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Japan To Create Scheme To Subsidize Domestic Chip Output (reuters.com) 24

Japan will create a scheme to subsidize construction of domestic chip factories with a new plant planned by Taiwan's TSMC likely to be the first recipient, the Nikkei newspaper reported on Monday. Reuters reports: The government will set aside several hundreds of billion yen under this year's supplementary budget to create a pool of funds at NEDO, a state-run body promoting research and development on energy and industrial technology, the paper said. Companies will be eligible for the subsidies on condition they ramp up chip production in times of short supply, the Nikkei said without citing sources.

The government is likely to subsidise up to half of TSMC's estimated 1-trillion-yen ($8.82 billion) investment for building a chip plant in Kumamoto, southern Japan, the Nikkei said. The plant in Kumamoto, southern Japan, is expected to produce semiconductors for automobiles, camera image sensors and other products which have been hit by a global chip shortage, and is likely to start operations by 2024, the paper said.

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    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      A lot of Japanese companies left the market. They used to make a lot of generic/2nd source parts, or improved versions of existing parts like CPUs. They also had a lot of domestic designs, video and sound chips for example.

      The bottom fell out of the market though and slowly they gave up one by one. Now there is a market for very high end parts, which Japan could participate in, but it's very different from the 1980s.

      • Young Doc Brown: No wonder this circuit failed. It says "Made in Japan".
        Marty McFly: What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan.
        Young Doc Brown: Unbelievable.

  • US needs to do due the same and cut Red China off!

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      TSMC says yes, yes you do!

    • US needs to do due the same and cut Red China off!

      Subsidies? Subsidies! ARE YOU NUTS?!? Then prices would be bottom barrel, slim margins for everyone. What you really need are some steep tariffs and pump that price maybe 150% over today’s market. Then the money would really start flowing to the under one percent of the market share that’s truly American made chip dies and assemblies. People really want them so they can just cough $99 up to save us $1 amirite? I mean we got exactly this on solar panels, and fossil fuel profits almost stopp

    • US needs to do due the same and cut Red China off!

      But will Republicans vote for it? No seriously, they vote against everything that isn't politically advantageous and if it passes anyway they try to take credit for it.

      • by kenh ( 9056 )

        If the Democrat Majority wants to draft spending bills without input from Republicans, why should the Republican Minority help them pass their bills when their own party members vote against it?

        Trust me, Republicans are not going to "take credit" for the Democrat's $4-5Trillion dollar spending spree - exactly where are Democrats looking to convince themselves they have any sort of "mandate" to justify all this spending? (Democrats have a three person majority over the Republicans, and in the evenly-split Se

        • exactly where are Democrats looking to convince themselves they have any sort of "mandate" to justify all this spending?
          They are the ruling party. So they have the mandate.

          What your idiotic problem is - you Americans - that the government/the party with the majourity, is spending money to bring the country forward instead (of wasting it) for the armed forces: is beyond me!

          Did you actually ever look at other countries? How they work? The government is the driving power. That is why we have governments.

          If y

          • What your idiotic problem is - you Americans - that the government/the party with the majourity, is spending money to bring the country forward instead (of wasting it) for the armed forces: is beyond me!

            Maybe your news didn't report that Biden's budget gives the USDoD literally $10B that it did not ask for. If you seriously think that we're not wasting the money we need to improve the nation by spending it on endless war then you've been sadly misled by the media.

        • If the Democrat Majority wants to draft spending bills without input from Republicans, why should the Republican Minority help them pass their bills when their own party members vote against it?

          Country over party. Anyone who votes otherwise is a total. subhuman. piece. of. shit.

          exactly where are Democrats looking to convince themselves they have any sort of "mandate" to justify all this spending?

          From reality. Without that spending this country will continue to slide into failure. Without the spending on curtailing emissions, same for the biosphere which we all depend upon for survival. Ignoring reality doesn't change it.

      • they vote against everything that isn't politically advantageous and if it passes anyway they try to take credit for it.

        Is there a party that doesn't do that? The Green Party because they have no votes?

        • Actually, yes. The Democratic party made significant concessions (200+ requested changes by Republicans) to make the ACA a bipartisan bill. As a reward for their efforts, not a single Republican voted for it. They have tried to destroy the law by any means for the last decade.

          If you want to say, "both sides" that's OK but it's not truthful.

          • Actually, yes. The Democratic party made significant concessions (200+ requested changes by Republicans) to make the ACA a bipartisan bill. As a reward for their efforts, not a single Republican voted for it.

            You don't think that was politically advantageous for the Democratic party? Why do you think they wanted a bipartisan bill?

            • It would have been more politically advantageous to merely snub them. There are lots of ways they could have excluded people rural locations that always vote in Republicans. The point wasn't to score political points but to pass something to help everyone. It was never intended to be politically divisive which is why they compromised. Instead, Republicans decided to force it to be politically divisive because it was highly advantageous. Repealing the ACA was a big part of taking back the House and Sena

    • by kenh ( 9056 )

      US needs to do due the same and cut Red China off!

      Japan (which is not "Red China") proposes subsidizing domestic (which means Japan, not "Red China") chip fabrication factory - how does this, in any way, impact China?

      Japan will create a scheme to subsidize construction of domestic chip factories with a new plant planned by Taiwan's TSMC likely to be the first recipient, the Nikkei newspaper reported on Monday.

      • New country to invade?

      • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

        Because Red China (which at this point has a red flag and that's pretty much it) is creating their own domestic chip industry because um, the US bullied everyone into not selling them chips. So everyone should give an enourmous company in not-Red China (their flag is mostly red too, but it has some blue) lots of money to set up foundries locally. I mean, they already had those and were building more anyway, but now they'll build them faster. Or something.

        Are you saying that doesn't make sense to you??

  • by Nocturrne ( 912399 ) on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @01:38AM (#61970489)

    We have been sold by the Aristocracy and are being actively farmed by our enemies.

    • by teg ( 97890 )

      We have been sold by the Aristocracy and are being actively farmed by our enemies.

      Realistically, the problem comes from within. In a country where evolution is controversial, around doesn't believe in climate change, the normal conservatives have been replaced by right wing populists that flat out reject facts and lots of states have governors who opposes vaccines and masks - you're going to to have problems.

      • All of that shit is just a symptom of the real problem, secret authoritarianism.

        Never forget QWest [wikipedia.org]. Like, literally, if you are a nerd in the US and you forget QWest then no one should ever give one tenth of one fuck about what you say about surveillance or about what happens to corporations which don't play ball with the feds when they want something.

        The corporate fuckfaces in charge have shit up everything they possibly could so as to remain in charge and also to get richer and richer even though they lit

    • Tend to agree. The wealth gap is growing rapidly, even with the increase in minimum wage. So min wage doubles, rich grow by 10X, prices double. Yes, but that min wage went up! What is particularly sad is the poor/middle class seem to welcome the idea of super rich. Marketing 101 seems to work pretty well.
  • by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <slashdot.worf@net> on Tuesday November 09, 2021 @05:28AM (#61970625)

    Japan had bad luck with fabs lately - AKM had their fab completely destroyed by fire late last year, to Renesas (Hitachi) having a fab fire this year that took out at least one production line.

    So Japan lost a lot, because during the time their chips are needed, their fabs are offline and will be for at least a year. I believe Renesas has managed to start up production on the other lines unaffected by the fire, but AKM has to rebuild from scratch.

    Plus, smoke in a class 5 environment will probably take a ton of work just to remediate and clean up

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