California Becomes 18th State To Consider Right To Repair Legislation (vice.com) 96
Jason Koebler shares a report from Motherboard: The right to repair battle has come to Silicon Valley's home state: Wednesday, a state assembly member announced that California would become the 18th state in the country to consider legislation that would make it easier to repair your electronics. "The Right to Repair Act will provide consumers with the freedom to have their electronic products and appliances fixed by a repair shop or service provider of their choice, a practice that was taken for granted a generation ago but is now becoming increasingly rare in a world of planned obsolescence," Susan Talamantes Engman, a Democrat from Stockton who introduced the bill, said in a statement. The announcement had been rumored for about a week but became official Wednesday. The bill would require electronics manufacturers to make repair guides and repair parts available to the public and independent repair professionals and would also would make diagnostic software and tools that are available to authorized and first-party repair technicians available to independent companies.
can they repair their state first? (Score:1, Insightful)
seriously they live in a state that is fucked up beyond belief, try repairing that first imo
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California is a lovely place to live outside of LA and Silicon Valley. Plenty of nice places that aren't out in the desert. High (progressive) income tax + low (regressive) real estate taxes are actually a good thing.
And as goes CA, goes the country -- hope this one passes.
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I'd tell you to enjoy Kentucky, but I see that they just outlawed child brides. More big government overreach, amirite? Maybe Alabama will be more to your liking.
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Come now, that's not fair. People in different regions of this huge nation are...different. Doesn't make them bad. Honestly, the overwhelming majority of people in the US agree on basic principles we simply disagree on what & how to do or not do in our going about exercising and upholding them.
Don't allow demographic/ethnic/racial/religious/party group identities lead you to believe in absolutes and generalities when it comes to discussing issues wi
Re:can they repair their state first? (Score:5, Insightful)
Your statement would be more convincing if your signature line didn't accuse all liberals of wanting a police state.
This needs to be addressed first.
My sig refers to ideas and ideology, not people. That's a large part of why there's such a disconnect. Nazis of the 19030s/40s are bad, but the German people are and were not bad, it's the Nazi ideas that are bad. Calling those ideas out as bad is not saying the German people are bad. Same thing here. I'm criticizing a set of ideas, not people.
We need to be able to discuss ideas calmly and logically or there is no hope of maintaining a stable nation.
Come now, that's not fair. People in different regions of this huge nation are...different.
That's true. Some regions like to marry 13 year-olds and some vote Democratic.
And in California men marry men and women marry women which is just as strange to them. Again, you attack some mythical group that somehow all believe in lockstep when that's not true of either Left- or Right-leaning people in the US, and somehow also believe your ideas are superior by default. That just works to stop people listening to what those who may disagree are actually saying. It doesn't help solve anything and only makes things worse.
Besides, that's not really fair as few places still have laws allowing marriage that young, and many are old laws left over from as far back as the Reconstruction era. The States you referenced were also States for many decades prior to many of the more liberal Western States and so those much more recent States started out with more-current laws and customs.
Can't we find things, like this proposed Act where we share common ground, that we can come together on and stop demonizing each other on and trying to "win" by any means, even destroying innocent people's lives? It's either that or eventually we end up in a place where there are internment camps and mass graves.
Strat
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What's that now? You have found ideologies that exist in the absence of people?
You may not have seen the news, but same-sex marriage is now the law of the land in all 50 states. Men marry men and women marry women in every one of them.
And
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Pope, even though I'm a leftist I have to point out that after reading this whole thread I feel that you are being overly uncivil toward Strat.
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You caught that, did you? Wow, nothing gets by you, does it?
You may not have noticed, but the time for civil discourse ended when a black man became president and we were treated to eight years of the most over-the-top racism and hatred.
Apparently, like budget deficits, angry rhetoric is only acceptable when Republicans do it.
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You do yourself a disservice with your insults/snarkiness/anger.
I voted for and gave his campaign money three times (including the primaries), but I'm glad I haven't felt so injured by some of the opposition's reactionary response that it has made me stoop to their level of discourse. That would only make things worse.
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki... [wiktionary.org]
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Sigh. Thanks for the off-topic link. None of that applies, and my messages to you have been completely honest.
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Nazis of the 19030s/40s are bad, but the German people are and were not bad, it's the Nazi ideas that are bad. Calling those ideas out as bad is not saying the German people are bad. Same thing here. I'm criticizing a set of ideas, not people.
That carries less weight when you remember that not all Germans in 1946 were members of the NAZI party. NAZIs were political supporters of Hitler's regime. It was a big deal whether or not you were a party member. Probably less so than in China these days, but I'm not sure.
Ok, look at it this way. I'm absolutely sure there were people in the KKK that were pretty ok people. It might have been just been peer pressure, or maybe it was more like a BBQ group, or a drinking club with a racial pride disorder.
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Ok, I'm a leftist and thus feel a bit put off by your signature (although not entirely since I criticize "liberals" from the left - I would really need to understand what exactly you mean before passing judgement). I also feel that your example of Germans and Nazis is really shaky ground for an example to make an argument out of. Similarly, the gay marriage thing also seems like not the most apt example.
However, I agree with or at least understand your perspective on much of what you say on this post otherw
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Ok, I'm a leftist and thus feel a bit put off by your signature (although not entirely since I criticize "liberals" from the left - I would really need to understand what exactly you mean before passing judgement).
Even if we end up not agreeing, let me start out by thanking you for being civil and open enough to ask. I'll do my best to help you understand.
It's actually Progressivism and Progressives I have issues with, not classic Liberals which are libertarian. I tried to hint at the distinction, but there's only so many characters allowed in the sig.
The other part is simply the fact that as you create more and more laws that intrude ever deeper into individual behaviors, thoughts, beliefs, health choices, etc etc a
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You're welcome, and thank you too for explaining. Here are my thoughts in response:
First, I think that one of the problems is that labels like progressives, liberals, conservatives, etc. mean different things to different people, and their meaning changes over time and mean different things in different places, even places that use the same language. This ends up causing all kinds of major problems because people end up attacking others just based on labels, and not for actual ideas and actions.
Second, I fe
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Second, I feel similarly about intrusion into people's personal lives, but from the other side. I think that you are mistakenly targeting progressives/liberals because conservatives are just as apt to intrude into peoples lives, just for different reasons (sexuality, drugs, abortion, etc).
I'm more small-"L" libertarian and so those sorts of attempts at legislating morality (War on Some Drugs, for example) I have strong objections to and part ways with many mainstream US "conservative" views. On the other side, O'm against forcing Christians to participate in activities supporting same-sex marriage. Why try to usurp the Christian religion and try to force it to change? Found your own church and practice whatever religion or no religion you want and marry trees or rose bushes for all I care. L
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In some ways I'm sympathetic to libertarian ideas. I tend to score as left libertarian on the politicalcompass.org test. Their test is interesting because they measure two different scales: economic and social.
I don't feel that Christians are really being forced to participate in activities supporting same-sex marriage. The only case that I'm familiar with that could be described that way is the gay wedding cake case, but that one is a complicated enough case that it has been taken on by the supreme court.
I
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I don't feel that Christians are really being forced to participate in activities supporting same-sex marriage. The only case that I'm familiar with that could be described that way is the gay wedding cake case, but that one is a complicated enough case that it has been taken on by the supreme court.
In that wedding cake case, the lesbian couple had frequented the bakery several times, letting it be known to the owners that they were lesbian, the couple were served normally like everyone else. The problem was when the couple decided that they wanted the Christian bakery to make them a custom wedding cake with text celebrating same-sex marriage. That's when the Christian owner balked, but did recommend some nearby bakeries he knew that did good work and would be willing. The couple was having none of it,
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Thanks for the additional details on the cake case. I have a feeling that the supreme court will come down on the side of the baker, because of the reasons you stated and because it actually makes sense not to compel the baker's speech. I say that even though I support people's right to same-sex marriage.
I will definitely read them to learn more. I too wish we had better politicians across the spectrum, and it would be interesting to read about when they were much better.
You have, and I hope I have done the
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It's principles that really count, the good news being that most of us share far, far more principles than we differ on.
Todd Rundgren has an EXCELLENT song addressing that exact point (that we are all more alike than different, regardless of politics, religion, etc). The Title is "Family Values", on his solo album from 1995, "The Individualist".
Definitely worth a listen! Here ya go:
https://genius.com/Todd-rundgr... [genius.com]
It was an "Enhanced" CD, with an (interactive!) video animation to go with each song. I can't find the one for "Family Values"; but here's a version of the song that is VERY close to the one on the album. Sounds ju
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In general I agree with you, but the problem is that anywhere in the USA is a shitty place to live in comparison to most Western Democracies if you are poor.
But still screw 'em the old way (Score:3)
Can't have mere users having diagnostic tools... they might find that they can repair the thing without paying a repair technician.
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It'll end up costing more for the cable to connect to it than it would cost to replace the unit.
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No way, diagnostic tools are known to cause cancer to the state of California.
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How about source code, the right to repaid the broken arse POS Windows anal probe 10 and get rid of the privacy invasive shit and permanently block the cunts at M$ from installing software on your property, your digital life, those fucking sickening scum, the filth right out of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four, their ideas are as sick as fuck.
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I've been there! What do I win?
If you think a strip mine is beautiful. I hope you don't mind bottled water, unless you like coal sludge, of course. It's so beautiful there that everyone has to crush up and shoot Oxycontin to get through the day.
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Well, at least one of us started out with teeth.
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I've been there! What do I win?
If you think a strip mine is beautiful. I hope you don't mind bottled water, unless you like coal sludge, of course. It's so beautiful there that everyone has to crush up and shoot Oxycontin to get through the day.
It IS actually beautiful country. My sister and ex-brother-in-law lived there for a time.
However, the operant word is "Retire"; because, although "breathtakinly beautiful", there is essentially NO WORK. My sister and B-I-L were both degreed nurses; but she simply couldn't find work, and he ended up working part-time as a DJ in a Roller-Rink...
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That actually sounds kind of awesome. I could see myself spinning some roller-disco bangers in a rink. My concern would be that the West Virginia skaters would want to hear country-rap and I'd have to burn the place down.
Here is a dream sequence of me spinning records at a roller rink:
https://youtu.be/vprZhrFNL_U [youtu.be]
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says the AC too ashamed to use a real account?
no details, either? just a shitpost and an exit.
not even sure why we reply to AC's. and not sure why his was voted up. it was as content-free as it gets.
I live here in cali and while its not perfect, its heaven for hardware types like myself, who also do software for their day-jobs. just come visit HALTED electronics (well known in the bay area) and go show me other places that have this kind of surplus gear for sale. there are places in the US who have sto
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food is great out here, we're not all one culture, the only down-side other than house prices is the ageism in hiring. once over 40, its hard to find and keep tech jobs.
That's true in the Midwest, where I live, too. I had to take a job writing (shudder) Windows ERP SW.
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My current phone has a little door I can pull off that gives me access to the lithium battery inside. I have opened it multiple times. I even dropped it once and it popped open on it's own. The battery spilled out that time, but it didn't go off like a grenade.
You have some interesting fantasies about lithium batteries.
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Ironically, my phone with the non-exploding lithium battery is a Samsung Galaxy J3.
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Having replaced
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I've probably had thousands of lithium ion batteries pass through my hands over the years.
When I started playing Ingress [ingress.com], battery packs weren't popular and yet, so we carried spare batteries. To play for hours, we had to swap batteries, or be tethered to a car. They were dropped, manhandled, and otherwise abused. Of everyone I know that did it, none died. No explosions. No fires.
The only real thing we found was, repeated charge/discharge cycles daily did eventually degrade the life of the batteries. A
Can I ... (Score:3, Funny)
Nope (Score:3, Interesting)
Your AR-15 doesn't have a full auto mode.
You can modify an AR-15 to be full auto, but it's tricky and probably won't work. The AR-15 tends to jam when fired at full-auto rates.
Also, such modifications are illegal.
What you *can* do is modify a liberal so that they know what they're talking about when it comes to guns.
That's also tricky and probably won't work, but it's not illegal.
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The "AR" in AR-15 stands for "The Actually Rifle 15" because any time someone gets some inconsequential fact wrong about it, 15 idiots will appear out of thin air to "actually,,," you with some boring nonsense about their stupid murder machine.
Nobody really cares except other potential school shooters.
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If you're participating in a debate/conversation, you should care about facts.
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And if you're participating in a debate about preventing school kids from being shot up, you should care at least as much about the school kids as you do about whether someone is using the proper terminology for the killing appliance that was used to slaughter them.
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Grandstanding on freshly dug graves to push your politics while bemoaning the ones with facts... How admirable.
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I guess you're not old enough to remember 9/11.
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I didn't like the emotionally driven reaction policy after 9/11 as I don't like it now with Florida. If you didn't like that done after 9/11 but do it now then you are a hypocrite.
A grandstanding fact-deriding hypocrite. How admirable.
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What did you want him to say, "here's a correction to your misinformation, also I care about kids"? Just because the thing he was correcting is not the most important part of the debate doesn't mean he shouldn't have done it.
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I think the only tricky thing is that most civilian AR lowers have a shelf/obstacle that prevents a selective fire trigger group from being installed.
But if you didn't have this, I'm not sure why an AR would be any more jam prone than a selective fire rifle from the factory.
Gimmicks like filing the disconnector down may produce "automatic fire" but are dangerous and illegal. When I fit a new precision trigger group, the instructions had a section about making sure you didn't relieve the disconnector too mu
YES! I strongly support this, but.. (Score:2)
Modern electronics is becoming impossible to repair, by its nature
Replacing a BGA chip is not feasible with normal electronic tech tools
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Fortunately, most failures are the battery, the screen, or a broken connector. Those can be easy fixes if they're allowed to be.
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what a stupid and partial argument.
so, when one cap blows inside (mostly it IS caps, from china, the fake ones that have electrolyte that lasts one year+one week) you want to throw the whole thing away because 'big chips' scare you?
get out of the way, adults are here and we want to do real work. you should go to your room and let the adults talk.
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I'm an embedded engineer and have replaced dozens of bga, dip, pga and abcxyz chips in the last 30 years (I started in my preteens).
You're a liar.
PGA (Programmable Gate Array) is NOT a PACKAGE-type; so you are just sticking terms you have seen together.
Plus, a REAL Embedded Engineer would CAPITALIZE the Acronyms for "Ball Grid Array" and "Dual In-Line" packages.
So, STFU and FOAD, and let the adults talk.
Full disclosure: I AM an embedded engineer.
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Modern electronics is becoming impossible to repair, by its nature
Replacing a BGA chip is not feasible with normal electronic tech tools
I've been saying this since this idiotic legislation has been being pushed by know-nothing legislators.
no BS rule need we can't give out full restore ima (Score:2)
no BS rule need as well.
I have head that We can't give out full restore images as some people may mess and write the image to there hdd and not a SD card. That is from someone who works at (withheld) that makes (withheld) they said also said that it will make the about 1GB or more updates (more like full images packaged in a way that device can read from usb and will work on any (withheld) even the wrong one for your (withheld) as you just need an basic boot to load the right code for your device. They said
when you can't buy an OEM part or need to distribu (Score:2)
when you can't buy an OEM part or need to buy from distributor? Or when some stuff is only sold to certificated techs (that may have to pay a lot / follow rules that drive up costs to be on the list)
In past apple sold parts for big $$ with an refund when the old part was sent back.
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Please, please, please make it illegal to manufacture or offer for sale any device into which a battery has been glued.
Single issue vote from me. e-waste ain't no laughin' matter, yo.
Well, then Apple is safe. They have used adhesive strips that are designed to "release" when stretched, like 3M "Command" Adhesive.
Tape is not glue, per se.
Sounds a great idea... (Score:2)
... there is so much legislation that needs to be repaired.
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bom, gerber files with full source code. And the photomask. To be fully serviceable. Also user manuals for any and all custom IC's.
That would be just great!
Ha!
You can't even get that kind of documentation from the chip manufacturers themselves for many SoCs, without signing an NDA and showing them what Project(s) you have in mind.