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Carmel, Libra, and Andromeda Are the Next Wave of Surface Devices: Report (thurrott.com) 38

Brad Sams, writing for Thurrott blog: To help grow to the footprint of the brand, Microsoft is working on updates to its existing products as well as a couple new offerings. I was able to view a few pieces of internal documents that outlined some of the future plans of the Surface brand that identify previously unknown codenames for upcoming products. The Surface Pro 6 is internally known as Carmel, the upcoming low-cost Surface Tablet is going by the name of Libra, and then, of course, there is the Andromeda device that we have been talking about for many months. The Libra tablet is likely the device that Bloomberg reported about earlier this year; a low-cost Surface tablet slated for 2018. The Surface Pro 6 (Carmel) does not list a shipping date and considering that Microsoft only recently released the LTE variant of the Surface Pro 5, this product may not arrive as soon as many have hoped. That being said, a refresh of the product is in the pipeline and actively being developed. And then there is Andromeda; here is where this gets a bit more interesting. According to the documentation, the device is scheduled to be released in 2018. Microsoft thinks of this hardware as a pocketable device to create a truly personal and versatile computing experience.

Carmel, Libra, and Andromeda Are the Next Wave of Surface Devices: Report

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  • Sealed devices. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by b0s0z0ku ( 752509 ) on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:43PM (#56772348)
    Sealed, non-upgradable, non-repairable devices costing near or over $1000? No thanks. I can get a real laptop for that price -- why buy a crippled device?
    • Re:Sealed devices. (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Miser ( 36591 ) on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @12:46PM (#56772360)

      Yup. I was going to mod you up but then of course couldn't reply.

      No more Surfaces here. Microsoft de-supports them too quickly, can't repair them (requiring the extended warranty) and they act "goofy" for no apparent reason - just this morning someone with a Surface Pro 3 had it "shut off" for no apparent reason and had to do the "un plug" "re plug" "stand on your head dance" to get it to come up again. No more. The blame lies squarely on Microsoft as it's both their hardware and operating system. You'd think it would just work, right? (sarcasm intended)

      • I made the mistake of buying a Surface Pro 4 a while back. The shit wouldn't wake up from standby half the time, necessitating a hard reset. Imagine that. A tablet that has to be constantly reset. Back to Costco. That was the end of that and now I'm back to the T420 for good.

    • Thin, small, high end device costing over $1000? Yes please. Why carry a brick for a repair I will never do, or an upgrade it won't ever need?

      Seriously though upgradability? Sounds like a throwback to the 90s. Repairability? That's what warranties are for, and the device that takes the most abuse (keyboard) is removable.

      I'll stick with being crippled thanks.

      • You say this like the 90s were a bad thing...
        • No I'm saying like I'm glad I have a choice unlike the 90s where all you got was beige boxes and rectangular bricks. I can count the number of times I've upgraded a serious laptop on the none existent fingers of a quadruple amputee.

          Many of us don't give a crap about that kind of thing. Many of us also live in countries where strong consumer protections mean those strange things you call "extended warranties" aren't even offered, we just call them warranties.

          Use cases differ. Enjoy carrying around your lugga

          • LOL. My "luggable" is 2.5lb, which is about the same as a Smurface Pro + keyboard + case to protect the fragile glass screen is. And yes, I've upgraded the memory. As well as moving the SSD to an identical laptop when I dropped one and it broke.

            "Use the cloud," you say. I prefer to be cloudfree -- I don't want my data to be MS's or Google's to mine and play with without me consent. And yes, I do make backups, but it's a lot faster to swap an SSD than restoring from backup...

            • Case? Way to go. Why not just say you've never seen the product.

              And yes, I've upgraded the memory.

              What a strange man.

              "Use the cloud," you say. I prefer to be cloudfree

              I'm cloud free too. That doesn't mean I don't have a sync solution to a service I control. MS? Google? See yourself out and turn in your nerd card at the door.

              but it's a lot faster to swap an SSD than restoring from backup

              I'll race you: Reinstall windows because of the hardware swap vs take an existing version of windows, and install one app that live syncs. Seriously you make it so hard on yourself. I don't get it.

              • Windows 7 deals fine with a swap to identical hardware/mobo. At worst, it needs to be reactivated. 10 also seems to have a way to reactivate -- don't know about 8/8.1, never run this cr@p.

                I mostly use desktop Linux anyway, which doesn't whine about a hardware swap at all.

                • Windows 7 deals fine with a swap to identical hardware/mobo

                  Nope, your specific scenario luckily worked for you. Most windows installations (including the Windows 7 ones I've done myself) tend to nuke themselves.

                  I mostly use desktop Linux anyway, which doesn't whine about a hardware swap at all.

                  And you wonder why you don't understand the hardware desires of the common man.

  • That is a truly crazy mix of code names, from candy to astrology to astronomy?

    I wonder if such a non-cohesive set fo code names reflect a similar lack of product direction underneath...

    • That is a truly crazy mix of code names, from candy to astrology to astronomy?

      Carmel is a place.

      Caramel is a candy.

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