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Rejoice: Samsung's Next Flagship Smartphone Looks To Keep the Headphone Jack Alive (theverge.com) 193

Notorious smartphone leaker Evan Blass has leaked a couple press images of the Galaxy S9, giving us the first indication that it will still have a headphone jack. "The full information spill today is actually focused on a new Samsung DeX Pad, which appears to be an evolution of last year's DeX dock for the Galaxy S8," reports The Verge. From the report: Samsung, LG, and a couple of other companies like OnePlus have remained resolute in their inclusion of a headphone jack, but that was far from a certainty for the next Galaxy S iteration. This is a phone that will compete against the iPhone X, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, and more niche rivals like Google's Pixel 2: all of them surviving sans a headphone jack. So Samsung could have dumped the analog audio output, but it seems to have opted against it, and that's worthy of commendation. USB-C earphones are all still either bad or expensive -- or both -- and phones that retain compatibility with 3.5mm connectors remain profoundly useful to consumers that aren't yet convinced by Bluetooth.

Rejoice: Samsung's Next Flagship Smartphone Looks To Keep the Headphone Jack Alive

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  • Thanks Samsung (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 10, 2018 @11:39AM (#56100361)

    I'll be switching to you when I next upgrade.

    • I'll be switching to you when I next upgrade.

      Come on baby, light my fire.

    • by green1 ( 322787 )

      Why? to reward them for all the other horrible things they've done?

      They've removed almost every feature they used to include on their devices (IR transmitters, HDMI output, SD card slots, user replaceable batteries, phones that weren't so slippery you couldn't hold them without a case, widest screens in the market) and instead given a slightly faster phone than their previous offerings, but because they didn't remove one more feature you think they deserve your loyalty?

      Wow we've set the bar low these days!

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        I am holding off for the next phone that provides user replaceable battery and screen. Something that really extends the life of a phone.

  • ...will they fuck it up and have the headphone jack interpret minor electrical faults with the cable or plug as instructions to pause music, or even to search Google?
  • by Ayano ( 4882157 ) on Saturday February 10, 2018 @12:11PM (#56100471)
    Some people forget, that not everyone has a cushy job. This targets the market where bluetooth headphones/ear-buds are expensive to replace.

    Ear buds on a jack are 15-20 bones compared to 40-70 for a decent bluetooth headphones. There's also the matter of bluetooth interference for audiophiles where a line-jack will be preferred (pending environment).
    • by pubwvj ( 1045960 )

      Bluetooth headphones are down to $13 a pair for decent sound. At that price anyone who can afford a smartphone can afford bluetooth headphones.

      When Apple first nixed the jack I was a bit dubious but then I realized I hadn't been using thee jack for a while because my jack had died, or rather gotten very unreliable, so I had gotten bluetooth headphones. At this point all the headphones in our family are bluetooth. The cords and jacks were the major fail points so not having those two weaknesses has been nice

      • I'm not sure where you are finding them for $13 a pair, I stop by electronic departments all the time and I've not seen a comfortable looking model (that I can wear at night) for less than $80. At that price I'm not willing to buy it and risk losing or breaking it. $10 wired headphones on the other hand work for me, and since I wear them when I'm sleeping they tend to break all the time.
        • by pubwvj ( 1045960 )

          Amazon, of course. In fact since I looked a couple of weeks ago and found the $13 pair (over the ear) I see they now have a _LOT_ of even less expensive ones. See:

          https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=s... [amazon.com]

          Slightly more for over the ear:

          https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=s... [amazon.com]

          Pricing seems to fluctuate as I saw some of these for $13 a couple of weeks ago.

          For sleeping I got these:

          https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod... [amazon.com]

          which initially I didn't like due to a charging problem but that resolved through full discharge and recharge cycl

          • I won't order headphones off of Amazon. Too much hassle if I don't like them.
            • by pubwvj ( 1045960 )

              That's what I love about the reviews. I find that by reading the reviews I can learn more about the product than if I handled it in the store.

              • Yes but unfortunately reviewers often don't seem to consider the same things important that I do. For example, I want a headphone that I *cannot feel* when I put it in my ear and lie on my side to go to sleep. A reviewer may say 'they are comfortable' but no one is going to say exactly 'how' comfortable. Also, my ears are a different size and shape than anyone else's so there is no telling whether they will fall out or not unless I get a sport pair that go around the back of the ear, but again I may be a
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I have Bluetooth headphones but they are annoying for travel. Yet another battery to charge, different connector to my phone (USB micro vs. C), can't use them on some airlines that don't allow any wireless stuff and even when allowed the 2.4ghz spectrum is often saturated inside the plane... And Bluetooth drains your phone battery much faster too.

        I put up with then because I use the headphone socket for a Pluggy Lock to hold a strap, so I don't drop the phone.

        To me removing the headphone jack is just anothe

    • My mono Bluetooth headset gets about 6 hours (claims 7). Most stereo ones I've seen are 4 or 5. I don't mind plugging my phone into a power brick but I've yet to see a headset that looks wearable plugged into one.
    • by Greyfox ( 87712 )
      If you can't afford bluetooth headphones, you probably can't afford a $1000 phone either.
    • I use apps that turn off my wifi when the phone is not connected to my home and work cell towers. But that privacy effort is negated if I am suddenly expected to send out another wireless signal just to listen to music. This is why Apple's claim to champion privacy seemed a little two-faced to me when they went in this direction.
    • by sad_ ( 7868 )

      the samsung high end phones, like this S9 will be, are also too expensive for most people.

  • We already have TRRS 2.5mm connectors why not start using those on phones? 1mm saved right there and the adaptors are cheap as. Not as space saving as no connector at all but a reasonable compromise.

    • If you're going to do that, just use the supplied Lighting to 3 mm adapter.

      • by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 ) on Saturday February 10, 2018 @01:01PM (#56100675)
        Because adapters are stupid and clunky in general, and the lighning adapter on my wife's iphone in particular doesn't work properly half the time.

        Now I ask you, why the hell would I need to waste my time going to the store and spending money on a replacement, which may or may not actually fix the issue, when I can buy a phone with a headphone jack and not have to worry about that particular nuisance?
      • by trabby ( 4123953 )

        What I meant was use a 2.5mm connector and people get their own 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor cheaply.

        2.5mm has no patents/royalties to worry about and is commonly used for corded headsets and analogue video adaptors

        There is no 3mm connector.

        https://www.google.com.au/sear... [google.com.au]

        One way or another phone manufacturers are obsessed with making phones thinner, hence the compromise idea.

  • I'm on the S7 and normally only upgrade when I fell there is a real reason to do so (S3 was my previous one). If the S9 has a jack, then I will make it a point to get one outside of my normal update interval. It's the only meaningful way to show a company that having a jack is a feature that really matters.
    • It's also a form of self-defense in case they blow the audio (it's not just "headphone") jack off with the s10; after all, Samsung often does follow Apple into the valley of stupid: ridiculous and inconvenient levels of thin, non-replaceable batteries, flat icons, dropped IR, etc.

      I'm planning the same move: s7 to s9 if there's a proper jack and there isn't some kind of other major screwup.

  • Got one today. Came with a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter and a USB-C to ordinary USB adapter for connecting sticks in the box. Not seeing what the problem is here ?
  • by brunes69 ( 86786 ) <slashdotNO@SPAMkeirstead.org> on Saturday February 10, 2018 @05:42PM (#56101603) Homepage

    It has nothing to do with being "convinced". There are tons of situations where bluetooth headphones are simply a non-option - for one, on many airplanes worldwide, Bluetooth headphones are still banned and likely will be for years and years. Secondly, if you're on an 7 or 8 hour flight and want to listen to continuous music, good luck doing that on your bluetooth earbuds.

    USB-C and Lightning earphones don't make this much easier because these situations usually cause you to want your phone to be plugged in, which means silly hubs/dongles if you want to change your phone and listen to music at once.

    Furthermore, if you happen to decide to want to use the in-flight entertainment - GOOD LUCK if you don't have wired headphones with a 1/8 jack! So what now - looks like you need to bring more dongles!

    I swear the people who cooked up these ideas have seemingly never flown on a plane in their lives.

    • My BT over ear headphones (cheap-midrange MPOWs that work pretty well and are rather comfy) also have an analog mode, just like a most of the most expensive over the ear headphones, which is basically a jack that a provided 1/8"1/8" mini jack cable can plug into and drive them just like normal cans. Used them on my last flight for just that! That said, a lot of airlines are removing in flight entertainment from the seats and just providing in flight streaming from a on-plane server to the wifi (the streami
    • for one, on many airplanes worldwide, Bluetooth headphones are still banned and likely will be for years and years.

      As someone who flies about every 3 weeks and loops the globe several times a year at various countries I have *NEVER* been told I can't use my Bluetooth headphones. Not in America, not anywhere else. I have once been asked to take them off only to pay attention to the safety video. The brand I have are sold at every airport in the world, even the shit ones. They are sold as the perfect device to make your flight quieter and when the noise cancelling is on, so is the bluetooth. Mind you they do have a headph

      • Well you obviously never fly on smaller regional carriers inside or outside the US.

        If your plane is not certified for on board wifi, it's not certified for Bluetooth. Full stop. Many regional airlines will ask you to remove your Bluetooth headphones.

        • Well you obviously never fly on smaller regional carriers inside or outside the US.

          If your plane is not certified for on board wifi, it's not certified for Bluetooth. Full stop. Many regional airlines will ask you to remove your Bluetooth headphones.

          I fly on regionals. And I haven't been asked to turn off bluetooth devices since 2013, when the FAA rules changed.

          It's somewhat common to be asked to remove headphones of any type during the safety briefing, but that's it.

        • Well you obviously never fly on smaller regional carriers inside or outside the US.

          Well you clearly have no idea. My work takes me from anything from a Luxurious business class Emirates intercontinental, to shitty economy class Delta / United international flights, through low cost carriers in the USA and Europe at crappy airports, all the way down to those shitty flights that even the cheap airlines outsource to local contract agencies on loud and nasty propeller planes.

          I've flown aircrafts of every size and every brand on every continent except Antarctica and have worn bluetooth headpho

  • Honestly, I'm a Samsung fan but good god are they copying sheep. I'm very very surprised they didn't do what everyone else is and pull it, because it's the new cool thing!!!! (groan)

    I am still extremely disappointed about the mandatory curved displays on all models, quite disappointed about the lack of a home button.

    Sadly, no sale. Curved displays can't have protectors put on them properly, they break easier, they look bad.
    No.

    Still, good move on the headphone jack.

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