to the structure of the optical sensor. It comes pre-loaded with the MobileNet-SSD model, an object detection model that can run in realtime.

This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

Raspberry Pi Launches Camera Module For Vision-Based AI Applications

Comments Filter:
  • Bad tech writing (Score:5, Informative)

    by TurboStar ( 712836 ) on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:31PM (#64829837)

    "AI startups aren't going to replace their Nvidia GPUs with RP2040 chips" is extremely misleading. The IMX500 does the AI work. The RP2040 is just an interface adapter.

    • don't they use the GPUs mostly for training new models ?
      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        Yes. And the IMX500 only seems to have 8 MB of memory for everything (firmware, model weights, etc.) so any old GPU should work fine for training any model you could fit on the thing.

  • As soon as they figure out how to move, they will start taking over the world!
  • by ctilsie242 ( 4841247 ) on Monday September 30, 2024 @07:40PM (#64829991)

    This is definitely useful for onboard Obico checking of 3D prints in progress to check for layer shifts, prints not sticking to the bed, pasta, or the start of blobs of death.

    Yes, Bambu printers do this, but it is nice to have a F/OSS version, preferably with the LLM hosted locally for security reasons to go through and ensure things don't break in a crazy manner.

  • by Bitmanhome ( 254112 ) <bitman@pob[ ]com ['ox.' in gap]> on Monday September 30, 2024 @08:36PM (#64830091)

    The sensor is pretty sweet, 12 megapixel supporting 4k60 and 2k240 video modes. Weirdly there are no specs on the AI processor. I'd view this more as a way to get the IMX500 sensor if you're interested in that. If you're interested in embedded AI, you might look at the Luxonis options, which work with the Pi over USB.

  • by PPH ( 736903 ) on Monday September 30, 2024 @09:29PM (#64830151)

    ... my battery life.

  • The SONY IMX500 is about 1 TOPS. The existing RPi kit with Hailo-8L NPU found in the Raspberry Pi AI Kit is 13 TOPS.
    https://www.raspberrypi.com/pr... [raspberrypi.com]
    Price? $70 versus $120 plus RPI5 cost?
    Power consumption?
    This is a competitor to the Sipeed MaixCam: https://wiki.sipeed.com/hardwa... [sipeed.com]
    Sipeeed have been making this stuff for a while... nice little modules, but the English documentation is a little bit thin sometimes....

    • Or the Jetson Nano, at 40 TOPS:
      https://developer.nvidia.com/e... [nvidia.com]

    • by udif ( 32355 ) on Tuesday October 01, 2024 @12:55AM (#64830351)

      1. TOPS are like MIPS. You need to measure actual performance, not just multiple number of MACs by the clock rate. You network has other parts beyond the MAC units, and if you are not efficient, it is going to slow you down, no matter how many TOPS/s your MACs do, similar to Amdahl's law for multiprocessing.
      2. The IMX500 has been announced on May 2020, and has a mature toolset. It's just this specific RPi product that is new.
      3. Check the TOPS/W, not only TOPS, but even TOPS/W numbers are skewed (https://semiengineering.com/lies-damn-lies-and-tops-watt/).
      4. Even better, check actual benchmarks: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.078... [arxiv.org]

      • Yes, good points. I had not thought this through yet. I will get a Raspberry Pi AI camera when they are generally available.

        One weak point of the IMX500: it only has 8 Mb of memory, limiting what models you can run.
        https://developer.aitrios.sony... [sony-semicon.com]

        Sipeed had modules like this two or three years ago. They have moved on to make more useful cameras like the MaixII and MaixCam. The MaixCam has 256 Mb ram and costs ~$70 with screen and camera, and ~$40 with only camera. The 500 mA (max) power is not too bad, si

  • I worked for a candy factory as a guy that just wrote down the timings of the equipment and then solved a formula afterwards. I was embarassed at how easily automatable my job could have been, but it paid $10/hr with a day and night shift. I have since tried to propose using cameras to monitor the candy timing as it would basically be color detection with slight variations to know when candy was passing through the machine.

    I don't work there anymore though, and they seem largely uninterested. An rPi with

If all else fails, lower your standards.

Working...