Intel Core i9 Mobile And 9th Gen Coffee Lake Processors Detailed In AIDA64 Update (hothardware.com) 49
Paul Lilly, writing for HotHardware: Looking at the release notes for the latest AIDA64 system diagnostics and benchmarking utility, there are several unannounced Intel processors on tap, including a mobile Core i9 processor and what appears to be a Coffee Lake refresh, due out sometime in 2018. Starting with mobile, it looks like Intel will be making an aggressive play in the laptop space with several new laptop chips, including at least one Core i9 processor with an unlocked multiplier. That is the Core i9-8950HK, a 6-core CPU with Hyper Threading support, 12MB of L3 cache, and a 45W TDP. Sitting below that are a handful of other mobile products, all based on Intel's Coffee Lake-H architecture. Two of them are Core i7 parts -- Core i7-8850H and Core i7-8750H, both of which are 6-core/12-thread processors with 12MB of L3 cache and a 45W TDP, same as the Core i9-8950H, but at presumably different clockspeeds and without an unlocked multiplier. The other two are the Core i5-8400H (6-core/6-thread, 9MB L3 cache, 45W TDP) and Core i3-8300H (4-core/4-thread, 8MB L3 cache, 45W TDP).
management engine? (Score:3)
will they run a management engine having operating system intended for student training and a web server? if no we don't want it, the owner of facebook says privacy is bad
Re:management engine? (Score:5, Insightful)
ME was my first thought as well - what might they have changed in the ME(Management Engine)? Now that people have figured out how to disable this Orwellian mess - I suppose they will 'fix' it..
When I first heard of 'secure boot' I figured it would be the opposite of the name - and sure enough it was.
Having the ability to connect to the Internet, write to one's system drive - based on closed code - the exact recipe to create exploits.. is rather insane.
I suspect they were paid for a backdoor and had no choice but to do it.
Re: management engine? (Score:2)
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No, pancake.
Yes, I am hungry. Why do you ask?
Finally. (Score:2)
Enough cores to be able to dedicate a couple to just serve ads fulltime.
Will Intel at last have a chipset 16Gb LP RAM (Score:3)
I've been waiting to replace my laptop for years but given that Intel hasn't released a PC with more than 16 Gb of Low Power RAM one has up to now had the choice of normal RAM or being limited to 16 Gb. Has the rare beast been announced at last?
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Full-size laptops like that run DDR4 or DDR3L memory, which typically allow you to install SO-DIMMs up to 16GB per slot, with 1, 2 or 4 slots in a machine.
Ultrabooks that use LP-DDR3 are limited to at most 16GB soldered-down memory. The question to ask is whether Coffee Lake supports LP-DDR4, which would likely increase that to 32GB for ultrabooks, matching what DDR4 based ones can do.
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Re:Will Intel at last have a chipset 16Gb LP RAM (Score:5, Insightful)
running Windows in a VM for certain corporate software while doing others things in the main OS.
Get a real job, ya fucking hippie, and you might find you need more than your 8GB of gamer RAM.
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running Windows in a VM for certain corporate software while doing others things in the main OS.
Get a real job, ya fucking hippie, and you might find you need more than your 8GB of gamer RAM.
Yes, to what iggymanz said. I'm semi-retired and I do almost everything in VMs at home. Setting up a simulation of the corporate environment for something as simple as testing scripts requires running multiple VM's simultaneously. And I need a lot of ram to run these without hitting the paging wall. 16GB just isn't enough anymore.
And yet I seem to run just fine (admittedly in 24GB) with generally a sub 16GB footprint, and I run multiple VMs and IDEs, along with server instances and a whole slew of test frameworks, etc. I'm sorry, but if you're hitting a paging wall at 16GB for 99% of what's needed as even a developer's machine, you're doing it wrong, or you should stop using Chrome and leaving 100+ web pages open.
Re: Will Intel at last have a chipset 16Gb LP RAM (Score:1)
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As a game developer, it's easy to get over 16 GB used. Lots of large assets to work with. Lots of tools open at once - editors, Visual Studio, Photoshop, etc. Multiplatform developers often have multiple workspaces going at once to test things on different platforms, with an instance per platform of many tools. I often to sit around 20 GB used, peaking around 25 GB. I expect my memory usage to go up when I move to Coffee Lake with the extra cores - more build processes running simultaneously.
I can work with
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I often need to model network security configurations, not just workstations. At present, a 2 layer firewall setup with management and a load balancer so I need: 1 FortiGate VM + 1 FortiAnalyzer VM + 1 Checkpoint VM + 1 Windows VM (Smart*) + 1 F5 VM + 3 Linux VMs.
16Gb ain't enough. 32 is, barely.
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Please point out where I made any claim that my needs are congruent with that "99% of developers"?
Are my needs more demanding than most developers need? Yes.
Can I perform them on a single multi-CPU platform? Most certainly as at present it all runs fine on a NUC accessed from my laptop..
Is that a reason for implying that I should not aspire to doing it all on my laptop as I do when my needs are not quite so demanding? No.
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IOW, for the special cornflakes amongst us yes, I freely admit larger systems are necessary. The statement I responded to that for most things you don't need that much still stands, at least if you're not in the world of MS where even web page developers should have multi-TB RAM systems (btw, before you take that seriously, it's hyperbole merely indicating that MS systems are n
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You’re reading your own environmental bias in attempting to see implications where there are none.
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You’re reading your own environmental bias in attempting to see implications where there are none.
Perhaps there are implications and you're just not seeing them?
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Because everything _must_ be seen from your point of view?!? We are _all_ software developers?!? We _cannot_ be using our computers differently than you do?!?
Were you an only child perchance?
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That's a set of funny comments. Thanks.
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For a mighty small value of "it".
I reserve the first 16 GB just to make my ZFS file system fat and happy. Because I like my jails and sanity snapshots. And then there's the 2 GB per Eclipse instance, and I've been known to have four instances open on different desktops at the same time. And we're not counting my local Jenkins server yet ...
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ZFS, yes, you can seriously chew up resources with that one, for good reason though. Would I want it on my dev box in that capacity? I prefer a lean dev box that's easily replicated. apparently different strokes.
As for the century mark - it's only in relation to Chrome that there's issues. I have my browsers tuned to minimize excess crap, so hitting 100 open pages uses quite a bit less memory and CPU than they would otherwise. Not using Chrome is #1. Killing prefetch is the #2 CPU/RAM saver, uBlock #3, a f
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For my job I currently need: A FortiGate VM, A FortiAnalyzer VM. A Checkpoint VM. A windows VM for the Smart* tools. An F5 VM. A Windows AD to authenticate everything to and a couple client Linux VMs.
It'd be great be able to run them all on my laptop. I have the room and the CPU, it's the RAM that limits me but I don't want to sacrifice battery lifetime when my needs aren't so extravagant nor move back to boat anchors.
The burning question: (Score:2)
But does it run Linux... to run Linux? This Linux on MINIX garbage isn't cutting it for me! ;)
9th Generation (Score:2)
None of those model number indicate 9th generation "Core" architecture products. The first digit being an 8 indicates it's an 8th generation "Core" architecture product.
Chip makers do odd things when they get to 10, and Intel can blue the lines of each "generation" however they please, but nothing here indicates "9th generation".
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The bottom of TFA has it (just model numbers):
This is where things really start to get interesting. Having abandoned the tick-tock release cadence that guided Intel for such a long time and adopted a process-architecture-optimization scheme, it is a bit more difficult to predict what the company has in store. Looking at AIDA64's release notes, we see the following 9th Generation Core processors listed:
Intel Core i3-9000
Intel Core i3-9000T
Intel Core i3-9100
Intel Core i3-9300
Intel Core i3-9300T
Intel Core i5-9400
Intel Core i5-9400T
Intel Core i5-9500
Intel Core i5-9600
Intel Core i5-9600K
Considering that Intel is a little further off from mass producing its 10-nanometer Cannon Lake processors for the consumer sector, our best guess is that these will be a refresh of its Coffee Lake architecture. That leaves the field wide open in terms of cores, threads, clockspeeds, L3 cache, and TDPs, with no way to fill in the blanks unless taking some wild guesses. About the only thing we know for sure is the Core i5-9500K part will have an unlocked multiplier, as designated by the "K" in the model name.
Coffee Lake? (Score:2)
Finally, a really good name for a new processor.
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Not as good as crunchy frog.
I think they're saving that name for a hard drive.
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AMD's Ryzen Mobile chips are now available in laptops/notebooks and all-in-ones. Performance is good, and power consumption/performance-per-watt is substantially better:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/... [notebookcheck.net]