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Video Leaks From Samsung's 'Artificial Human' Avatar Project Neon (theverge.com) 39

The Verge has been investigating Samsung's "artificial human" project Neon, which seems to be about creating realistic human avatars: A tweet from the project's lead and some leaked videos pretty much confirm this -- although they don't give us nearly enough information to judge how impressive Neon is. The lead of Neon, computer-human interaction researcher Paranav Mistry, tweeted this image, apparently showing one of the project's avatars. Mistry says the company's "Core R3" technology can now "autonomously create new expressions, new movements, new dialog (even in Hindi), completely different from the original captured data...."

In a recent interview, Mistry made clear he thinks "digital humans" will be a major technology in the 2020s... "While films may disrupt our sense of reality, 'virtual humans' or 'digital humans' will be reality. A digital human could extend its role to become a part of our everyday lives: a virtual news anchor, virtual receptionist, or even an AI-generated film star."

Reddit users also found the URLs for videos in the source code on Neon's home page -- and though the videos have since been removed, some of the footage has been archived and analyzed on YouTube.
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Video Leaks From Samsung's 'Artificial Human' Avatar Project Neon

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  • But something seems off about the body - I can’t put my finger on exactly what, though.

    • But something seems off about the body - I canâ(TM)t put my finger on exactly what, though.

      I had the same feeling. I think it's something about the height to width proportions. Kind of like watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. The face motions look about right, but some of the body joints look out of center, like someone had a hip replacement surgery or something.

    • by MrKaos ( 858439 )

      But something seems off about the body - I can’t put my finger on exactly what, though.

      It seems like when you look at the face the ratio Phi [wikipedia.org] is not being expressed the same way as it is in the body. Humans are pretty sensitive to that kind of asymmetry, you maybe the first to notice it considering everyone else working on it were probably focused on getting it working.

      If so I think that means you get to name the effect, I'd suggest the Escort Wagon effect, however that one is already taken. Any other ideas?

    • by juancn ( 596002 )
      I think it's the perspective projection that it's off. It's like this paper from 2007 Siggraph [washington.edu] but applied to the whole body.

      Since you're approximating from a 2D image/video the tiny shifts in perspective are off.

  • by De_Boswachter ( 905895 ) on Monday January 06, 2020 @01:11AM (#59591168) Homepage
    Yeah, looks nice, but. Will we be able to have a decent conversation with an AI entity any time soon? The customer support bots that are currently used by web shops are total crap and you can't have an intelligent conversation with any home assistant by far either. These new looks will only be impressive until you have to interact with them and actually get things done.
  • Am I going to spend an hour trying to disable some new app on my Galaxy?
  • because all these artifical humans all do end up on Pornhub anyway

  • This is the future of the 1980s in 2020 marketing schaisse.

    Most people don't want this. they don't want it and they especially don't want it long term. Can you imagine, if you will, reading the news by having an assistant read them to you? and when booking a flight do the process fully through another person - like, imagine calling your friend and talking him through the process of booking a hotel for you, comparing the prices and locations and judging if the place seems legit based on that conversation? it's not so great is it?

    What people want is someone to do their physical chores for them, not their "virtual" decision making.

    I mean, sure, if it actually worked like that I could "teach" the virtual avatar to do my job, why not, but it's kinda far fetched with current level of technology isn't it? chatbots are already passe. and you know what chatbots are? they are frigging terminal programs - terminal programs/menus that marketing companies marketed to other companies to use instead of using a regular web page - but at higher cost. imagine using telnet to order a product in 2020: you don't have to imagine, you can do essentially just that through a chatbot - now you might ask why not use a normal web catalog flow to make the order? well who the f knows maybe you're _SEVERELY_ disabled.. for them it's a great boon of course. I have nfi why even bedbound would want to look at mr. neons animated face though.

    furthermore if they had really something special at their hands they would market the the obvious multi billion dollar industry that would actually benefit from their technology: games. having them bring it as a product to ces makes 0 sense except in hyping for hypings sake, much like giving a head puppet with servos citizens rights.

    • I forgot to add the most obvious thing.

      Imagine using a computer entirely through giving voice commands to clippy.

      in fact this whole thing sounds more and more like a mid-90s rehash of assumptions people who don't actually do stuff have of people who do stuff(like that they would want a clippy and that the writing program should look like a notepad and the desktop should look like a literal desktop in a virtual room with a phone book and shit)

      • And thinspired portless devices with no replaceable parts.

        And loads of other crap that solely exists to bling in marketing displaysy because it is all about making a sale and none about actually being a good product.

        Pure marketeering wank.

        And why?
        Because It Werks!(TM)

        Hell, people will happily vote for the same party that completely lied to them four or eight years ago, "because the other party lied to us". Yeah, so we established they are both unelectable. Pick a third party. Done!

        People are easily steerabl

      • by MrKaos ( 858439 )

        Imagine using a computer entirely through giving voice commands to clippy.

        It was like millions of voices cried out, and were suddenly silenced.

      • You’re right. What people want (or at least *think* they want) is JARVIS from the marvel movies, and what they keep getting is voice controlled clippy.
    • It works if they add some intelligence. You wouldn't have to explain every action in detail, but give them tasks like you would give to a personal assistant: "Find me a 4 star hotel in Vegas for next week, and book a compact rental for that time as well". The system might come back with a few questions like the area you prefer, or the kind of room, the exact dates, or whatever. It gives you a few options, you state which one you want, and the system makes the booking. And since we'll have many such mach
  • A digital human could extend its role to become a part of our everyday lives: a virtual news anchor, virtual receptionist, an AI-generated film star, or a government propaganda tool, devoid of conscience, morals, a sense of ethics, that does precisely what it's told to do, when it's told to do it, unquestioningly, unerringly, utterly seamlessly.

    Just sayin'.

    • I'm quite certain there's plenty of "analog" humans that will act as you fear. There's no need to create digital humans for this.

      This is just "deepfake" technology added on top of some existing models for human motion. The AI portions of adding emotions, voices, and interactions still look primitive and are easily overcome with some people with low moral standards and mediocre acting skills. Better actors, like better AI, just takes more money. The actors will be cheaper though, and if paid enough then

      • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

        I'm quite certain there's plenty of "analog" humans that will act as you fear. There's no need to create digital humans for this.

        Sure there are plenty of humans who will act like that, but a human can never be truly, completely under control. Everyone has a line that, once crossed, changes everything, and sometimes not even those individuals know where that line is until it has been crossed. A digital human can be relied on to say what you want, when you want, and how you want it, on demand without fail.

      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        IIRC, China had a popular newscaster replaced because she couldn't read some stories with proper conviction. I think FOX has done the same thing.

        Don't try to pretend that the evil is all on one side. And don't deny that it exists.

    • As far as I can tell, the latter is the point of the existence of the former.

    • Some quotes from "Max Headroom, 20 Minutes Into The Future" (1985):

      "For the moment there's only enough memory to generate his head - too many co-ordinates for the rest of the body. But you are looking at the future - people translated as data."

      "You might care to call it the Phoenix, Mr Bryce. My word, you could have all your politicians in little boxes... very handy."

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      A digital human could extend its role to become a part of our everyday lives: a virtual news anchor, virtual receptionist, an AI-generated film star, or a government propaganda tool, devoid of conscience, morals, a sense of ethics, that does precisely what it's told to do, when it's told to do it, unquestioningly, unerringly, utterly seamlessly.

      Just sayin'.

      Yeah, this kind of thing will inevitably devolve into an artificial version of that North Korean female news anchor, spewing only what's approved by the government. No more episodes like Cronkite after his Tet trip, throwing away the lies of the official government story after seeing the truth for himself, or Shep Smith leaving Fox News to preserve his journalistic integrity and independence.

      This is a dictator's dream. A loyal, reliable media is an important tool in an authoritarian regime, unflinchingly

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  • As nearly always.

    Turns out, blackeyers will believe literally everything, provided you tell them "it was stupidity, never malice".

    And coming from a "peer" works ten times better. At least.

  • by Artem S. Tashkinov ( 764309 ) on Monday January 06, 2020 @06:41AM (#59591526) Homepage

    Those talking characters in the video are real human beings. I refuse to believe they are AI/computer generated. Animation, facial expressions, smoothness, the level of detail, lighting, hands movements - that's far better than what can be seen in most movies where computer generated people are present (go watch a trailer for one of the most recent which is Gemini Man). The tech is not yet there and will not be for at least the next 10 years.

    https://youtu.be/Q6f6EXX-79w

  • "..."digital humans" will be a major technology in the 2020s... "While films may disrupt our sense of reality, 'virtual humans' or 'digital humans' will be reality. A digital human could extend its role to become a part of our everyday lives: a virtual news anchor, virtual receptionist, or even an AI-generated film star.""

    all powered by somebody slaving away in a data-call-center, you know, just like all those 'assistants' that came before (google etc).

  • To steal a line from Linus Torvalds, "digital humans" tech is pure garbage.

    Look! We're all functional illiterates now!

  • Someone will Rule 34 the shit out of this.

  • . . . called, "Are You Human?" good special effects, but didn't much care for the love story between female and machine:
    https://annyeongoppa.com/2019/... [annyeongoppa.com]

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