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Intel's 8th-Gen 'Coffee Lake' Core CPUs Will Be Revealed During the Great American Eclipse (pcworld.com) 98

Brad Chacos, writing for PCWorld: Intel's response to AMD's disruptive Ryzen processors is soon to get its time in the sun. Well, sort of. On Tuesday, Intel announced plans to livestream the launch of its 8th-generation "Coffee Lake" processors on August 21 -- the same day that the great American solar eclipse casts its shadow across the United States. Intel's throwing shade. Eighth-gen Coffee Lake chips will be built using a revised version of Intel's 14nm process technology for an unprecedented fourth time, following in the footsteps of Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake architectures. You'll probably also need a new motherboard to use them. But most notably, Intel claims 8th-gen Core chips will be up to 30 percent faster than today's Kaby Lake processors in some applications. Intel chips haven't seen a performance leap like that in years. Beyond that, little is officially known about Coffee Lake, though the churning internet rumor mill thinks that Intel will up the core counts this time around to combat the threat of Ryzen.

Intel's 8th-Gen 'Coffee Lake' Core CPUs Will Be Revealed During the Great American Eclipse

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  • by creimer ( 824291 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:37PM (#54968059) Homepage
    This CPU will deliver phenomenal performance but only during solar eclipses.
  • Code Name (Score:5, Funny)

    by raftpeople ( 844215 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:38PM (#54968063)
    "Coffee Lake" barely beat out "Man Bear Pig"
  • More Intel BS (Score:5, Interesting)

    by H3lldr0p ( 40304 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:41PM (#54968085) Homepage

    Given that just yesterday, Intel announced a product release for September 25th isn't it a little early to talk about what comes after? We haven't had the chance to see how their current compares to AMD's offering which isn't due until later this month.

    Guess Intel is afraid of something. Maybe AMD has given them some much needed competition.

  • by Rockoon ( 1252108 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:43PM (#54968111)

    Eighth-gen Coffee Lake chips will be built using a revised version of Intel's 14nm process technology for an unprecedented fourth time

    Intel is switching to complete 14nm FinFET here. The reason is that some of the competing fabs that stayed with FinFET are now manufacturing 10nm FinFET while Intel spent 3 years now trying to make 10nm Tri-Gates economical and have failed miserably. The Tri-Gate lithography is just too expensive: Too many steps, and the yields too poor.

    When Intel beat the world to 14nm it didnt matter so much that Tri-Gate's were not as economical as FinFET because Intel beat the world there by a big margin and didnt have to compete. Now they not only have to complete against 14nm FinFET but also 10nm FinFET and it wont be long until 7nm FinFET is in production by at least the companies that skipped 10nm on purpose (they are not the same fab companies as the ones producing 10nm FinFET's today)

    Companies that beat Intel to 10nm (so far):

    Samsung, TSMC

    Companies that absolutely will beat Intel to 7nm:

    Global Foundries, TSMC, Samsung. I predict that this is the order that it will happen in. GloFlo skipped 10nm on purpose to be the first to 7nm.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Intel manufacturers FinFETs, they don't call it "Tri Gate" anymore, and haven't for a while. Also it's well known that process nodes are meaningless these days, and transistor and metal densities are much higher on Intel processes for the same node name. If you really want to talk about lithography costs, you should look up LELE/LELELE vs. SADP/SAQP (the latter, which Intel uses, is cheaper).

      TSMC had a delayed start to their 10 nm node, in a similar fashion as Intel did with their 14 nm. You can sure bet th

    • 10nm != 10nm (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Just to clarify, 10nm refers to the "process" and not the actual pitch of any of the resulting elements. Each fab implements it differently which results in different densities for the same "process". For example, the TSMC 10nm process has a gate pitch of 66nm and and interconnect of 44nm while Samsung's 68/51 respectively... the end result being that TSMC 10nm chips are denser than Samsung. Intel's is supposed to be 54/36 which is actually the same pitch as Samsung's proposed 8nm process and slightly sm

  • During all the hype about Ryzen I kept telling people that I imagine Intel has something sitting on the shelf they'll bring out now. They just didn't have a reason to until challenged.

    Surely people didn't think their designers were just sitting on their hands while they were milking the the current lines?

    Good to see some competition heating up again though..

    • Surely people didn't think their designers were just sitting on their hands while they were milking the the current lines?

      I'll take that bet.
      After all, I've got Nokia, Blackberry, 3dfx, Voodoo, Via to back me up... (to name a few)

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        I'll take that bet.
        After all, I've got Nokia, Blackberry, 3dfx, Voodoo, Via to back me up... (to name a few)

        Except those companies weren't dependent on their competitor. Intel needs AMD for several reasons.

        First, AMD is a credible competitor. You may be aware that Intel was under investigation for monopolistic practices that hurt AMD, so Intel's already got a taste of government regulation, You can bet killing AMD is not on Intel's radar - if nothing else, it keeps governments away from Intel. Having AMD we

        • by JustNiz ( 692889 )

          >> First, AMD is a credible competitor.

          Not in my opinion.They've clearly been the ghetto option for decades.
          If budget isn't as much of an issue as reliability then Intel has always been a better buy.

    • Don't expect much, it's a rework on the same process. Intel has literally stalled out making it to 10nm, they've now redesigned the same cpu on the same process 4 times. The entire Intel advantage of being several process steps ahead of everyone else has evaporated over the course of the last 2 years. Coffee lake will likely be no faster than the generation before it or the 2 more before that.

      They will claim it's 30% faster because it has some new instruction that allows it to perform a single task that muc

      • Actually, the 30% increase is on one particular benchmark when going from a two-core mobile part to the four-core part that sits at the same place in the Coffee Lake lineup. It sounds more like a power efficiency gain than a real throughput gain.

  • by XxtraLarGe ( 551297 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:44PM (#54968121) Journal

    Intel's 8th-Gen 'Coffee Lake' Core CPUs Will Be Revealed During the Great American Eclipse

    Quick! While nobody's looking!

  • by TimothyHollins ( 4720957 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:54PM (#54968207)

    Has there ever been a new generation where the promised increase wasn't "up to 30%" ? Because I've never heard any other number used.

    Also, am I the only one that finds Intel a wee bit histrionic this last month or so? They've been throwing everything they can (including the chairs) at the wall, but nothing seems to stick so far.

    • Usually 30% is approximately the decreased distance between transistors with a node size transition.

      The future for Intel will eventually be: 14nm to 10nm, then 10nm to 7nm, ... see the 30%'s?

      But in this case it is almost certainly just due to an increased core count (making the chips bigger in the process) ..
  • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Tuesday August 08, 2017 @03:56PM (#54968227)

    There's part of me that wonders whether Intel knows its offering is going to be underwhelming, and is therefore choosing to release it on a day when a lot of tech/science types will be somewhat distracted.

    • Given all the data in the summary, it sounds like they've already announced it. What is left to reveal, the non-code name? I'll bet it will be i7, i5, etc......
  • Will there be a decaf version?

  • ... because their claims can't stand the light of day.

  • I ask because I can't think of any other reason why you'd intentionally introduce a product at a moment when it's guaranteed that almost nobody will be paying attention.

  • And I'm taking vacation days to go down to the Kentucky/Illinois border to photograph the eclipse.
  • New socket but no added pci-e or faster DMI?

    Will Coffee Lake-X also be 2 ram channels and only 16 pci-e as well?

  • "It was a dark day when Coffee Lake entered the world."

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