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Galaxy Note is Dead; Samsung Reportedly Ending Production on Note 20, No Plans for 2022 Model (9to5google.com) 58

Posted by msmash from the change-of-heart dept.
An anonymous reader shares a report: 2021 marked a big year for the Galaxy Note series, but not in a good way. Rather, it was the beginning of the end as Samsung prioritized its foldables over the Galaxy Note line. Now, the death of the Note seems set in stone, as Samsung reportedly has no plans for a 2022 Galaxy Note, and is also planning to end production of the Galaxy Note 20. ET News reports that Samsung has pretty much confirmed the end of the Galaxy Note series through two actions. Firstly, Samsung apparently has no plans for a Galaxy Note device in its 2022 roadmap. Likely that means the only flagship-tier Galaxy smartphones coming next year will be the Galaxy S22 series and new foldables.

On top of that, Samsung will also apparently end production on its Galaxy Note 20 series entirely by the end of 2021. Until now, production on the Galaxy Note 20 has continued as the device has still been selling. In 2021, the series reportedly sold around 3.2 million devices, around a third the number of Note devices sold in 2020. Of course, we know well at this point that the Galaxy S22 Ultra will act as a spiritual successor to the Galaxy Note series, with the device adopting a design closer to the Note 20 series as well as using the same built-in stylus. The Galaxy Fold series also inherits the S Pen, but still lacks a good place to store it.
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Galaxy Note is Dead; Samsung Reportedly Ending Production on Note 20, No Plans for 2022 Model

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  • Galaxy Fold 3 (Score:5, Funny)

    by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:41PM (#62024347)

    Is their Galaxy Fold 3 selling well? Or has it folded?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by NFN_NLN ( 633283 )

      We'll see how it unfolds in 2022.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by LKM ( 227954 )
      I think the newer folds are selling well. As somebody who has used a Note ever since the Note 2, I've been thinking about going with a Fold next. The only thing holding me back is the fact that you can't store a pen inside the Fold, but they have a case that holds a pen, which is good enough for me. So I'm feeling okay with the idea of ending the Note line.

      • Re:Galaxy Fold 3 (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Sique ( 173459 ) on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:36AM (#62025139) Homepage
        As someone who had used the Note, I will not go for a foldable. I generally don't like folding pocket devices. I didn't like the clamshell designs of the 2000s either. For me, every additional joint is a potential breaking point.

        • Yep, my last few phones have been a lot more reliable than any of the older phones that I had and it's all due to lack of moving parts. The only moving parts on my current phone are the volume and power buttons. 2 phones ago I had a home button, that phone still works fine. Every phone I've ever had with a keyboard, or a hinge, or a slide out mechanism had some kind of failure within 2 years. And I don't think I was particularly rough with my devices.

  • I love my Note 20 (Score:3)

    by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 ) on Friday November 26, 2021 @06:51PM (#62024373)
    I've had a Note 3, Note 8, and now a Note 20 Ultra. I use the stylus all the time - I'm old fashioned and still like writing as much as typing.

    But so long as other high end phones in the Galaxy line support the s-pen I'll be OK with that. The built in storage is handy, but could be replaced by an appropriate case design.

  • I had Samsung Note 3, 5, 8 and 10, it was the only phone that have something over every others

    Last week I switch to Apple, and I was the guy that hate IOS, but then, it's the pro (not Max) is the only (small) phone out there that is not a phablet with all the feature..

    • So is mine. No green screen. Although the battery is kind of garbage at this point.

      Unfortunately I wasn't eligible for a replacement when the last Note was available, and now there no option to get the Note (or Fold) from my employer. So I'll have to make it until the new Ultra is out while my work profile has been deleted after Android support ended.

  • I have had Galaxy Notes for years and am due for an upgrade. I've seen the foldable phones and have no interest. What's good?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ranton ( 36917 )

      The Galaxy S22 Ultra will be the spiritual successor to the Note line. It will be the largest (non-foldable) phone Samsung sells. The top of the line S series phones have been within 0.1 - 0.2" of the largest Note line for years, so the S-pen was almost the only difference between the lines. Now even that is rumored to be included with the S22 Ultra.

  • They are really betting a lot on the foldables. When I was in to check on a new phone recently, I looked into the foldables.

    Ye got to be feckin' kidding me! For all the technology that went into it, it doesn't look very nice at all. The whole phone itself looks a little dumpy. I guess the idea is to make it last an average number of open close cycles until you have to get a new phone? I suspect this will go into the same technology bin as those dopey old calculator wristwatches.

    I got an iPhone 13 Pro

    • Re: Wow (Score:3)

      by Malc ( 1751 )

      I canâ(TM)t help feeling that foldables are going to have long term problems with their screens. Maybe thatâ(TM)s why the manufacturers like them: guaranteed to be replaced sooner.

      • I canâ(TM)t help feeling that foldables are going to have long term problems with their screens. Maybe thatâ(TM)s why the manufacturers like them: guaranteed to be replaced sooner.

        I think you are on point. I see a lot of phones for what I do. In general, young folk have phones that exhibit a high level of accidents. Cracked screens, dented bezels and even missing parts. I cannot see them going long without utterly wrecking phones that are by their construction, pretty fragile.

      • That's the feeling I get to.

        If I had one of those foldables, I would have the nagging feeling that next time I open it up, half the screen will be dead, or it will be riddled with black splotches that grow worse over time. No thanks.

        I believe when they fixed these problems of the initial release, all they really did was delay the inevitable. You will still get your broken screen, but now it will happen shortly after the warranty has expired.

        I don't want a phone with moving parts, unless it's

  • Galaxy (Score:5, Interesting)

    by _0x0nyadesu ( 7184652 ) on Friday November 26, 2021 @09:32PM (#62024633)

    Samsung is a great example of an advertising department destroying a hardware business.

    What started with my fiance's Galaxy S8 having apps you can't remove and advertising from Samsung ended with me ignoring all Samsung devices going forward. Instead of Samsung I went with Sony and I could not be happier. My phone is rootable and didn't punish me for it. My 4k Bravia 65k inch TV is basically a stock Android experience.

    While Samsung has excellent hardware they can't sell me a TV just because of how their ads department ruined the experience. I also avoid Samsung washing machines, dryers, and dish washers because I can't trust them to not fuck things up.

    It's amazing how badly you can damage your brand by foolishly letting your advertising department run the shots.

    • Yep, I was looking at Samsung for my next phone, but all that crap really turned me off. When companies let their greed for advertising or product placement revenue override their concern for user satisfaction, IMO, it's being penny wise and pound foolish.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      To be fair Samsung now lets you remove all the pre-installed apps (except the essential system ones), removed the advertising and you can disable things like Bixby. They have got a lot better.

    • I unlocked my Sony Xperia 10 plus to try out SailfishOS, found it too limited, then went back to stock, to find that's not quite possible. I don't get over the air updates, the device is marked to have an unlocked bootloader, and supposedly is out of warranty. That last point will be difficult for Sony in the EU. But otherwise, I'd consider this everything but "without punishment"... Perhaps newer Sony devices are different? Which one do you have?
  • They lost me when they cut: replaceable battery, microSD storage upgrade and 3.5mm audio jack

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Deetz ( 980257 )
      ... Oh and the tall narrow "infinity display" that is less than perfect to write on (edge to edge)

    • They lost me when they cut: replaceable battery, microSD storage upgrade and 3.5mm audio jack

      So what do you use now?

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Deetz ( 980257 )
        Insurance replacement legacy refurb till the marketing idiots all start listening to the VoC "Voice of the Customer"

      • I've owned countless devices with audio jacks, but Samsung phones were by far the most unreliable in this regard.

          I don't know who they source that particular part from, but this is always the first part to fail.

    • ... because I agree, I want to be able to replace its battery. but I use bluetooth headphones and never hand-write, I just find the stylus useful because of my fat fngers.

  • Sad (Score:2)

    by madbrain ( 11432 )

    The Note 20 Ultra is one of the best phone I have ever owned, by far. I think a lot of owners feel that way, too. The value of those used phones just went up overnight.

    That said, I don't use the stylus too often, but when I do, I want it be charged and inside the phone.

    It's also missing a good slide-out physical keyboard, and trackball. Would fit perfectly under the camera bump.

  • I looked at the Note and foldables a lot. A lot lot. I had a Galaxy S5 for quite a while. It died and they refused to help me get the data out of it. The very chic new Galaxy HQ in my megacity let me sit there but would not support me due to the S5 being too old, then suggested I look for a sketchy place to read the chips.. it would have cost mega bucks. Fuck em. I got an iPhone 11 Max which is fabulous (not counting the miniscule letters.. I use the zoom quite a lot). I can see the iMessage chats of the r

  • I had a Galaxy Note: 3,4,5, and 8. IMHO, the Galaxy Note 3 and 4 were the best device. The screen aspect ratio meant that the phone didn't fall out of your hand. It had no curved screen that was difficult to protect. They had a removable battery. Unlike the Galaxy Note 5, it had a microSD. Samsung murdered the Galaxy Note.
  • Which is weird, for Samsung is a company on fire.

  • They're even squaring it off, as compared to the S21 Ultra, to be more like the Note. Those with the best track records for leaking that kind of info have been positive about this for a while.

    Tear drop lay out out for the rear cameras is a pretty impressive looking new feature.

    The sensors will be about the same, just with some newer versions.

  • The foldables will always have that weak point going down the center of the screen.

    If there is a gap, no matter how small, in the back of the screen, you better be real careful and not press your stylus too hard down on it, because this is the part of the screen that is much more easily punctured than the rest.

    Even if they solved this problem, you still have a rather sharp crease which will fail because all materials can be bent back and forth only a certain number of times before they fail entirely

  • Samsung added support for the S-Pen on the S series of phones. The stylus has always been the defining feature of the Note series, the large screen too.

    The large screen stopped being a defining feature long ago, all phones have large screens now. And with the stylus not being exclusive the the Note, it is not special anymore. The S series have swallowed the Note series and foldables are its successor.

    It makes sense, the Note used to be called "phablets" because at the time they were almost tablet sized, siz

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