Mid-Range Google 'Pixel 3 Lite' Leaks With Snapdragon 670, Headphone Jack (9to5google.com) 94
The first alleged images of the rumored "budget" Pixel 3 have been leaked. The Pixel 3 Lite, as it is being called, looks very similar to the Pixel 3, although it features a plastic build construction, slower processor, and a headphone jack. 9to5Google reports: Just like the standard Pixel 3, there's a display that's roughly 5.56-inches in size, but this time it's an IPS LCD panel at 2220x1080 rather than an OLED panel. Obviously, there's also no notch to be seen on this alleged Pixel 3 Lite. There's a single front-facing camera as well as one speaker above that display, relatively thick bezels on the top and bottom, and a speaker along the bottom of the device as well.
Perhaps most interesting when it comes to the hardware, though, is that there's a headphone jack on the top of the phone. That's certainly unexpected since the Pixel 2 dropped the jack and Google hasn't looked back since. Tests from Rozetked reveal some of the specifications running this device as well. That includes a Snapdragon 670 chipset, 4GB of RAM, and 32GB of storage. Previous reports have pointed to a Snapdragon 710. Battery capacity on this device is also reported at 2915 mAh and there's a USB-C port along the bottom. It is rumored to include the same 12MP and 8MP cameras found in the standard Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL, which will be a huge selling point for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500.
Perhaps most interesting when it comes to the hardware, though, is that there's a headphone jack on the top of the phone. That's certainly unexpected since the Pixel 2 dropped the jack and Google hasn't looked back since. Tests from Rozetked reveal some of the specifications running this device as well. That includes a Snapdragon 670 chipset, 4GB of RAM, and 32GB of storage. Previous reports have pointed to a Snapdragon 710. Battery capacity on this device is also reported at 2915 mAh and there's a USB-C port along the bottom. It is rumored to include the same 12MP and 8MP cameras found in the standard Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL, which will be a huge selling point for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500.
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Re: I HATE /. BULLIES like ZIP & c6gunner... a (Score:1)
Shut the fuck up. Just shut it. You are certifiable crazy. You proudly display your stupidity *every* time you post. Nobody here is going to buy your shitty software simply because you are a nutcase.
Just when I lost hope. (Score:2)
Just when I lost all hope of my next phone having a headphone jack. I had been contemplating switching from an iphone to the pixel when they removed the headphone jack.. Thought I was gonna be perpetually stuck on the iphone 6...
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Apple astroturfer seems worried by this product.
Re:Why on earth... (Score:4, Insightful)
Why would you NOT want to be “stuck” with a phone which doesn’t require extra dongles and overpriced, easily lost earbuds?
I’m sure podcasts sound extra great through the $170 wireless ear buds, though.
Re:Why on earth... (Score:4, Insightful)
>"Why would you NOT want to be âoestuckâ with a phone which doesnâ(TM)t require extra dongles and overpriced, easily lost earbuds?"
I think you misread what he said. He wants a reason to leave the iPhone 6. And was contemplating switching to the Pixel but didn't bother, because they removed the headphone jack.
My point on all this is that somehow a headphone jack is cast into the "lite" or "cheap" or non-high-end category now. Just like wanting a phone that isn't GIANT meant you automatically wanted a "budget" phone with slow processor, paltry memory, etc.
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When they pair properly. And the batteries aren't flat. And there's no interference. And you can get through their interface to actually turn them on.
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Because he's not using it for input, he's not digitizing analog signals? (ADC - Analog to Digital Converter).
Now, if you mean the mid-range DAC - Digital to Analog Converter - then that's not as big of an issue. The DACs in most phones are pretty good, it's the amplifier stage after them that sucks, typically. So an external amp is a good thing and significantly improves the audio quality.
And in pretty much all cases, the DAC and amp in a cell phone is better than Bluetooth, unless you're talking about A
Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC (Score:2, Informative)
unless you're talking about AptX HD or LDAC...
Or AAC streamed directly [audioholics.com] to supporting devices, which is what AirPods and some Beats headsets use.
Glad to help you learn something today!
But then, DSD, high res WAV and FLAC, and other high-res formats are difficult if not impossible on iOS
You can use apps like VLC to play FLAC quite easily - or you can use Apple Lossless, ALAC [macworld.com].
Were you not aware iOS supported applications that might use other codecs? Or that Apple has had a losses codec for some time? How odd
Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC (Score:4, Informative)
The difference between Android and IOS being that on iOS, I could choose to use either FLAC or ALAC - on Android I could only choose FLAC.
Or ALAC, if you want (since libavcodec supports it), because open-source technology is cool like that.
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Yeah you're really worried about fidelity when that DAC is right next to a bluetooth transceiver and likely next to a switching power supply. Do you get cleaner power from the batteries when you charge them through a $2000 lightning cable?
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Yeah you're really worried about fidelity when that DAC is right next to a bluetooth transceiver and likely next to a switching power supply.
Meanwhile people complaining about having to use bluetooth are listening over $15 earbuds or maybe a $40 set that has more markup because of gold plastic than anything else.
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You still don't get it. Headphone jack + Bluetooth gives you the most options and the best of everything. If wireless is your thing, Bluetooth is the way to go.... and that's just about the only advantage. If the highest audio quality and ZERO LATENCY are your thing, the headphone jack is always ready to go. Apple fucked you and many other headset makers have followed suit, not to improve the phone or audio experience in any way, but to slightly cut costs and in Apple's case to slowly nudge people into
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Now all your movies can look like they were badly dubbed from the original chinese!
Get that "going live via sattelite" feel when chatting to your friends!
Bluetooth!
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Actually, I may be deaf, but I am latency sensitive.. I can definitely tell when I'm trying to control things through a bluetooth connection. Also phone conversations have enough latency no need to add 500ms more.
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Agreed, All my music comes free with my internet connection in any format I choose.
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You pretty much nailed it. I mainly use the headphone jack to connect the phone to other devices like my stereos in the truck or car because radio sucks. Or into the small speaker system I keep in the bathroom for shower time. I rarely use headphones on my phone. Also i'm partially deaf so sound quality is not my biggest gripe when it comes to shit like this. However pops and whistles(Seriously its 2018 why does this still happen) piss me off. And audio cutting out. I don't know if its because of the phone
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Apple zealots have been that way going all the way back into the mid 1980s. It's why nerds have always despised Apple fans.
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I truly despise Apple as a company, and the majority of their products suck. The ONLY good piece of hardware they have made IMO is the iphone. And the removal of the headphone jack destroyed that. Now they are back where they were 10 years ago in my book. And seeing as I'm me and not anybody else. I couldn't give a shit less if *other* people think they are gods gift to electronics.
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The DAC (not ADC!) in the phone is almost certainly superior to the super shitty little DACs in the earbuds. Thought everybody knew that, oh right Apple manufactures its own facts.
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Why would you want to be stuck with the ADC built into a mid-range phone?
I guess if you only ever spend $15 on ear buds that may be fine.
The ADC is gotta go somewhere; having it in the phone is the technologically superior option.
Not a great way to broadcast your conspicuous consumption using overpriced accessories, but still a superios technological solution.
Re: Why on earth... (Score:1)
As someone who worked on mobile phone audio chip design, I can tell you that even the cheapest DAC (not ADC, you don't know what you're talking about) will not be the limitation, but the headset itself will be.
Of course, the phone maker can mess up a lot with crappy board design, hence all the phones that have worse performance in terms of channel separation and THD when tested with earphones compared to when tested with high impedance audio inputs.
And if you think the DACs inside a crappy dongle would be b
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I guess if you only ever spend $15 on ear buds that may be fine.
Meh. I use these [amazon.com]. $20. They sound fine. Great battery life, too. And wireless >> wired. Wires are a PITA.
Excuse me? (Score:3)
for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500.
Re:Excuse me? (Score:5, Insightful)
>"for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500."
Yeah, wow. I bought my perfectly fine, UNLOCKED Moto G5 Plus from Costco last year for $189 (and now it just upgraded itself to Android 8.1!). AND it has a headphone jack (along with SD card, fingerprint sensor, decent cameras, etc). And now the Moto G6 is going on sale at Costco soon for around that same price.
Since after the Nexus 5, Google has completely forgotten what "reasonable" or "affordable" means. I can't believe people spend over a thousand dollars on a stupid phone now.
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and now it just upgraded itself to Android 8.1
Thanks a bunch! I had totally missed the update waiting for me.
Like you I am pretty satisfied with the Moto G5 Plus. The main hardware feature I'm missing would be a better low-light camera, but I suspect that is a problem most (all?) phone cameras are missing.
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problem -> feature
Sorry about the language goof.
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Two years! (Score:3)
I bet it'll come with two whole years of updates!
Two years!!!
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>"I bet it'll come with two whole years of updates! Two years!!!"
Yeah, like the unlocked Moto G5, which cost $189 at Costco and just updated to 8.1... 2 years is just around the corner. Not bad for less than half the price.
I do take it you were being sarcastic about the 2 years, and I agree. It is hard to believe that 2 years is considered exceptional... to me, that should be a bare minimum, not something to be proud of.
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It's weird... My Pixel XL reached the end of the feature update period in September, but for some reason failed to brick itself. Even stranger it keeps getting updates, including security fixes and apps.
Someone must be asleep at the wheel because it hasn't even been hacked and added to a botnet yet. My personal data remains unstolen.
Re: Two years! (Score:2)
I can beat that. I am typing this on the precursor of the pixel ... A Nexus 6P. I just got an 8.1 notification this morning lol.
But I will say the battery already has been replaced and it is randomly restarting but it is 2.5 years old
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Funny you should mention the XL, still no November security update for the OG Pixel or the Pixel XL, at this rate I'm thinking they're just skipping it and will roll it up with the December update. Pretty sad when Google with only 8 models to support can't reliably update their phones (6 models after this month, 6P and 5x just got their final update unless something changes, which seems unlikely). Oh, and they don't provide security updates if you don't update your phone to the newest OS, was stuck without
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Are there any pending security updates for the Pixel/XL? Maybe there just aren't any at the moment.
Re: Two years! (Score:2)
To answer your question, just got the November updates this morning, no idea what took nearly a month, though I guess I'm good they actually QA their patches, unlike MS of late.
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Major OS updates? Yes. That's acceptable. But it'll also receive security updates for much much longer. That's standard for all but no-name-company phones.
I wish it were standard. It's not. Unfortunately, it's much better than the standard, which is no commitment to updates at all.
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I bet it'll come with two whole years of updates!
Two years!!!
I'm sure it'll be three years, same as the other Pixel 3s.
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Great news (Score:5, Interesting)
If this has the camera features of the pixel 3 (even if it doesn't have as good a lens) this is almost certainly my next phone - if it has a Nexus price point. I've avoided the z
Pixel line so far but am super impressed with my partner's Pixel 3, but hate the price tag and lack of headphone jack.
If they put an SD card and removable battery in this it'd be even better of course.
All hinges on the price point though for me! I'm on a Nexus 5X which is feeling a bit dated.
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If you care about photo quality, forget phones, get a real camera!
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If you care about photo quality, forget phones, get a real camera!
Absolutely. But the best camera in the world is no use if you don't have it with you - which is going to be most of the time. I always have my phone though... If you care about photography during all the times you're not carrying your dedicated device, then yes you should also be getting the best photography phone that you can.
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I have a Canon 50D SLR and lenses and am about to upgrade to a 5D. But I don't carry it everywhere. The quality of the latest gen phone cameras is simply stunning for casual use.
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From what I've read it has the same hardware / software for the camera as the 3 / 3XL, so this could easily be a good compromise. I don't need the latest most awesomest phone but having had a Pixel 2, I'd really struggle to give up the camera.
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I would bet it's no more difficult to never log onto Google on this phone than it is on any other Android device. You don't need to log on with a Google account. There are alternative app stores and the phone will be fine and usable without ever logging into Google on it.
You'll want to not be a gmail user, of course, but that should go without saying, if you're google-shy.
Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poors' (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm sick of the features I want, being relegated to the 'basic' phones, with the assumption that only the 'basic users' need them.
Try and offer 2 identical premium phones but with variations like headphone jack or curved non curved.
Samsung? Hello, I want your top of the line phones. I do NOT IN ANY WAY want them with curved screens, therefore, I assume you don't want me to buy your phones.
Google? Hi, I'm not fully into your phones, but you've _ensured_ I won't try them, without headphone jacks.
Huawei, I'm considering that new Mate 20 phone, it sounds half decent. Why the @#% (!!!) does the non pro phone, which has a nice FLAT screen, have to be IPS and not OLED? Having gotten used to OLED on a phone, especially in bed / dark rooms, why would you make a pretty damn premium phone and put IPS in it? When your pro model of the same phone is curved / oled but without a headphone jack.
I spent 3 hours not more than 24 hours ago and as someone who used to be a phone junkie, I had issues with every single phone I found.
Seriously, would someone just copy the Note 5 or 4 but put in a top of the line processor, nicer camera and a USB-C socket? I'll pay an extra $200 at this point.
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OLED has durability issues, you know.
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It does, but it takes a lot of it use for that. I'm literally on my 5th OLED phone.
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I'm literally on my 5th OLED phone.
So you change phones pretty often, right? But people who want to make the most of the investment won't change them so often, so they will encounter those issues. Maybe it's intentional, a kind of planned obsolescence.
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OLEDs are hard to manufacture.
Apple pretty much bought up the supply of OLED screen manufacturing equipment for years to ensure Samsung could actually make enough (the iPhone X pretty much trumped Samsung's normal OLED production for their high end phones, so Apple had to ensure Samsung had at least double the equipment. And we're talking about something that is produced in single quantities per year - the manufacturer Samsung's equipment comes from makes at most 2 machines a year.)
Tiny monochrome OLEDs are
Re: Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poo (Score:2)
Look up pocophone. Every Indian I know swears by them. Liquid cooling, headphone jack, dust resistant, and a snap dragon 845 for $399.
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Stop calling 600 EUR phones "affordable" (Score:1)
When you come down to 200 EUR, then you can start calling phones "budget" and "affordable".
This phone will be less capable than the 150 EUR Xiaomi A2 Lite, and still cost 4 times as much. If you've got more money than sense, then Google would like to do business with you.
Who is building it for them? (Score:2)
If it's LG or HTC, #donotwant
Only incompetents want to build phones for Google, everyone else can sell phones with their own names on them
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It'll be made by Foxconn just like the Pixel 3/XL.
too expensive (Score:2)
with those specs, you can find them on phones way cheaper, even with Android One.
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