Future iPad Pro and MacBook Pro Models Rumored To Feature Ultra-Bright Double-Stack OLED Displays (macrumors.com) 26
Apple is in discussions with Samsung and LG over applying OLED displays with a two-stack tandem structure to future iPad and MacBook models, but the devices are likely several years away from launch, according to Korean website The Elec. MacRumors reports: The report indicates that a two-stack tandem structure would consist of two layers of red, green, and blue emission layers, allowing for the future iPad and MacBook models to have significantly brighter displays with up to double the luminance. Apple's current OLED devices like the iPhone have a single-stack structure, the report adds. Given that OLED technology is expensive, it's likely the displays will be used on future iPad Pro and MacBook Pro models specifically. The report claims the future iPads will come in 11-inch and 12.9-inch sizes, which are indeed the current iPad Pro sizes.
The report claims the two-stack iPad displays will also be low-power LTPO panels, which could allow for a wider ProMotion refresh rate range between 10Hz and 120Hz, in line with the iPhone 13 Pro models. iPad Pro models have already supported ProMotion since 2017, but with a refresh rate between 24Hz and 120Hz. Timing remains a big question mark. While some earlier reports claimed the first iPad with an OLED display was slated for release in 2022, today's report claims the timeframe has been pushed back to late 2023 or 2024. The first MacBook with an OLED display might follow in 2025, but this plan could be postponed further, the report adds.
The report claims the two-stack iPad displays will also be low-power LTPO panels, which could allow for a wider ProMotion refresh rate range between 10Hz and 120Hz, in line with the iPhone 13 Pro models. iPad Pro models have already supported ProMotion since 2017, but with a refresh rate between 24Hz and 120Hz. Timing remains a big question mark. While some earlier reports claimed the first iPad with an OLED display was slated for release in 2022, today's report claims the timeframe has been pushed back to late 2023 or 2024. The first MacBook with an OLED display might follow in 2025, but this plan could be postponed further, the report adds.
What is the Benefit (Score:1, Interesting)
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I don't understand the benefit of a 1,000 nits display.
Outdoor use.
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My guess is BeauHD has Apple shares and / or is being compensated to pump a rumored product development that is years away.
... and my guess is that Terrigena has shorted Apple stock and/or is being secretly paid by the CIA to make BeauHD sad.
Isn't making shit up fun? You don't have to actually know anything, you can just invent a wild claim based on nothing, and see how many people believe it!
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I have a 4K OLED panel on one of my laptops, and in HDR, the brights are fucking squint-your-eyes blinding.
IIRC, it's only around 400 nits.
1000 nits in anything but direct noon sunlight has got to be flat out fucking painful.
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But I wonder if instead the main motivation is to increase lifespan / decrease burn-in. The candle that burns half as bright burns twice as long, if you will - maybe longer if wear is super-linear.
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If you really wanted to show specular highlights realistically, it would take a crazy amount of brightness.
Ya, the specular highlights in HDR are specifically what I'm talking about. They're blinding on my 400 nit display. Hard to look at bright.
I'm thinking the higher brightness isn't really for things like specular highlights, and more for just average panel brightness or something... something to make it work well in lighting (since HDR content is generally to be consumed in dim to no lighting)
That being said, as you noted, there's almost certainly going to be an increase in the lifespan of the elements b
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Well, :P
the cool people on the block wear sunglasses in front of their laptop.
BTW: that is an easy trick to prevent other people from reading what is on your screen.
Simple
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Yup. First thing I do on any OLED, or even LCD for that matter, display is turn the intensity down to sane levels to save my retinas. This several-years-away Apple tech-you-don't-need leak is purely a means to pump the stock price.
Having said that, maybe there is a market for monitors that project an X-ray image of your head onto the wall behind you? Who knows...
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What a stupid post.
At least BeauHD is posting tech news for a change, rather than the usual social justice in tech rubbish he posts.
It's technical news, simple as that. It may not be the most exciting thing of all time but it's news none the less.
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I don't understand the benefit of a 1,000 nits display.
Actually ~1000 nits is not unreasonable though you don't really need more than that. It pretty much lets you see the screen under any lighting conditions. If you aim for ~500 nits then in bright sunlight it can be hard to see. I imagine it's just a target requirement for device manufacturers to aim for.
As for the layered display, my only guess with OLED is that this is somehow designed to deal with the burn in problem. The brighter you run the OLEDs the faster they fade in output, so the idea of stacking pa
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1000 nits displays are for something called High Dynamic Range, aka HDR. It's a standard that allows for codi
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If anything I want a dimmer display. I have an older Samsung tablet that I use in bed, and even the minimum brightness is too bright for bedtime. There's android dimming apps that will things things even less bright, but because of the backlight it uses it's still not as dark as I would want it, the image just ends up with duller colours, but there's still quite a bit of light thrown from the screen. My next tablet will be OLED, and I hope that there will be the ability to set the brightness to super low
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> If anything I want a dimmer display. I have an older Samsung
Stop right there with "Samsung". Most manufacturers don't give a damn about such usability aspects. Apple gets it, and IBM with their Thinkpads, not sure if Lenovo carried it forward. notebookcheck.net for example shows minimum brightness and whether it's achieved via pulse frequency modulation, and at what frequency, as a low frequency will be visibly flashing.
Also, I don't see your "if anything". Mine is this:
If anything, I'd like to see a r
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I guess everyone has different use cases. The only computing device I use outside is my phone. So I could see a need for a phone to have a really bright display. But all my other devices spend their time exclusively indoors. So maximum brightness is not so much of a problem, as long as it is bright enough.
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I don't understand the benefit of a 1,000 nits display. I guess a double layer display is an interesting development, but I don't really think this is news at this point and reads more like an attempt to pump Apple stock by trying to instill confidence in their R&D pipeline. My guess is BeauHD has Apple shares and / or is being compensated to pump a rumored product development that is years away.
Yeah it all started with the iPhone - standard hype generation that's completely legal and should be transparent but enough people flailing around will generate more orders . . .
It's like the sapphire thing - anyone who knew how it worked and what it was for didn't believe that screens were going to be made out of it.
Whatever screen tech is used in the new iPad mini (gen 6) and iPhone 13 pro Max is what to expect in any displays that aren't up to that quality yet . . . beyond that, R&D is always w
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It's the same reason why "shiny" screens are the normal, even though a matte screen is more better and functional. In your day to day, it won't be noticed as you quickly get used to it. But when you see it in the store/other people using it, it makes it look so much nicer and help incite you to want to buy one as well.
Finally! (Score:2, Funny)
The movie trope of a display so bright that the images/text can been seen reflected on the users face will be true!
It is not more light I need (Score:1)
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Man, if I could get iPad functionality with an eInk display that'd be killer. I keep wondering when eInk display prices will come down, but they never do. You can buy a smallish regular computer monitor that's eInk, but I've heard they're still a bit iffy with standard OS interfaces. Bummer. It's such a cool tech. And a million times easier on the eyes if the text stays nice and sharp.
Brightness (Score:1)
I already don't understand brightness:
Peak 1600 nits for HDR content: WTF does it even mean? For how long can 1600 nits be sustained and what happens if the video content stays bright for longer than that? Also, why HDR? What if you want to use content creation software or a text editor outdoors, are you not getting 1600 nits peak, or 1000 nits "normal", because some content creation and all editor software are not HDR? It's just stupid. You can't code outside but you could watch some crappy movie! Or maybe
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Peak 1600 nits for HDR content: WTF does it even mean?
What it says, the peak illumination of a double-stacked pixel element will be 1600 nits, and this will be useful for HDR content because it will enable the maximum expression of contrast in brightly lit conditions.
I would argue that this is pretty worthless frankly, if you're trying to outshine the sun then the user is never going to be able to actually perceive the full contrast. If you aren't, you don't need that much brightness unless your black level is garbage, and I would presume that it isn't.
I'm sure the double OLED will be a similar improvement with so many ifs and qualifications that it'll still be shit outside
I suspe
Double stack panel, one display (Score:2)
Is this more to try to increase the life of the panel? Last I remember, OLED displays are prone to screen burn in, like plasma and older CRT displays are. Is the extra brightness really needed except for people who have a visual impairment?
Sometimes I got to crank my LCDs down because they are so bright that it burns my eyes in dim lighting conditions.
Really, what's the benefit to cost of doing this besides "Moar nitz!"?