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Dropbox-like Cloud Storage Service Shadow Drive Lowers Its Price (techcrunch.com) 22

Shadow has decided to cut the price of its cloud storage service Shadow Drive. Users can now get 2TB of storage for $5.3 per month instead of $9.6 per month. From a report: As for the free tier, things aren't changing. Users who sign up get 20GB of online storage for free. Shadow is also the company behind Shadow PC, a cloud computing service that lets you rent a virtual instance of a Windows PC in a data center near you. It works particularly well to play demanding PC games on any device, such as a cheap laptop, a connected TV or a smartphone. Coming back to Shadow Drive, as the name suggests, Shadow Drive works a lot like Google Drive, OneDrive, iCloud Drive or Dropbox. Users can upload and download files from a web browser. They are stored in a data center based in France so that you can access them later.
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  • Shouldn't that be $5.30 per month instead of $9.60 per month

  • No? Not interested then, I will keep my vServers. Less storage, but I control the interface and I can put services on top of that. There is no way in hell I will put their app on my machines.

    • by Arethan ( 223197 )

      I control the interface

      The host admin also controls the network interface. They also control the disk and the memory and the cpu scheduling.

      Regardless of design, you're establishing trust at some point. Even when running on your physical servers, sitting right next to you within your own office. You're still trusting the hardware itself to be free from defect and intentional malicious construct, whether born by the OEM or by meddling during the original delivery chain of custody.

      The security paranoia rabbit hole can go deep.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        So? Ever thought that I may want this in order to be able to automate things on servers on my side without giving _them_ a backdoor in? Trust is not yes/no, it comes with a pretty strong aspect of "who?".

        Other than that, you comment is pretty meaningless. Any competent security person already knows that.

      • theoretically security minded cloud storage like SpiderOak and its competitors means you don't have to trust the hardware that you are on. I think starting with a secure architecture and working you way from there is smarter than trying to think about security after-the-fact.

        • They seem to be using a modified Nextcloud client. It would be nice if they just offered standards, like S3, WebDAV, and other protocols than requiring yet more software to be installed. Even just using a Bog-standard Nextcloud client would be okay.

          • I guess that's OK, but you shouldn't trust Nextcloud with anything because they keep your keys server-side. (as far as I understand from the authentication scheme used and basic description on Wikipedia)

            I think there are two criteria we should consider the most important:
            1) client is widely available on many operating systems and architectures.
            2) storage is client-side encrypted and a trust nothing architecture.

            Additional features, which are also desirable:
            3) standards-based client
            4) open client implementat

    • My issue is trusting somebody else's server with my data -not because I expect them to be insecure, but because I do not trust them to stay in business.

      Shit happens, and the contract likely limits their liability to the amount paid for service, meaning if they go out of business, they owe me a refund for the rest of the month's service... but my data is just GONE. They have no obligation to even try to get it to me. I am S-O-L.

      My data is what I control. If someone else controls it, it is not my data.

  • "Shadow Drive works a lot like Google Drive, OneDrive, iCloud Drive or Dropbox. Users can upload and download files from a web browser. They are stored in a data center based in France so that you can access them later."

    And DGSE and GCHQ and NSA and ..
    • "They are stored in a data center based in France so that you can access them later."

      And DGSE and GCHQ and NSA and ..

      Most likely DGSI, french interior security.

  • With the price of 2 & 4 TB drives dropping, other than convenience, just add another SSD/NVME to your computer or on your network instead of paying someone who can hold your data hostage.
    • Even better, buy or make a NAS. On the cheap, one small SSD for the OS, toss on Debian + ZFS, and have two drives for RAID-1, and Samba, and that will be basic storage that can take a drive hit. Of course, storage isn't backups, but you could use a cron job with Borg Backup to Borgbase and get encrypted backups offsite with ease.

      • You aren't getting the point of a connected drive. The point is that it is hosted in a data center, so you can actually share the data easily, over internet. Also, I believe they use OpenStack Swift as a backend (just like many others), so then your data are stored 3 times in a distributed system. That's a way safer than RAID-1 or ZFS. Sure, you may use Swift at home too. But would you run 3 servers ? The cost of electricity makes it then in the advantage of the cloud provider offer, than is having hundreds
  • The reason I use Dropbox, Gdrive, and other commonly known providers is that it may not be the cheapest, but they are reliable, and in general, my data won't just vanish, although I do keep backups just in case. Another provider may be cheaper, but how do I know the data is protected, won't be tampered with, or just disappear? Even with encryption with something like Cryptomator will protect against unauthorized access, but tampering/deletion is another story.

    Plus, even without encryption, the main cloud

    • by jred ( 111898 )
      It's been a few years, but when I last checked, OneDrive was the only service that was HIPAA certified. Now that I think about it, that was 5 years ago. Surely the other services have caught up since then.
  • Even with half the price, this is still more expensive than the offer from Infomaniak (if you calculate with a correct change rate). With the bonus than data will be hosted in Switzerland (far away from 3 letters agencies). Why is this "shadow drive" making the headline in Slashdot then ?
  • Shadow Drive and Shadow PC are both based on the same technology fnaf security breach [fnafsecuritybreach3.com]: renting a virtual instance of a Windows PC in a data center near the user's location. This ensures low latency and high performance for both cloud storage and cloud gaming.

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