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Google Pixel 4 Will Have 90Hz 'Smooth Display and DSLR Camera Attachment (9to5google.com) 56

According to 9to5Google, Google's upcoming Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL smartphones will feature 90Hz refresh rates, 6GB of RAM, and a DSLR attachment, among other features not reported until now. From the report: First, the basics: There will be a Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL, and they will both more or less have the same features. They are phones. As we've already seen, they will have glass on the front and back, and a large camera bump. The have a sizable top bezel on the front housing the Soli radar chip, the speaker, a single front shooter, and the suite of sensors for face unlock. Other familiar aesthetic flourishes like a colored lock button and the usual 'G' logo on the back are also in tow. Things get a little interesting with the display specs. Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL will have 5.7-inch and 6.3-inch OLED displays, respectively -- the smaller is Full HD+, while the larger is Quad HD+. We can confirm now, though, that both will be 90 Hz displays, a feature Google is planning to call "Smooth Display."

We also have word on the Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL camera specs. There are two sensors on the rear, one of which is a 12MP shooter with phase-detect auto-focus. Also, confirming details that we unearthed in the Google Camera app, the other rear sensor on the Google Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL is a 16MP telephoto lens. Another interesting tidbit on the camera side: We're told Google is developing a DSLR-like attachment for the Pixel 4 that may become an available accessory. In other Pixel 4 specs, the smaller 5.7-inch Google Pixel 4 will have a 2,800 mAh battery, while the larger model will have a 3,700 mAh battery. That means, compared to last year, the smaller Pixel will have a slightly smaller battery (down from 2,915 mAh), while the larger Pixel will have a notably beefier one (up from 3,430 mAh). Both devices will pack the Snapdragon 855, get an appreciated bump to 6GB of RAM, and will be available in both 64GB and 128GB variants in the United States. Finally, we can confirm that both Pixel 4 models will have stereo speakers, the Titan M security module that was introduced with the Pixel 3, and of course, the latest version of Android with 3 years of software support. We're also told to expect that, like previous years, Google will show off some new Assistant features that will be exclusive to Pixel 4.

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Google Pixel 4 Will Have 90Hz 'Smooth Display and DSLR Camera Attachment

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  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @09:55PM (#59060848)

    The DSLR attachment sounded pretty cool, until I could find other other details - now I am thinking it merely would be a way to mount DSLR lenses over the camera body lenses which is nice, but has been possibly for a long time with custom rigs for many phones.

    What I would love to see would be a custom integration of phone and a real DSLR - to where the phone would take over operation and processing from the camera itself. Then you could use a DSLR just like a cameraphone in terms of benefit of using various phone apps with the DSLR, and probably faster processing as well from the phone compared to the processors that go into most cameras, along of course with the benefits of network connectivity from the phone...

    A phone/DSLR pairing like that would be amazing, and I would buy that combo in a heartbeat regardless of who made the phone or camera.

    • by jrumney ( 197329 )
      If it is an adapter for standard DSLR mounts, that is OK. What I feared is if they are coming up with a new miniaturized non-standard mount that means my lens collection will become obsolete every time I change my phone, then I'm not buying it.
      • by mobby_6kl ( 668092 ) on Thursday August 08, 2019 @04:28AM (#59061622)

        I was pretty sure I've seen this before, and after some searching, indeed Sony had a very bizarre camera that looked like a mount adapter but had a built-in APS-C sensor and could be attached to a smartphone to be used a s viewfinder.
        https://www.sony.co.uk/electro... [sony.co.uk]

        It's pretty neat but really at that point you're better off just using a normal mirrorless body because significantly better handling is one of main benefits of using a normal camera. As for the Pixel, I really doubt it'll adapt to an existing mount, that'd be extremely convoluted. Probably something that clips onto the existing lens (like the current crappy clip-on lenses you can buy), just better integrated, or, best case, a tiny little mount with adorable baby lenses.

      • If the adapter is priced like the ones already on the market, you might be better off just buying a cheap DSLR body like a Canon 2000D. Especially if you're also buying the lenses, there are often very nice body + lens combo deals out there.
    • by Potor ( 658520 )

      Perhaps. But if it's just a mount for lenses, then why call it a DSLR attachment? There is no such thing as *a* DLSR lens mount, but rather a series of different lens mounts for different DSLR systems, not to mention lenses for mirrorless cameras. If, for instance, it was a lens mount, one would expect a more specific announcement concerning the type of lens mount (EF, F, E, L, K, SR, M, etc.).

      Moreover, it's called a DSLR attachment, which implies something attaches to a DSLR. A lens is clearly not a DSLR.

      • Perhaps. But if it's just a mount for lenses, then why call it a DSLR attachment?

        It wasn't. Its was called a "DSLR-like attachment" (note the "like"). Maybe that just means the phone will be able to control the lens in the same way as a DSLR camera controls its lenses - changing the zoom and focus and the like.

        • by Potor ( 658520 )
          You're right - I missed that as the headline led me to read it without the "like".
        • Maybe that just means the phone will be able to control the lens in the same way as a DSLR camera controls its lenses

          That would be pretty interesting but I have to wonder if a phone would be up to powering lens focus and stabilization motors...

    • by Cederic ( 9623 )

      Something like the RED Hydrogen One, had they followed through and delivered on that.

      They still may, but by all accounts the phone isn't worth its price tag at the moment.

    • Look at even the smaller APS-C sensor in consumer/semi professional d-SLR cameras, then look at the sensor in a smartphone. Even a crop APS-C sensor is many times LARGER than even the best smartphone sensor. The image sensor, captures light. The larger the sensor the better it can capture the available light. Then, you run into the whole problem of stuffing millions of super tiny sensors in a small area, you have a problem with crosstalk, signal to noise ratio etc.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      The DSLR attachment sounded pretty cool, until I could find other other details - now I am thinking it merely would be a way to mount DSLR lenses over the camera body lenses which is nice, but has been possibly for a long time with custom rigs for many phones.

      What I would love to see would be a custom integration of phone and a real DSLR - to where the phone would take over operation and processing from the camera itself. Then you could use a DSLR just like a cameraphone in terms of benefit of using various phone apps with the DSLR, and probably faster processing as well from the phone compared to the processors that go into most cameras, along of course with the benefits of network connectivity from the phone...

      A phone/DSLR pairing like that would be amazing, and I would buy that combo in a heartbeat regardless of who made the phone or camera.

      I don't think you understand the level of specialization that goes into many dslr and mirrorless camera processors. They're designed to do only image processing and probably do it faster and quicker and better than anything your phone could do. And they can do it at 30 frames per second, for five seconds or longer. Your phone is good for nothing more than a bigger evf and a couple control buttons.

      • I don't think you understand the level of specialization that goes into many dslr and mirrorless camera processors.

        I do, I've been shooting digital SLR's for quite a long time now and carefully follow with processing developments.

        I don't think you realize how limited the camera makers are in terms of processing electronics needing to keep the cost down so the overall camera is not so expensive.

        Yes dedicated processing chips in cameras are indeed very fast. But at this point smartphones have very powerful C

  • Doesn't matter any more how many features it has, it's still spyware.
  • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @10:23PM (#59060926)

    Actual story: Google is developing something which may (or may not) be available as an accessory later.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:15AM (#59061696) Homepage Journal

      The Pixel 4 is looking like a bit of a dud. No fingerprint sensor, only face unlock. No headphone jack. Wireless charging not confirmed yet.

      The radar for gesture control seems pointless, I've literally never wished I could just wave my hand at my phone to control it. I'm happy to go the extra 10cm to actually touch it.

      Might be time to get a Pixel 3 when the sell them off cheap in September/October.

      • The radar for gesture control seems pointless, I've literally never wished I could just wave my hand at my phone to control it. I'm happy to go the extra 10cm to actually touch it.

        Maybe. I thought the squeeze to activate the assistant was pointless, until I actually used it.

  • by MeNeXT ( 200840 ) on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @10:48PM (#59060994)

    First I need a phone. Something I can plug in any headphone jack so I can use my hands. Crappy dongles that glitch just don't cut it.

    Second, reactivate the recording of calls. Can't say how stupid this decision was.

    Google is broken by design. The only feature that works is how much they can intrude into your life.

  • So now the real question is, Are you buying a phone or a really expensive camera accessory?

    Yes, it costs that much. They knew how to put the sorry in "accessory"

  • starting at $799??

  • by Anonymous Coward

    It doesn't mean "great camera" or anything else you may have had in mind when you wrote that. You clearly don't know what DSLR means. They're not going to add a movable mechanical mirror to the phone.

  • I am looking for a phone which is not bigger than 5.5 and is more rugged than the current generation of cheapest Chinese phones. Anything you would like to recommend?

  • I realize it's blasphemous to suggest that google does anything right, but they do make a good phone.

    Tried the galaxy series and it was OK...ish. The addons kinda tanked the experience for me. iPhones were more or less "meh"; weird interface, didn't have access to the apps I wanted. Switched to the Pixel 2 and was blown away. To date, it's still the best phone I've ever owned. Foolishly I upgraded to the 3 shortly after launch. It's still a good phone, but it's not as smooth to use as the 2. The came

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