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Is It Time To Get Rid Of The Caps Lock Key? (medium.com) 658

"At its worst, it's a waste of precious space, an annoyance, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist any more," complains Daniel Colin James, a writer, developer, and product manager. In a recent Medium essay, he called the Caps Lock key "an unnecessary holdover from a time when typewriters were the bleeding edge of consumer technology" -- and even contacted the man who invented the Caps Lock key (Doug Kerr, who had been a Bell Labs telephone engineer in the 1960s): I reached out to Doug about his invention, and he responded that while he still uses Caps Lock regularly, "we don't often today have a reason to type addresses in all caps, which was the context in which the need for the key first manifested itself to me."

I would go a step further, and say that most of us don't often have a reason to type anything in all caps today... [A] toggle with the same functionality could easily be activated in a number of different ways for those who really want to write things in all capital letters. (Say, for example, double tapping the Shift key, like how it already works on your phone.) Caps Lock is one of the largest keys on a modern keyboard, and it's in one of the best spots -- right next to the home row. It's taking up prime real estate, and it's not paying its rent any more.

Have you ever been in the middle of typing something, and then you get the uneasy feeling thaT YOU FLEW TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN AND NOW YOU HAVE TO REWRITE YOUR WORDS? You're not alone. Accidentally activating Caps Lock is such a relatable mistake that it's the introductory example for a research paper about accessibility issues with modern computer interfaces. Caps Lock is so frequently engaged unintentionally that password fields in software have to include a "Caps Lock is on" warning.

I've heard of people re-mapping their keyboards so the Caps Lock key becomes "Esc" or "Ctrl." But maybe it comes down to consumers. If you were shopping for a computer and were told that it shipped without a Caps Lock key -- would you be more or less likely to buy it?

Share your own thoughts in the comments. Is it time to get rid of the Caps Lock key?
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Is It Time To Get Rid Of The Caps Lock Key?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:39AM (#58922964)

    ... to get rid of medium.com.

    • by remoteshell ( 1299843 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:08AM (#58923706)
      I don't have mod points to upvote this, but to paraphrase Cato the Elder, medium delenda est.
    • by vrt3 ( 62368 )

      No, just leave it. It's an easy criterion to filter out stuff that's not worth my time to read.

      • I love Slashdot. It is wonderful to come here and see, that despite all the conflict and problems in the world, that the most popular story of the week is about the Caps-Lock key.

        Anyway, the correct answer is that Caps-Lock should stay, specifically because it is so useless. It is a wonderful key that can be remapped by each individual. It is the essence of freedom and flexibility is an increasingly constrained world.

        We need to stand together and defend our keyboards. They can oppress us and take our pr

        • Thank you! Otherwise, where would I re-map the esc key to on my dang macbook with touchbar??

          a critical question if ever there was one...
    • by DougReed ( 102865 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @11:13AM (#58924346)

      Some idiot that wants to solve a problem we don't have. What is so precious about the space the Caps Lock key, and why do my fingers need to learn a new layout because this idiot wants that real estate for some other useless key. Maybe for windows users we could replace it with a key that enters two backslashes because some other bunch of idiots used the universal escape character as the directory separator.

  • Simple answer... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ChodaBoyUSA ( 2532764 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:41AM (#58922968)
    NO. Leave it alone.
    • by jwhyche ( 6192 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:13AM (#58923736) Homepage

      The caps lock key still has it's place, just not where it is currently located. It should be relocated to a place where its isn't so easy to hit. Then the ctrl key should be relocated there like god intended it to be.

      Thirty years and I still have muscle memory of the ctrl key being in its proper place.

      • "The caps lock key still has it's place, just not where it is currently located."

        Switching Capslock, Control, and Alt Keys [pitt.edu]

        SharpKeys by RandyRants [github.com]

        How do I remap my keyboard with KeyTweak? [techrepublic.com]
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I remapped mine to an underscore key.

      • by LostOne ( 51301 )

        People keep saying that Ctrl should be where Caps Lock is. The thing is, it's a combining modifier key like Shift. There's a reason Shift is on both sides of the keyboard - it's so that you can press Shift with one hand while pressing whatever thing you're shifting with the other. The same logic applies to Ctrl and Alt, which is exactly why there are two each, one on either side of the space bar, on a farily standard layout.

        • That's an argument for not having the control key there though; not an argument in favor of caps lock, which is really just a now-useless (Yeah, yeah... I know ADA and COBOL are technically still things.) vestigial remnant. As one who favors vim over emacs I'd argue for putting the escape key there and exiling the caps lock ket off the the far upper-left hinterland that the escape key now occupies... assuming we keep it at all that is.

          But even though you do have a good point about the multiple control, and

      • The following registry file will change CAPS-LOCK to Left CTRL, Left CTRL to left ALT and Left ALT to CAPS-LOCK. The downside is that, starting with (I think) Win 7, you couldn't do this per user profile ... it's whole machine or not at all.

        Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

        ; The hex data is in five groups of four bytes:
        ; 00,00,00,00,\ header version (always 00000000)
        ; 00,00,00,00,\ header flags (always 00000000)
        ; 04,00,00,00,\ # of entries (3 in this case) plus a NULL terminator
        • See, this is what the "Year of Linux on the Desktop" people just don't get.

          It's simplicity and usability reasons like this why Windows will always be superior on the desktop.

          On my Linux maching running KDE, this process requires the confusing and non user friendly steps of:
          Opening the "System Settings" app.
          Going to Hardware->Input Devices->Keyboard
          And under the "Advanced" tab check the "Caps Lock as Ctrl" box under "Ctrl Position."

          Look how many steps that is and it involves opening this weird settings

      • Many computers from the 80's had the Caps Lock key located on the right side of the keyboard, particularly to the right of the space bar. Even the original IBM computer didn't have the Caps Lock key where it is now -- some clone moved it.

        I cut my teeth on an Amiga 1000. That machine had the Caps Lock and Ctrl key both crammed together above the left Shift. I guess they couldn't decide whether to copy the PC clone layout or everyone else's layout, so they ultimately made the stupidest compromise possible.

    • NO. Leave it alone.

      Precisely! Leave it where it is: don't wanna have to adjust my typing habits yet again. Plus there are times that I use the cap lock - like if I want to type a PART of a word in all-caps, it helps not having to keep pressing shift. On phone keyboards, there are 3 shift modes - UPPERCASE, lowercase and Mixedcase. But on keyboards, just leave it alone.

      Plus not all of us still use Windows, so just leave it alone.

    • by goombah99 ( 560566 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @10:38AM (#58924152)

      Is so the LED will light when you press it telling you that the USB port and keyboard is working, and you must be having a software problem when your computer is unresponsive to keyboard input.

      But if you want to make it more useful why not switch it with scroll lock

    • NO. Leave it alone.

      Put anther way, it's not broke, it doesn't need fixing. It's a key that lives near my pinky. I use a keyboard because of the large number of buttons placed such that i can easily reach them with just my hands. That they have letters on them in a particular organization makes them useful for typing prose, but then a least 50% of the time I'm using the keyboard I'm not using that semantic at all. wasd for example, and caps lock is right there, ready for use.

      Just stop dicking around with t

  • by 0dugo0 ( 735093 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:42AM (#58922972)

    .. replace it with something that truly fucks you up when you miss the A key.

    • Re:Kill it or.. (Score:4, Informative)

      by KiloByte ( 825081 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:20AM (#58923108)

      Google has an implementation. On one of their laptops (Chromebook or something -- it was at their site, ~6ya) the ex-Caps key stops whatever you're doing, loads a browser, goes to the obvious landing page for people who don't know how to use browser keywords (and DDG...). And, considering that I fell into the trap multiple times, the Caps key is nowhere near useless.

    • Re:Kill it or.. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Immerman ( 2627577 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:17AM (#58923750)

      I enjoy using it as a compose key for easily inserting extended characters using easily remembered "mnemonics" -e.g. [compose][o][:] inserts an o-with-umlaut character, [compose][^][4] inserts an exponent-4, etc.

      That's both very useful if you have any use extended characters, and really frigging confusing if you're not expecting it.

    • .. replace it with something that truly fucks you up when you miss the A key.

      Like the reset button?

  • by wierd_w ( 1375923 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:43AM (#58922978)

    Every time I see a stupid question like this one, this is the question I am going to ask back pointedly from now on.

    Caps Lock is used by people doing real work. Look, UX people-- I fucking get it. You want to shake things up because you think it's hip and trendy and shit.

    What you do not understand, is that there are whole lines of work where everything is supposed to be in all caps, all the time. Engineering blueprints are one of them. Leave the goddamn caps lock key alone.

    Thank you.

    • Why are engineering blueprints supposed to be all caps?

      • by wierd_w ( 1375923 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:58AM (#58923050)

        It's baked into the standards and practices documentation for most industries--

        The origin comes about when people were doing blueprints by hand, and they wanted to minimize illegible handwriting and maximize consistent interpretation. The practice was retained when blueprints became digital, and was codified into the standards and practices documentation.

      • With a proper font, it adds clarity for short notes. It does reduce clarity for paragraphs though. It all goes back to hand drawing though.

        What I frigging love is the fact that the iPad Pro “smart” keyboard re-maps not only the globe key but also caps lock to the alternative language. My alternate language is Thai, which makes many web pages unusable. The globe key needs to actually be an “alt” key so you can do a forward-delete... but NO!

      • Why are engineering blueprints supposed to be all caps?

        I've seen your kind before.

        Someone asks a question on how to do something on a forum and someone like you cant understand why so then immediately starts hunting for "the reason why" instead of staying out of stuff you will later refuse to understand.

      • Gee, is that a 1 or a lower-case L? See also uppercase O and zero, lowercase 6 and b, uppercase 5 and S, and anything written by a doctor. (Typewriters used the lowercase L as the 1 key).
    • by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:52AM (#58923010) Journal
      Exactly. Adding features is one thing, but removing them without understanding the possible ramifications is just irresponsible, With that said, I would like to see a simple option in Windows to disable the Caps Lock key.

      For those interested, theres a simple registry hack [wikihow.com] that will disable the Caps Lock key. As a bonus, that page also has instructions on disabling the equally annoying Insert key.
    • Does it really need such a prominent place when it has only maybe a niche use ? Most people would probably be fine to have it say near "print".
      • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Sunday July 14, 2019 @08:03AM (#58923456) Homepage Journal

        It's the shift lock, of course you would have it near shift.

        If we're going to change something about the keyboard, it should be to ditch QWERTY.

        If you press caps lock by accident, get a better keyboard, where the right side of the key is stepped down to make it harder to smash accidentally.

        For my part, besides the occasional bit of text that has to be all caps for technical reasons, I use it for gaming. It toggles run in a lot of games, and the Caps lock light tells me when I've done that, so I'm pretty happy with it.

        Since my caps lock key is stepped, I haven't hit caps lock accidentally in literally years. And this keyboard was bundled with a Dell originally, and I got it for five bucks at a yard sale. It has a hub and media buttons.

        This is a non-problem, not looking for a solution.

    • Every time I see a stupid question like this one, this is the question I am going to ask back pointedly from now on.

      Caps Lock is used by people doing real work. Look, UX people-- I fucking get it. You want to shake things up because you think it's hip and trendy and shit.

      What you do not understand, is that there are whole lines of work where everything is supposed to be in all caps, all the time. Engineering blueprints are one of them. Leave the goddamn caps lock key alone.

      Thank you.

      I'm all for improvements based on the way people work. However with 104 keys on a keyboard, what is the point of getting rid of one? If you want to propose arbitrarily assigning the key a different function in a user configurable way, then sure. If you want to propose new keys (ala windows key) then I'm listening. If you however want to eliminate something because you *think* (or rather thinking is what is lacking in this scenario) that people don't use it then I can only recommend that we chop off your bal

    • It was the IBM PC that shook things up. Prior computers had CTRL there, and that's what should be restored there to its rightful place.
    • This is not a good reason to have a dedicated key on every keyboard. If blueprints need to be in all caps, then blueprint software can just capitalize every character automatically. If that's too much then blueprint software can put in a toggle.

      Out of the, literally, billions of keyboards out there, how many are being used by engineers who are making blueprints? What about all of the other specialist fields who need all caps? Combined? It's still a tiny portion of the total. Scroll lock gets a small amou
      • by wierd_w ( 1375923 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @07:08AM (#58923286)

        The fonts used by CAD software often replace the lowercase letters with special symbols.

        Your solution will do much more harm than good.

        Considering that quality communication between engineers, builders, and inspectors is how you have people literally not get killed all the same time, making life harder for them so you can avoid hitting it on accidenthe seems a bit stupid.

        But I do appreciate the feedback. I am fine with moving the key, but for fucks sake don't remove it.

    • T5J0N5

      shift letter number shift letter number shift letter number

      Totally annoying without a caps lock key. H - E - double hockey sticks, even touch screen keyboards let you lock the shift with a long press.

      My first thought was "slow news day for this one to make it", but then again here I am responding. Leave the fucking caps key alone.

    • by Livius ( 318358 )

      No, no, killing the UX designers is going too far.

      But let's ban them from ever getting near a computer for the next 50 years.

      Everyone using a computer benefits, and since the UX designers don't realize that computers can be used for practical things they aren't going to miss them.

  • by lucasnate1 ( 4682951 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:45AM (#58922984) Homepage

    I broke my hand and had to type with only one hand. Suddenly caps lock became very useful when I needed capital letters.

  • A mechanical lock would be fine as well, just a little plastic slider. And while we're at it, the F Lock too please.

    • And while we're at it, the F Lock too please.

      Heck no! A wireless Microsoft keyboard has such a switch, and it is a nuisance to have to slide it in order to use the media functions that reside on those function keys.

  • Accidentally hitting escape when trying to press a would be so much more annoying as on software (for instance spreadsheets and some dialog boxes) that would result in you losing ALL of your changes, not just having to retype a few words...

    And just because the writer of TFA only uses their keyboard to argue with people on the internet I personally use it at work. As we have systems (both developer tools and end user software some of which is likely older and more stable than the author) that require string

  • How about first getting rid of the scroll-lock-key? (I know less people using that key than the caps-lock-key)

    • My desktop keyboard still has it but my three laptop keyboards don't. So, it's bowing out gracefully. It only hung around 30 years after it was last used.
  • That key sits right off to the side of the A ... easy to hit with the left pinky. Not sure what is the least bad option.

    As caps-lock, accidentally hitting it so that aLL OF A sudden there are capitals can be annoying, and when doing something with vi where all the letter-commands are case-sensitive and sometimes really dissimilar, it gets even worse. And as noted, the problem of passwords where a common part of the design includes not showing what is being typed in.

    Control isn't that much better: accidenti

    • I recommend making it the Fucking Hurry key. It won't map to any function but it will make you feel better smacking it.
    • Oookay... but why would I ever want to type Control-A (except when using Screen)? Your particular use case is in your niche, not in mine. On the other hand, C macros by convention are all-caps.

  • ABSOLUTELY NOT.

  • by mentil ( 1748130 )

    There already exist gaming keyboards which lack a caps lock key. Maybe just put the key under a molly guard, or make it shorter, or put it in the Corner of Shame next to scroll lock and print screen. It ought to be next to the other 'lock' keys anyways. Double-tapping shift is a software-specific solution that will of course not work universally, especially in old terminal software, DOS etc.

  • by Thorfinn.au ( 1140205 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:03AM (#58923064)
    My keyboard has the [Caps Lock] remapped to compose, which makes it great for non English languages. It good to be able to hit [CL]TH and get or other results such as ç ó ò ø æ ð
    • Why don't you just hold down the letter that you want to have the accent for and have the system present you with a list of options? At least that's all I have to do on the Mac. It's very easy to do. For example, you type "th" and then hold down the "e" and you are presented with the options "è", "é", "ê", "ë"", "", "", and "" each with a number below. All you do is press the corresponding number and the accented letter appears. And no codes to remember.

    • by Teun ( 17872 )
      A simpler way is to select the US International keyboard layout, is covers most non English characters.
  • No (Score:5, Informative)

    by peppepz ( 1311345 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:10AM (#58923074)
    It's used by people who type. If you don't type, then you need no keyboard at all, and in that case the caps lock key shouldn't be a concern of yours.
    Also, it's useful for people who use non-English keyboards (most of the planet), to get uppercase non-English symbols.

    The thing about keyboards is that one can type fast because all the keys have a standardized placement. In today's keyboards, instead, we get keys moved around, randomly squashed to fit the space, status leds placed behind the machine, function keys (again, used by the kind of people who make use of ta keyboard) replaced by media shortcuts (which would be used by the kind of people who typically prefer another input method)...
    Just leave things alone already, sometimes there is a value in conservation as much as there is in innovation.

    /rant

  • Replace it with a headphone jack!

    That would take courage.

    Obviously, leave it alone.

  • Every mac and linux box/notebook I've owned for the past 20 years has had caps lock disabled. I'm sure if I had owned a PC I would've found a way to disable its caps lock as well. Useless key.
  • by keithdowsett ( 260998 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:22AM (#58923120) Homepage

    ...for telling those idiots on the internet WHEN I'M REALLY F***ING ANGRY.

  • Premised On A Lie (Score:5, Informative)

    by dwye ( 1127395 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:28AM (#58923148)

    and even contacted the man who invented the Caps Lock key (Doug Kerr, who had been a Bell Labs telephone engineer in the 1960s):

    I have in my possession a 1940s vintage manual typewriter, and it has a Caps Lock key, so either someone else invented a time machine to reach out to the then-future to steal it, Doug Kerr lied and claimed credit for common art, or medium.com lied about talking to someone about this.

    At best, Kerr might have introduced it on card writers for the Labs. Perhaps a software driven one that did not also shift the digits row, as well.

    • by dwye ( 1127395 )

      Forgot to add this:

      When I got to use my first X terminal at AT&T Research, my first act was to pry off the Caps Lock key top and relocate it to the top middle drawer on the desk, so I understand and also experience the annoyance with it. Nevertheless, ...

  • I remap my caps lock to compose. Then CapsLock u" = ü and CapsLock e= = €, amongst others.
  • In the vt terminal era it was the control key, I still remap my keyboard that way.

  • One of the least used button takes prime real estate, takes space for 2 or 3 buttons, and is surrounded by useful and frequent keys. This leads to accidental clicks. It should not be there. I remap it or remove it from my keyboards.

    Plus, it encourages SCREAMING :) How often do you need to type more than 1-2-3 capital letters consecutively?

    Also, Enter should be vertical, like on ISO keyboards, not horizontal, like on ACSII ones. It's easier to press with the right pinkie.

  • I mean wasn't there a great debate of the decade back then? google-s-decision-to-abandon-caps-lock.html [slate.com]
  • ... at the two finger typists I've seen who would have used caps-lock, the letter 'k', followed by another caps-lock to start the subject of this post. Some of them even know the shift key exists but seem not to care.
    It's frickin hilarious to watch them move their hands so fast but type so slowly.

  • BACKSPACE button (Score:3, Informative)

    by pz ( 113803 ) on Sunday July 14, 2019 @11:18AM (#58924370) Journal

    There are a small handful of users who will remember Symbolics machines and their ilk (e.g., the TI Explorers) with a highly evolved keyboard that included SUPER and HYPER in addition to META (usually now known as "ALT") keys. Typing on them was a breeze because your hands didn't float around. One of the most enlightened features was that BACKSPACE was where the standard CAPS LOCK key is.

    This positioning of BACKSPACE was in every way superior to the standard upper right corner position in current contemporary keyboards.

    On some keyboards and systems, it is possible to remap CAPS LOCK into a BACKSPACE key, but in most I've encountered, CAPS LOCK being stateful (i.e., pressing it toggles the state of the keyboard) is so deeply embedded that it is impossible to circumvent.

    If there is one change that everyone should ask for, more than swapping Fn and Ctrl, it is allowing CAPS LOCK to be remapped as a fully functional BACKSPACE. Trust me, once you try it, you will never go back!

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