Qualcomm and Lenovo's Project Limitless is the First 5G PC (tomshardware.com) 54
Qualcomm said today that it's teaming up with Lenovo on "Project Limitless," the first 5G PC. From a report: It's still really early days for the laptop, which was teased at Qualcomm's press conference, and is pegged for an early 2020 release date. The laptop uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8cx processor paired with a Snapdragon x55 5G modem with 7GBps transfer speeds. In its current form, Project Limitless looks like one of Lenovo's Yoga-series of convertible 2-in-1s, with a bend-back hinge and scallop-shaped chiclet keys. That design is subject to change between now and 2020, I was told.
Limitless? (Score:5)
The same type of no limits as my phone contract?
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Unfortunate Tech (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunately the laptop fails to work if you don't have direct line-of-sight to a 5G tower, so try to set it up in a windowsill in your house across the street from the local Verizon tower (who doesn't own one of those nowadays?)
More unfortunate, you're trying to run a PC on a Snapdragon, so it's only good for tethering your REAL PC to it, or more likely, using WiFi. Since you live across the street from a Verizon backhaul, you already have FiOS.
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Lots of laptops run fine on ARM processors, i.e. Chromebooks. Also lots of tablets.
The real problem is Windows. Get rid of that and you can have a decent machine with an ARM CPU.
Re: Unfortunate Tech (Score:3)
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Good luck finding a game that will run on one of these babies that isnÃ(TM)t included out of the box.
The selection is limited, but it exists. Some games have OSS engines. Some of those games (or engines) are even distributed through the package manager.
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So to clarify, you describe two categories for a computer, "toy" and "games?"
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The real problem is Windows. Get rid of that and you can have a decent machine with an ARM CPU.
Wine still required an x86 or x86-64 CPU last I checked.
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The real problem is Windows. Get rid of that and you can have a decent machine with an ARM CPU.
Wine still required an x86 or x86-64 CPU last I checked.
Fortunately, iOS runs just fine on an ARM.
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If the developer of a Windows application on which you rely is unable or unwilling to port it to iOS, you won't be using it on iOS except through Remote Desktop to a server running Windows.
Re: Unfortunate Tech (Score:4, Informative)
Even worse is you have to have the window open.
5g needs line of sight, no obstructions. A typical double pang glass window provides to much obstruction.
I really don't see much use for 5g tech outside of wifi. The limits on the ultra fast stuff makes it worthless.
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Unfortunately the laptop fails to work if you don't have direct line-of-sight to a 5G tower, so try to set it up in a windowsill in your house across the street from the local Verizon tower (who doesn't own one of those nowadays?)
Direct line-of-sight means something different at high frequency than what we're used to.
The glass in your window will block the signal. Windowsill doesn't help unless you also keep the window open.
This is only something you're going to use while you're having a picnic under the tower.
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This is only something you're going to use while you're having a picnic under the tower.
This is a win-win situation, fast Internet and microwaves from the tower to cook your hot-dogs!
Who really needs this other than the sellers? (Score:1)
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by then most of us will have cell phones that can be tethered to fit that niche.
Re:Who really needs this other than the sellers? (Score:5, Funny)
Of course they called it Limitless. What did you want them to call it? Disabled Fat Sally?
Just be glad the eighties are over and they didn't tack the word "turbo" to it...
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So, Qualcomm and Lenovo are going to create a laptop with a 5G modem that most people will never need, and add a few buzzwords like "limitless" in order to sucker a few early adoptors into paying far more than it is worth.
It's even less meaningful than that. They're going to create a laptop with a mini-pcie slot, and then plug a 5G modem card into it.
And by "limitless" (Score:2)
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Actually, Windows on ARM comes with an emulator that let's you run win32 programs (or at least some of them). No 64-bit programs, though.
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Microsoft should really have pushed universal binaries where software is compiled a single time to an architecture agnostic instruction set, e.g. LLVM and then the OS tur
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The introduction of UWP would have been a good time to say - let's use LLVM and allow devs to target that. Not just for UWP but Win32 in general and we'll provide hooks that mak
Re: And by "limitless" (Score:1)
I guess everything's about gaming laptops now. Even Best Buy hides the pros in the corner. Second laptop? Phablet? The sales guy actually laughed when I asked where the standalone desktops were. I was like OK, I've been watching too many geek shows. Soooo sorry.
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Apple (Score:3)
This should've been announced by Apple, in my opinion. The MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are positioned as the highest quality laptops, and I'd expect that always-available mobile data connection would be part of the package. Especially since the iPads have had it since forever. So you've got the cheapest iPads having a cellular option, but the most expensive laptops not.
(And yeah, I know, you can very easily choose your iPhone under the Personal Hotspot section in the Wifi menubar item).
Re:Apple (Score:4, Insightful)
This should've been announced by Apple, in my opinion. The MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are positioned as the highest quality laptops
Apple has never been the first to support a new cellular interface. There were other UMTS phones before the iPhone 3G, and there were other LTE phones before the iPhone 5.
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This should've been announced by Apple, in my opinion. The MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are positioned as the highest quality laptops
I think I see where you've gone wrong here.
Apple were never the highest quality laptops, just the most overpriced. Price != quality in the slightest, the saying "you get what you pay for" is patently false.
Now that's been dealt with, manufacturers who are not Apple have offered mobile antennas built for years only to find that they are rarely bought because no-one wants them. There are quite a few challenges for the manufacturer here not the least of which is adding an accessible SIM slot, then custom
Has Trump banned Lenovo yet? (Score:1)
He might have by the time you read this.
Re: Has Trump banned Lenovo yet? (Score:1)
The 800 number is right on the box. I highly recommend letting the press listen in for the entertainment value of the president's inevitable oops.
Re: Has Trump banned Lenovo yet? (Score:2, Funny)
I recently started working for Lenovo and my brother in law started giving me crap for be an agent of the PRC. Let me tell you Lenovoâ(TM)s back end systems are so broken thereâ(TM)s no way theyâ(TM)re doing any big brother stuff.
I happen to like those scallop-shaped chiclet keys (Score:2)
I happen to like the scallop-shaped chiclet keys introduced in the recent generation of Thinkpads.
I hope they don't change that.