Amazon's Kindle Voyage May Be Over (cnet.com) 112
Amazon's Kindle e-reader family seems to have lost a member along the way, with the disappearance of the Voyage from its Kindle Family listing. From a report: The site now lists just three models in its lineup of eight configurations, the Kindle, Kindle Paperwhite and Kindle Oasis. Good e-Reader first noticed this a few weeks back, saying the Voyage seems to have vanished in July. In years past when Amazon has refreshed its Kindle e-readers and Fire tablets, it has done it in the summer or fall. The high-end Oasis was last updated in October 2017, but the most recent midline Paperwhite last saw changes in 2015, and the basic Kindle in 2016. Chances are one or both of the older models will receive an update in the near future.
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But what is Amazon doing with its R&D team?
If you flag it as good enough and the product is done. Then your R&D team will either be fired or moved onto a different product all together. Risking having your product become outdated, and not having the resources to ramp up and catch up.
Just like phones last decade. Flip Phones, reached what a Flip Phone can do. Smart Phones were dominated by black berry, and each update to blackberry wasn't that big of a deal.
Apple iPhone concept put shock into these
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Battery life, the fact that e-ink is much better to read in the sun, etc, and sheer portability come to mind.
I realize millenials cannot go more than 2 minutes without obsessively refreshing their favorite social media site or looking at porn, but there is plenty of room for people who just want to read a book.
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I can only imagine you've never used an e-ink ebook reader. You just cannot compare the experience of the paperwhite e-ink reader to a tablet, both for reading and living with it otherwise. Charging your kindle once a month and being able to read it outdoors as easily as a physical book, you just can't get that with a "full-blown tablet".
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Yup. The Kindle Paperwhite is a superior device. Read anywhere, never worry about battery life, and a pleasant & low distraction UI. Just barely pocket size. So it is easily carried without the display being too tiny. Ability to buy obscure books almost instantly if I see an interesting reference.
Amazon probably makes a lot more ebook sales on Kindle than anywhere else. I can't imagine buying an ebook to read on the laptop - I'll find a free copy somewhere. But that requires time & effort. If I can
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Charging your kindle once a month and being able to read it outdoors as easily as a physical book, you just can't get that with a "full-blown tablet".
I don't imagine that I'm a typical user, but I do most of my reading indoors. The exception is when I'm using digital documentation for auto repair, but then I don't want to put my greasy fingers all over a PDA. I want to print out the pages I need, get them all greasy, and then recycle or discard them. Most people don't spend much time outside any more, and when they do, they're rarely reading. Consequently, the only functionality of e-Ink that's really relevant to most users is low power consumption. Most
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They tend to be considerably lighter. More importantly they are far easier on the eyes than most tablets due to not having a backlight. The exception for me is oled which is superior to all other solutions when reading white text on black background in a dim room. So now I just read on my phone.
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They tend to be considerably lighter. More importantly they are far easier on the eyes than most tablets due to not having a backlight.
I find that so long as I adjust the display brightness according to the ambient light, a TFT tablet is plenty easy on the eyes. Meanwhile, e-Ink either requires an external light, or has some oddly-colored backlight, and/or provides patchy illumination. TFTs have none of these problems. I used my e-Ink reader so little that two batteries died for lack of proper usage cycles.
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If you're speaking of the paperwhite having a backlight, it does not. The light is indeed a crappy temperature though.
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If you're speaking of the paperwhite having a backlight, it does not. The light is indeed a crappy temperature though.
I'm not overly familiar with a range of e-Ink products, I have ye olde nook simple touch. But I do know those which do have front-lights, and not backlights, because e-Ink. And they all seem to be trying to mimic the experience of reading underwater, sometimes in a swamp.
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Paperwhites, Voyages, etc. are edge-lit.
It is my understanding that the entire class of devices uses a light wedge, so they are effectively front-lit. My problem is with the frequency of light used. I'm not happy with it.
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From you comment it is so clear that you don't read a lot using a table.
The battery life is many times greater than a full color tablet and you can comfortably read when sitting in the sun. I have a kindle fire for indoor reading and there have been many times I will read to the point I need to recharge the battery in a single sessions (starting at 75% or greater charge). I have never come close to that in a single session with my paperwhite.
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Because I have 0 use for a tablet, they're hard on the eyes, constantly need to be recharged, and provide oh so convenient avenues for privacy invasion. They also provide me no utility- the last time I decided to watch a movie when not at home was.... actually never. I'd go back to paper books before I got rid of my eink device. I'd buy an eink before I took a free tablet.
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Kindle DX was an almost 10" screen. It seems there's no market for the textbook / letter / A4 sized e-reader, so they were back to novel-only sized units.
But I agree. Anyone I know that upgraded an e-reader only does so because the old one broke.
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There isn't much point to the Kindle Voyage - it doesn't have enough advantage over the Paperwhite to justify the cost.
Simplifying the lineup makes sense - you have the basic device without a built-in light, a mid-range device with a built-in light, and a premium device with larger reading area extra features (e.g. bluetooth audio for audiobooks).
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You pay less "cash money" than without the ads, and they don't show up when reading. If you don't mind reading on the epaper screen, Kindles have only gotten better with time - backlights, controls, speed, capacity, and screen quality have all improved.
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Then why are you reading - much less commenting - on an article about ebook readers? Do you think ranting about dead tree carcasses is going to convince others that we've made a grievous error?
I'm not trying to sell you on anything, but you seem to be hell-bent on evangelizing.
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Haha, sorry to send you off the deep end :)
I'm here for the echo chamber. It's a tech site. If I want curmudgeonly anti-ebook stuff I'll go talk to the old lady who runs our book store...
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Lol, your last sentence is awesome! I went back and read all the Trolls comments in a cranky old ladies voice.
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It's trolling. If it was someone genuinely passionate about paper books, we'd have been told about why they are passionate about paper books.
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Occam demands a sexual explanation.
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There are a total of 6 ads on that page.
I am pretty sure one is the special offers which can be removed.
The other and the My Reading list need to go
Also need a list view without the cover page as well, but I doubt that will ever happen. People like pictures.
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All the other things you mentioned: I've mentally disciplined myself to ignore them and not let them distract me. Get on my level.
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Not like there is much good on it.
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I moved to e-readers and never looked back. Not having to dispose of piles of finished books, not having to find my place, lower costs for the books, and they don't cause six hour inkfinger syndrome. Also I bought a Sony ereader, and when their ebook marketplace failed, they did have an end of life plan to let me keep my purchases.
One other huge thing is that Amazon offers ebook credit if you accept slow shipping. I get more than the cost of Prime in free ebooks every year.
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Also it's a fantastic way to support self-published people and read books that would never ever see print otherwise. There's also a lot of great web serials out there that are too long or offbeat to otherwise make their authors money.
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Since they started adding ads to the home screen (Even the one without special offers), these were no longer worth buying.
What are you talking about? I have the Voyage, paid my $20, and the ads went away - ALL of them.
When I power on my Kindle, all I see is the last page of text I was reading.
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is truly beyond me. The so-called "copyright" isn't a right, the so-called "intellectual property" is not property.
These used to be contracts with a pretty narrow meaning - a few years of monopoly on the distribution of your work and all the money you can get for it, but IN EXCHANGE for making it available afterwards.
Today, the second part of the deal is gone, so there is absolutely no reason to stick to the first one, and especially to accept the sodomizer of the reader that the DRM is.
No amazon, no kindle
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because it works to read books in any font size I want with old eyes that have trouble with paper books.
I can read my kindle books on other devices too if I wanted. Like in browser.
The DRM doesn't even matter in this case, it's just an appliance. if amazon went away the kindle still works too.
Been using it for 8 years with no issue.
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i'm just hoping my DX doesn't ever die, why they stopped the larger form factor reader is beyond me. 6 years and counting, the battery is showing signs of stress, but still usable =/
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mine is the 2012 model... battery still good
the naysayers might point to the "Animal Farm" book Amazon retracted when the source company didn't really have rights to it.... but good grief
There are 48.5 million books available for kindle. 1 out of 48.5 million had that problem and so autists go full on Richard Stallman pulpit pounding? Pfffftttt.
The paper versions didn't go away, I could read those with a magnifying glass if the day comes all kindles die. But Kindle is convenient, it works, it never fail
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not locked down, I can import and read open documents too. In fact, it's more useful than any open source device the way things are at present.
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Enjoy your locked down walled garden snowflake.
It's an excellent piece of hardware. As for "walled garden"... google Calibre. You're welcome.
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No it was Orwell's Animal Farm as I said. And it was *temporary* because of fault of upstream provider.
One time from 48.5 million ebooks available on kindle. 9 years ago.
yeah that has any thinking person shaking in their boots.
I'll even say that right now my kindle is more useful than any open source device for reading books.
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i'm just hoping my DX doesn't ever die, why they stopped the larger form factor reader is beyond me. 6 years and counting, the battery is showing signs of stress, but still usable =/
It's fairly straightforward to replace the battery. Look on eBay for them.
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For me (using kindle app. on an iPad mini) it's the ability to effectively carry large number of books when I travel,
at very little weight. In addition, I'm learning French and it's very convenient to be able to look up words simply by
highlighting them.
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Removal of Amazon DRM is trivial in Calibre and you don't need to use DRM ebooks in the first place.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remove+ki... [lmgtfy.com]
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Removal of Amazon DRM is trivial in Calibre and you don't need to use DRM ebooks in the first place.
Well, it's a little more involved than that, given that the DeDRM plugin doesn't really work with Amazon's new (and default) KFX format. It's still doable, though.
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That gives you a clue how often I buy books from Amazon :)
e-Ink laptop (Score:3)
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You can absolutely kludge up an e-ink laptop or tablet with existing products. A raspberry combined with any number of e-ink screen solutions is quite doable right this very minute, and you can go up from there. But I don't recommend it. There are intractable problems with e-ink's refresh rate, and there's no good way to have color without further screwing with how the white space of the screen looks. You can push the refresh rate on e-ink up a fair bit...but not for long. It'll damage the screen permanentl
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e-ink displays, including for laptops, have been around for a while now.
I came across a blog a couple of years ago that was dedicated to documenting swapping out laptop LED monitors with dual-purpose LED/e-ink monitors. I can't find the link now, however Dasung [dasungtech.com] seem to be a known manufacturer.
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The company appears to be long gone, the domain has generic businessy content for feeding ads, and there's a link from Wikipedia to a small company in Georgia that may still do custom manufacture of those screens.
ONYX MAX 2 (Score:1)
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The King Jim Pomera DM100 is pretty much that.
http://pomeradm100guide.com/ [pomeradm100guide.com]
Except it's not really e-reader or general purpose computing. More of a writer's tool. But it has absurd battery life on two AA batteries, and is quite nice for typing and doing simple spreadsheets. As long as you're happy with English and Japanese.
I really wish something like that but running a light weight Linux would be available. Console only would be perfectly fine for my needs.
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I'd want an e-ink or split-screen e-ink/OLED laptop, frankly. It could be an e-reader and a general-purpose computing device. With the e-ink display, it could have absurd battery life (days to weeks).
You do know at laptop resolutions the screen refresh rate would be measured in seconds?
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Not exactly suprising (Score:3)
I was shopping for a replacement for my long in the tooth and increasingly flaky Fire. I pretty much only used it for reading library books I checked out online. When I compared the feature set of Paperwhite versus Voyage it was truly difficult to come up with anything that made the Voyage worth the extra money. Screen resolution was the same, both had backlights for night reading, both were about the same size, both were about the same weight. Battery life was pretty similar. The Voyage had a bit of an edge on the storage side, but since I only ever store a couple books on the thing it's not a big deal. Finding a refurbished Paperwhite for short money sealed the deal in favor of the Paperwhite.
My only complaint with the Paperwhite is that there isn't a way to access the Overdrive/Libby system from the device itself. Other than that I really enjoy having a device without the ability to browse the web in any meaningful way with very long battery life. Some might say "well, a book can do that", but if it's outside my library's hours, it's hard to go pick one up!
Video killed the radio star (Score:2)
and the abolition of roaming charges killed the voyage, because we don't need it anymore.
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The link you provided only shows used models.
Note: This item is only available from third-party sellers (see all offers).
If you go to the Kindle frontpage on Amazon [amazon.com] there are no Voyage models shown in the comparison table.
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Sad. I like it despite its shortcomings (Score:3)
Back in 2015 I purchased a Voyage and is still a trusted companion that gave me hours and hours of reading. I have it always close to me and I try to sneak in a read whenever I can.
If this news is indeed true, the sad part is the PagePress controls, which I love and are very useful to me; the Voyage is the only model to offer them. With its haptic feedback, it felt natural and speedy to me. I was certain it was a win, UX-wise, but looks like I was wrong.
Besides that, it was obvious that the Voyage would be a dud. The price was too high, Amazon did almost no rebates of the price, so the result was clear: it didn't sell.
It also shared almost all the shortcomings of other models in the Kindle lineup: poor battery life (with the possible exception of the Oasis), awful font choices (why invest $$ in an e-reader when you are going to read your books with an ugly, utilitarian font such as Bookerly with no better default options and no chance of supplying your own?), and lack of a case (again, save the Oasis).
I hope they soon lauch something with PagePress and with other drawbacks of the Kindle e-ink lineup removed.
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But the second generation Oasis has real buttons. Even better.
The basic problem with the Voyage is that it's caught in the middle. People who want a fully premium e-reader step up to the Oasis. People who want the mainstream offering buy the Paperwhite, and bargain hunters buy the basic Kindle. The Voyage is the Oldsmobile of the Kindle line and has now suffered the same fate that the car line did.
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I understand and agree with what you said. I think that most people see the Oasis' real buttons and think like you: "Even better".
But I beg to differ with one point: PagePress is much better IMHO. "Real buttons" are great, but I bet PagePress last much longer than real buttons.
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Nothing that a good cover could not fix :)
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