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Intel Plans Price Hikes on Broad Range of Products (nikkei.com) 58

Posted by msmash from the shape-of-things-to-come dept.
Intel has informed customers it will raise prices on a majority of its microprocessors and peripheral chip products later this year, citing rising costs, Nikkei Asia reported Thursday. From the report: The biggest U.S. chipmaker plans to raise prices this autumn on flagship products such as central processing units for servers and computers, where it dominates the market, as well as on a wide range of other items, including chips for Wi-Fi and other connectivity, according to three industry executives with direct knowledge. Intel says the price hikes are required because of the surging costs for production and materials, the executives said. The percentage increases have not been finalized, and could be different for different types of chips, but are likely to range from a minimal single-digit increase to more than 10% and 20% in some cases, one of the people said. Intel's move comes amid an inflation surge in the U.S. and around the world. The U.S. reported consumer prices rose 9.1% in June, a 40-year record.
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  • Inflation (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Intel says the price hikes are required because of the surging costs for production and materials

    Prices don't magically go up by themself. Prices only go up when business raise them. If businesses don't raise prices then there is no inflation. Inflation is caused by one thing and one thing alone -- corporate greed.

    • >Inflation is caused by one thing and one thing alone -- corporate greed.

      Not really. A corporation is supposed to try to make as much profit as they can, if they do not then the leadership is not doing their job.

      In such an environment, the prices are determined by demand and supply. If a company has too lower prices then more people likely buy the product and if higher then less everything else being the same.

      Thus if they have too high prices they sell less and thus make less overall profit, if they have

      • > A corporation is supposed to try to make as much profit as they can

        No, a corporation is supposed to do whatever its owners want. Which is typically making as much money as it can.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by sjames ( 1099 )

        That's why the government is supposed to watch over the market and address situations where insufficient competition makes it anything but suicide to raise prices.

  • Inflation (Score:5, Informative)

    by Tailhook ( 98486 ) on Thursday July 14, 2022 @02:47PM (#62702972)

    The inflation is a minor issue, don't worry about it.
    Ok, it's not minor, but don't worry it's transitory.
    And if it's not transitory then COVID did it!.
    And if COVID goes away and we still have inflation then it's Putin's fault, or Trump or something.
    But in all causes remember: there is absolutely no way magical Helicopter Money (tm) from Washington or trillions in deficit spending has anything to do with inflation. Krugman said so.

    • Under both party's administrations ... Why? Because it's a big club, and you ain't in it. Now they want a recession to make up for their corporate welfare.

      The fed has been wrong at every step of the way, and you now have some state gov'ts that are issuing their own stimulus to make things even worse. [marca.com] Fight fire with fire right? /s

      • >Under both party's administrations .

        The corporate welfare in US has been just raising and raising with each administration be it Republican or Democrat.

        "Too big to be allowed to fail" should not exist. Such a company should be either be allowed to fail or nationalized, split up to smaller and sold off. Those smaller can then complete with each other and can be allowed to fail.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
        Inflation [usinflatio...ulator.com] wasn't a big deal under Big Orange. Don't mislead people. It then causes people to defend an administration they don't like very much. No need to assign blame, just look at the real cause of inflation. The US treasury secretary went from calling inflation "transitory" to calling it "unacceptably high".

        • It also wasn't a big deal under Bush or Obama who both had similarly deficit busting budgets and the Fed did a fuckload of QE after 2008 as well.

          There are multiple factors and stacks of complex external events and their associated reactions have led to a complex situation with no easy causes or answers.

          Did the US overheat the economy with too much stimulus? Probably. A nasty side effect of our lacking social safety nets and generally dogshit UI system.

          Would we be in worse shape without the stimulus spendin

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by GoTeam ( 5042081 )
            Skip down to "4 main causes of inflation in our current economy" on this page [intuit.com]. Quitting pumping our own oil was a huge mistake. The vast majority of our good require fuel to make it to consumers. This administration printed way more money than the previous administrations.

            • I have read lots of articles aout inflation from a wide variety of sources, why should I trust Ituit (of all people, a company I hate and that plays a part in our awful tax filing system).

              That's not to say govement missteps play no part on it, like I said alreday, government policy with perhaps too much stimulus, short term thinking form the federal reserve and a decades long lack of investing in social policy helped create the conditions we are seeing now, combined with a fairly unprecenedeted global pande

            • Show me evidence the US quit pumping oil magically whenever a democratic is in office

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by dryeo ( 100693 )

                Sure, the Republicans get their friends in the Middle East or Russia to increase production and lower gas prices, about the time the government changes to the Democrats, the oil industry has cut back on pumping none profitable expensive oil. Combined with tax cuts, the oil industry realizes that it is more profitable, profits that they can keep, to not expand the supply
                There's always a lag in these things, one government fucks things and the next government gets the blame

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by dryeo ( 100693 )

              Remember when the Saudi's, Russia etc flooded the market with cheap oil putting expensive American oil at a disadvantage so they stopped pumping oil?
              Remember when tax cuts happened so instead of investing money in pumping oil, the oil companies decided to do stock buy backs, increase dividends and have record profits. At which point they realized it was more profitable to not pump oil.
              Every tax cut for the rich since the 1920's with one exception has seen the extra money used to create bubbles that inevitab

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by Tailhook ( 98486 )

            complex external events

            That's made up. There are no 'external' events. There are just events and debasing the currency and crushing productivity are not obligatory responses to events.

            • Ok sure, "events out of the control of the citizens and general government of the country, or they had no part in creating conditions for said events" but now we are in semantics dome territory.

    • We need to get re-elected! Let's DO IT AGAIN MOTHERFUCKER [youtube.com]
    • If inflation is entirely the fault of "magical Helicopter Money (tm) from Washington", then surely the rest of the world wouldn't have similar inflation rates.

      Oh, wait.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Tailhook ( 98486 )

        then surely the rest of the world wouldn't have similar inflation rates

        So we're pretending [reuters.com] that currency debasement was unique to the US. mkay.

        Well, at least we're past pretending it wasn't happening in the US at least. That's what apologists like you usually resort to.

  • Um. (Score:2)

    by fazig ( 2909523 )
    Ok. Well, good that Zen 4 is going to hit the the market "later this year" as well.
    Let's hope that AMD is going to use competitive pricing.
  • I switched my preferred CPU brand years ago when the price-to-performance tipped heavily away from Intel.

    Unless I'm spending a ludicrous amount on the super ranged i9 series it doesn't make sense to go blue for CPUs anymore.
    • so, 30 years ago?
      • Not quite. For the P3/P4 generation Intel was definitely a better, more reliable product even if it cost a little more. Pretty solidly on Team Red since the Core/Core2 series though.

        I still won't use AMD GPUs because of all the problems I had with the ATI cards between about 2002 and 2006. Fried half a dozen through normal use, and one actually caught on fire (well, it was smoldering, I think it was a cap or mosfet that burnt).

    • No, Threadripper is still a better value if you want a high end CPU.

      • Unless you're getting the weaksauce Threadripper it's not a good value at all. And it uses a weird socket. And its shape makes it hard to find a good cooler.
        i9s can just... slot into an LGA1151 board.

        • Ah yes, the i9. King of value and performance. I think I’ll just buy it right now. Thanks for the suggestion!

          • i9 12900k (16 cores, up to 5.2GHz) is about $580.

            Threadripper 16 core 5955WX is only available as OEM, costs about $1000, and only goes to 4.xGHz

            Yeah, it's a better deal and the integrated graphics make VM host or headless server setup *much* easier.

            • Wow thanks! I was going to do some due diligence myself but now I think I’ll just take the rest of the day off and pass this on to my boss.

              • If someone employs you to work on computer hardware and you think the Threadripper is a better value than the i9 you should be fired. You're clearly incompetent, despite your thick snark and sarcasm which doesn't make you nearly as cool or edgy as you think.

    • The only time it didn't make sense to run AMD was the K6. And even then it was OK if you were running Linux, and it was compiled for it. I ran Windows on various K6s and it was really quite bad, and my problems went away when I got a P2. But then K7 came out and it was all AMD again. Part of the K6 problem was VIA no doubt, and the inevitability of their chipsets on the motherboards, and AMD delivered very high quality chipsets for K7.

  • Hello AMD.

  • Inflation -- assigning fault (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Uncle_Meataxe ( 702474 ) on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:45PM (#62703138)

    Americans tend to live in a somewhat isolated world where it's easy to forget that there are other people and countries out there. So when it comes to assigning blame for something like inflation, we tend to only think about the U.S. If President Biden, or the US government, or the Fed for that matter, are mainly to blame for the US's inflation woes, are they also to blame for the inflation all around the world (and didn't some of that spending happen under the previous administration)? Perhaps US & European government spending did bring about some inflation but what would have been the result if they had not? Maybe there are other factors, e.g., the Russian invasion of Ukraine, supply chain issues related to the pandemic, etc?

    Inflation Rate - By Country -- https://tradingeconomics.com/c... [tradingeconomics.com]

    • Get out of here. Reality isn't welcome on Slashdot.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Junta ( 36770 )

      Sorry, I'm American, I can only understand how to blame one person at a time. Your statement confused and scared me, so I'll just assume all the inflation is your fault.

  • amd can drop prices and win or not up them

    • AMD is moving to TSMC 5nm, and TSMC jacked up pricing of 5nm, so AMD reducing or keeping low prices is off the cards.
  • Apple says thank you.
  • Economic down turn, deep, check! People therefore without money, check! Without money people can't buy our products, check! I have an idea: Price hike so even less people have possibility to purchase our products. Economy model of: In a long run we are all dead in action.

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