China Forces Muslim Minority To Install Spyware On Their Phones (bleepingcomputer.com) 389
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bleeping Computer: Chinese authorities in the province of Xinjiang are forcing locals of the Uyghur Muslim minority to install an app on their phones that will allow the government to scan their device for "terrorist propaganda," local media reports. In reality, the app creates MD5 hashes for the user's files and matches them against a database of known terrorist content. The app also makes copies of the user's Weibo and WeChat databases and uploads it to a government server, along with the user's IMEI, IMSI, and WiFi login information. The app is called Jingwang (Citizen Safety) and was developed by police forces from Urumqi, Xinjiang's capital. Authorities launched the app in April, and also included the ability to report suspicious activity to the police. At the start of July, Xinjiang officials started sending WeChat messages in Uyghur and Chinese to locals, asking them to install the app or face detainment of up to 10 days. Police have also stopped people on the street to check if they installed the app. Several were detained for refusing to install it. Locals are now sharing the locations of checkpoints online, so others can avoid getting arrested.
Jihad (Score:2, Informative)
Is a duty of all Muslims. It is written in the Qur'an.
Praise be to Allah.
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Well, in this case jihad is certainly justified. I hope resistance is not futile.
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But only certain branches [wikipedia.org] (mustly Saudi) Muslims believe that Jihad should be violent. Why do we support Saudi again? Why do we allow Saudi funding of mosques abroad?
Re: Jihad (Score:2, Insightful)
"Why do we support Saudi again?"
Because they have (had) all the oil. As a result, (now) they have all the money. What they believe is irrelevant, except as a means of control.
And the same goes for you... what you believe is used to manufacture your consent. Therefore, you say "Why do we support Saudi again?" which is a distraction from the real questions (why oil, who makes those decisions really, how to we stop them doing this...)
Saudi Arabia (Score:3)
I've argued against the Saudis before, even pretty recently. But, they're at least ideologically opposed to the Islamic State. But I've also read that one of bin Laden's goals was to drive this precise wedge between Saudi Arabia and the US, so this all becomes muddled very quickly. That, and our attempts at regime change have not been wildly successful. Most Americans know Iran as "some Muslim country that hates us," and don't seem to realize that the reason for that is that we overthrew their democraticall
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Perhaps you should look into where it came from and how it came to be so well armed and well funded. After you've done so you may come to a very different conclusion.
IMHO Trump's largest foreign policy mistake is to take the Saudi side (the guys that wouldn't let us have a base) against Qatar (our best allies in the middle east - the ones who actually let us have a base in their country). Qatar is giving us plenty of "material support" agains
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At this point I feel like I no longer have a good handle on this subject. It seems fairly complex. I'd definitely appreciate any information that you had to hand. There seems to be a lot of propaganda flying in every direction. I'd really like to get a good handle on what [a] the average Muslim in {S.A., Iran, Indonesia} thinks about ISIS, on what [b] the clerical opinion is about ISIS in those countries, and definitely any reliable accounts of money movements to ISIS, Al Qaeda, and other extremist Salafist
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Most definitely not. Kind of the exact opposite since it's spreading the views of a faction of the Saudis. It's a bit of a proxy war between the Saudis and Iran.
I think you and everyone else interested needs a book instead of a few small web articles since it's been snowballing for many years. There are many. The ones I would have recommended are a bit dated (a
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Most definitely not. Kind of the exact opposite since it's spreading the views of a faction of the Saudis.
No, the House of Saud is not interested in giving up Mecca and Medina, and especially not to some group that thinks they're going to be the next caliphate.
You're certainly inviting flaming by mentioning ESR to me, especially in connection to politics. I'll skip the anti-Zionist screeds if it's the same to you. I have read a number of books on the history of Islam and the region. I could certainly use more, but I'd rather have more current information about trends.
We don't have allies in the region, just mor
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Criticism of a politician who later ended up on trial for corruption was the "anti-Zionist screed" in that case :( Hence not mentioning Fisk's excellent book that barely mentions Israel at all - there are plenty of others.
You are treating it as monolithic and not the factional medieval basket case that it is. They did most of the setting up of Daash and appear to still be funneling money to them, as are people in power in Turkey.
Syrian civil war (Score:3)
Perhaps you should look into where it came from and how it came to be so well armed and well funded. After you've done so you may come to a very different conclusion. IMHO Trump's largest foreign policy mistake is to take the Saudi side (the guys that wouldn't let us have a base) against Qatar (our best allies in the middle east - the ones who actually let us have a base in their country). Qatar is giving us plenty of "material support" against I.S. while the Saudis seems to still be feeding the other side.
Saudi Arabia is not one of the former funders of the Islamic State. They have their own factions that they back - the Islamic Front [wikipedia.org], which was a coalition of 7 Islamic parties from various parts of Syria. It is opposed to ISIS, the Baathist regime as well as the US backed Free Syrian Army. Problem is that aside from the Kurdish SDF/Rojava, all those factions are Sunni Jihadist groups, while the Baathists are Alawites allied to Hizbullah & Iran.
In addition to that, the Saudis have been too nose de
same Saudis? (Score:3)
But only certain branches [wikipedia.org] (mustly Saudi) Muslims believe that Jihad should be violent. Why do we support Saudi again? Why do we allow Saudi funding of mosques abroad?
Actually, no. There are no versions of Islam that prohibit violent jihad, since Mohammed himself clearly stated that violent jihad is the highest form of service to allah.
I generally agree w/ most criticisms of Saudi Arabia, but since President Trump's visit, they have been shifting their policies, and taking a hard line not against moderate Muslims or anti-Muslims, but against Jihadists. You mentioned Wahabism: the only other Wahabi country in the world is Qatar, which has been the focus of criticism
Saudi Arabia (Score:3)
Saudi Arabia is a command economy, and every Arab citizen (one has to be Muslim to be a citizen of that country) is a welfare recipient from the government. In other words, that country is the closest thing to a Communist country that one can imagine in terms of government owning all property and paying the citizens. The slaves you describe are the expatriate labor from various countries, be it poorer Arab & Muslim countries, such as Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, or from other non-Muslim countries
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Right, so it's not socialism in that sense i.e. worker ownership of everything. It's more akin to government controlling and distributing everything to ensure everybody is prosperous, not that everybody is equal. A workable solution when they had an essential resource that the rest of the world had to have, and when oil used to be anything above $30 a barrel. But today, since alternative energy has emerged and grown to unprecedented levels, and alternate sources of oil like fracking in the US has emerged
Re:Jihad (Score:4, Informative)
While apparently a true statement (I'm not Muslim), it is grossly misleading:
Until I actually googled this, I was ignorant on what jihad actually meant; "striving and working hard for something."
http://www.islamportal.net/for... [islamportal.net]
https://www.quora.com/Is-jihad... [quora.com]
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Everyone has their dark ages.. apparently they're going through theirs with their own book burnings and heretic burnings. But yes, at one time they were the center of technology, astronomy, and science. Its amazing what a little fear of the unknown can do to a mass of people, especially when it's the spiritual leaders succumb to it.
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A thousand years ago, Christians were busy burning heretics while Arab physicians under the Fatamids were inventing what we now call "surgery".
There's plenty more, if you care to do a little reading.
It took about a thousand years for the followers of a man who admonished one of his followers for striking at one of the people who came to take the leader away to be tortured to death to have officially sanctioned warfare with special rewards in the afterlife guaranteed to those who died for the cause(I believe crusaders were promised a place in heaven if they died for the cause), but after a few hundred years of intermittent fighting, it was given up as not being appropriate, even though it was primarily
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1. 1000 years ago Christians were not burning heretics. This "burning" took place almost exclusively during the Spanish Inquisition. Starting in the 1470s and lasting in its most brutal way for 100+ years. Over that period deaths were in the 3-5,000 range.
2. Surgery was around in Mesopotamia, Ancient Egypt, China, and India. We have numerous examples of skulls that were drilled to in order to relieve internal pressure (and many survived surgery!). The reason surgery did not exist until the late 1
multiple & burner phones, multiple partitions (Score:3)
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At the end of the day, the easiest thing to do is have more than one phone. One at home and one for wandering about. One phone is safe and the other phone is a mobile alibi. The more incompetent authorities rely on the alibi phone, the more you can use it to create the digital record of a model citizen. Much the same as with social network, why one identity on a social network, one for the public, perfect employee and one for private. Keep in mind the value of a alibi phone of having it and maintaining it,
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Good luck doing that in a country where *all* mobile phones and their numbers are quickly and easily traceable by the authorities.
Re:multiple & burner phones, multiple partitio (Score:5, Insightful)
You've hit the nail on the head. This actually makes the position of the extremists arguably easier. Now you don't have to second guess whether or not your phone is being monitored, you can count on it and work around it. And the solution doesn't have to be fancy or technical: you just setup a set of code word/phrases via snail mail using everyday common phrases, and instead of sending "proceed with the next stage of the operation", you send "pick up milk and rice from the store".
Which is to say: the point of eavesdropping on potentially dangerous individuals is negated by the idiocy of asking these people to assist you in their own eavesdropping by installing the required software.
But the Chinese are not dumb enough to not realize this, which means the real cause of this is something else entirely: first it's a PR move to appease the populace by appearing to do 'something' to react to the threat, but more importantly this gives the authorities a convenient reason to detain anyone for 10 days. I mean, all they have to do is 'inspect' the phone and remove the app and BAM the guy's away for 10 days while you go through and mic his apartment and car, and if need be plant some evidence so that he can be jailed for longer. Or they can just change the log files they have from the apps to include something suspicious and arrest anyone on terrorism charges on that grounds. It's not like the chain of evidence in the Chinese system is reliable: they control the log and the phones, so that means you provably said what they claim you said, after all that's what the records show.
So in the end this is just a way of making sure they have the ability to jail anyone at any time for any reason, which they've had all along, but usually it's been a slightly longer process, this seems to be just a step to make it easier and faster.
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You're assuming everybody starts out like some super-secret agent. If you're trying to recruit people to join your cause, you need feelers out there to find possible sympathizers. Even if you do the real talking offline, you've probably been in contact via phone or chat before that if nothing else then just to agree where and when to meet. It's metadata about who you have talked to. You make people afraid to say the wrong things. You make people afraid to agree with those who say it. You make the process sl
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Do you really think Chinese censors are not aware of such things?
Report (Score:5, Informative)
I'm living in this city. And yeah, they forced me to install their crazy china app. I deleted all my critical information such as photos from the phone before handed to the police.
This app is constantly sending my phone data to CN servers. I could filter them out using my VPN, but some of my friends are already caught by police for attemting "app decompile".
So I changed my phone. Install 2 OS on one phone.
1 is infected by china, and the other 1 is safe.
This system works like Veracrypt's Hidden OS. I made this for myself about 4 years ago.
You can switch OS1 and OS2 using smartphone's hardware button. I don't write details because I don't want chinese to fuck my phone.
I've already asked by the police to show me the app. When my phone was moved suddenly, it automatically switched to OS1.
Only I can use OS2.
Technology is not for a noob. Fight against them, digitally.
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I can't give you my phone model specifically because information could be used to target me.
Jailbreak or non-jailbreak, it's free. My device work. It's a very small device.
TOOP is not an app. It's a small device with switch.
You have to open the smartphone and replace the part.
(Hardware key)+(some other actions)+(surrounding condition)=Switch_OS_Trigger
I'm a repairman. My work is extremely clean and I'm proud of it. Nobody notice the phone is rigged or not.
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Haha. Try me :) When I install my device on my friends phone, I always tell this lesson: "Don't use OS2 in public area.".
And if I got something shit like you, my other system will distribute TOOP code into wild automatically. and guy like you will take a look at it.
Actually, I already saved my codes to random places. These are encrypted so nobody can look at it until my system yell a key and location.
I won't get caught. If I lose, you will get my work, for open source. :)
What if you don't have a cell phone? (Score:2)
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Get one!!!
Sincerely,
The Gubmint
MD5?! (Score:3)
MD5 has collisions like a mofo. Besides, this sure sounds like a universal, "we don't like this person and therefore they're a terrorist" type of situation. I would be interested in knowing just what the application is capable of because I get the feeling they can remotely upload/delete whatever they want to/from your phone.
Seems like a legit reason to not have a smartphone.
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MD5 has collisions like a mofo. Besides, this sure sounds like a universal, "we don't like this person and therefore they're a terrorist" type of situation.
The ethnic conflict in China is not exactly the same as the terrorist situation we have here in the US. Almost 200 people died [wikipedia.org] as a result of riots by the Uyghur minority. There's also more recent and typical terrorist attacks such as this [wikipedia.org] and this [wikipedia.org], which also fans the flames. I can see why they're suspicious of muslims in general.
Seems like a legit reason to not have a smartphone.
Or you can side-load a cracked version that doesn't actually report anything, though I highly doubt terrorists are smart enough to actually do that. Plus, I'm pretty sure pirating
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Your concern about being framed is sweet, but naive. It's communist china. Being a person "we [the government] don't like" is a crime, often a capital one. It's easier to just announce they found evidence while making someone disappear and not expounding on it
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The collision attack isn't possible unless you are able to submit "bad" files to their system. You can't do that without getting in trouble for contraband.
How's that most favored status working out? (Score:2)
And yeah, it does kinda piss me off that my country throws human rights out the window for cheap(ish) consumer goods. Especially when Motorola proved they could sell phones made in the US without slave labor profitably, just not _as_ profitably.... Meanwhile the Saudi's are getting ready to execute another batch of protestors. Crap.
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With the dynamic duo of Trump and Tillerson, who knows? Trump is unlikely to know or care. because his name would not be associated with any of
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I agree 100%. No human rights abuses were ever ignored under the Obama administration.
None.
Not one.
Because he wasn't Trump.
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Your butt-hurt does not invalidate the facts or reasoning presented by Required Snark.
well yes, do it here too ! (Score:2)
Not just Muslims but all terrorists and troublemakers. College students and professors, hippies, hackers, union members, women, gays and anyone with an IQ above 70.
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What's the icon look like? (Score:2)
Is it a yellow six-pointed star? [wikipedia.org]
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I don't see any "moderate" Muslims doing anything about the rest of the crazy motherfuckers.
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Ah, I see -- You mean just like how "moderate" Jews denounce what their extremists do? Funny, I'd considered throwing gobs of ongoing subisidies at 'em so they can "settle" somewhere else to be a sign of tacit approval.
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So can you name all those Jewish suicide bombers? Oh wait...
Irresistable force meets immovable object (Score:2)
Islam is not just a religion, it is a legal structure, where atheism is punishable by death. Communism is incompatible with any faith. Now we see the two meet. There will be no winners here.
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This thread (Score:2)
Will likely be one where everyone discusses their differences in a sane a rational manner and everyone will go their own way the wiser for it. I can't wait to see how enlightened we all will be at the end of it.
Sudden increase in dissidents (Score:2)
Suddenly the number of dissidents jumped. Couldn't be anything with a newly missed iff bunch of people now feeling whatever freedoms they had squashed even further? Even the most innocent can lash back out they feel they are being treated unfairly or like caged animals. .
Minority (Score:2)
What's a Smartphone? I need App? Oh! Apple! I do know what an apple is. I have one right here.
/no offense
IN the USA (Score:2)
apple and google need to ban this app! (Score:2)
apple and google need to ban this app!
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Re:Good (Score:5, Insightful)
Erm... you should know that the Uighurs are not foreigners to the land but natives.
They have been Muslims for centuries and before the formation of the PRC were semi autonomous.
However they are seen as a threat as they are not part of the Han ethnic group that the current chinese government comes from.
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However they are seen as a threat as they are not part of the Han ethnic group that the current chinese government comes from.
The larger problem is that even the Han arent safe. It's not a racism issue, its a rights issue. China is still very much totalitarian.
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The larger problem is that even the Han arent safe. It's not a racism issue, its a rights issue.
Bullcrap. It is racism, and that is very much the "larger problem". Most of the racism doesn't even come from the government. It comes from the Han immigrants to Xinjiang. But in disputes between the Han and Uyghurs, the government will always side with the Han. If you walk down the street in Urumqi and look at the "Help Wanted" signs in the windows, 90% of them will say "Han Only" . The same is true for rental housing, and even schools. The Uyghurs are economically marginalized, and the government
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It's not about racism, it's about anti-sedition.
The fact that the seditious happen to be ethnically different is irrelevant. The fact that they wear their ethnicity as an anti-chinese badge might be.
Re: Good (Score:5, Informative)
Islam is not a race.
Look, this policy is NOT being applied to muslims, it is being applied to Uyghurs REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGION. 80% of muslims in China are NOT Uyghurs, and these policies DO NOT apply to them. The largest majority muslim ethnicity in China are the Hui, who are well assimilated into Chinese society, mostly speak Mandarin, and often you wouldn't even know they are muslim until you see them skipping the pork dumplings at the all-you-can-eat buffet.
This policy is based on ethnicity.
It is NOT based on religion.
If you need this to be repeated a few more times, just ask.
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You're making too fine a distinction if you compared them to another ethnic group which did a better job of assimilating. I don't know much about the Uyghurs--are you saying they don't speak much Mandarin and don't share culture with the rest of China? It sounds like the problem isn't traditional racism, but a conflict between cultures that don't like each other's lifestyle.
Not that that makes much of an argument in favor of Beijing's actions, though.
Re: Good (Score:5, Interesting)
are you saying they don't speak much Mandarin and don't share culture with the rest of China?
Exactly. It is based on culture and ethnicity, and NOT on religion. If you promote separatism, you are going to get hammered, whether you are a muslim Uyghur or a buddhist Tibetan, and the punishment is going to be applied collectively.
China is not "anti-muslim". There are 50 million muslims in China. There are mosques in every major city. Most of these muslims dress, speak, and act just like other Chinese, and consider themselves Chinese. Xinjiang is a much more recent addition to China, and was originally conquered by the Qing (Manchus), not Han Chinese. Xinjiang continued to resist, broke away many times, and was independent as recently as 1949. Many Uyghurs feel more kinship with the people across the border in Kazakhstan that with the rest of China.
Not that that makes much of an argument in favor of Beijing's actions, though.
This policy is not coming from the central government in Beijing. This is an initiative of the Xinjiang provincial government.
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Thanks for the details. It's been a long time since I lived in China, and I wasn't particularly involved in the politics at the time.
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They have been Muslims for centuries and before the formation of the PRC were semi autonomous.
White Americans are constantly told they are not "natives" because they've only been in America for a few hundred years.
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Are you suggesting to nuke them from orbit because it's the only way to be sure?
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http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/... [knowyourmeme.com]
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Where did you get that idea from, you ignorant sack of shit?
Re: Good (Score:2, Funny)
Jewish law.
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Let me help you out. But before I go any further you are correct, there are many Christians who seem to like to cherry pick what they like out of Jewish texts.
Christianity is called Christianity because it's adherents follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. You will find those teachings in a set of books called the New Testament.
Now once again, there are a LOT of Christians who are unable to understand they are to follow Christ's teachings because some of the Jewish texts are so darn "convenient." Take the
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So you are saying that the Ten Commandments don't mean anything to Christians.
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"If ... Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die"
Where does "Jewish Law" end and "Christian Law" begin exactly?
Perhaps with the teachings of Christ, the "Christ" in "Christian"? In this particular case perhaps where Christ tells people to stop stoning sinners? ;-)
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Jewish Law? Begins in Exodus. More in Leviticus. Ongoing tradition of interpretation through your local rabbi.
Christian law? Begins with acknowledgement of Jewish law and extracts the Great Commandment (Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God, The Lord is One; Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind) and Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. From there has always been a diversity of practice in interpretation by various Christian religious communities
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"If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city." -- Deuteronomy 22:23-24
Emphasis added. The generally accepted interpretation of these verses is that if a woman were attacked in the middle of a city, someone else would hear the attack and come to stop it. If the woman didn't "cry out", and was therefore a willing participant, then she was guilty of adultery.
Obviously, in the modern world, that assumption isn't valid, but 1000 BCE Israel was a different culture. The Torah also doesn't have nearly the minute detail that current US law has.
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Hey! I recently both broke and filled Mosaic law all on my own; and I don't even believe in any gods or other supernatural things.
How did I achieve this? It was easy. I did some work on the sabbath, and then I got stoned (several times).
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Christianity is also viewed with suspicion in China, but since Christ made a point of telling people to be Pacifists and obey Authority, the PRC is fine with followers of actual Christian doctrines.
No they are not. The Chinese Communist Party controls the clergy and injects political lessons.
"Catholicism, like all religions, has been permitted to operate only under the supervision of the State Administration for Religious Affairs. All worship must legally be conducted through state-approved churches belonging to the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association (CPA), which does not accept the primacy of the Roman Pontiff. In addition to overseeing the practice of the Catholic faith, the CPA espouses poli
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Um, maybe it's the man-dress, AK-47 and car packed with 200 lbs of ANFO.
Just sayin'.
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Let's see.
He has a distance friend who knew someone from the China authority.
Pass! Next Please!
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Bacon strips.
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What if you deny it? How can they prove what you believe (or not?)
You are a Muslim if you are on the List of Muslims.
If you deny it then you are a Denier that is on the List of Muslims.
Everyone on the List installs the Spyware. Deniers too.
You can be added to the List of Muslims at any time.
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This is NOT targeted at muslims. It is targeted at Uyghurs, which are an ethnicity, not a religion. Other muslims, such as the Hui minority are not being targeted.
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How do they know if you're Uyghurs then?
In China, your ethnicity is listed on your national ID card.
Ethnic minorities in China [wikipedia.org].
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Uyghurs are a Turkic people who speak a Turkic language. They are ethnically, culturally, and linguistically quite distinct from Han Chinese.
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What if you deny it?
Then any Muslim within earshot will kill you. As far as the Chinese government is concerned the problem is solved on their end either way.
How can they prove what you believe (or not?)
If they are looking to check that their spyware is installed on your phone then I doubt they care what you believe. There are no rights in China. Denial will not be enough to free you from surveillance.
Re:How do they know if you're a Muslim? (Score:5, Insightful)
Perhaps you've never heard of a guy named Saint Peter, who denied knowing Jesus Christ three times because he was afraid of the laws and/or rules of this world.
See, John 18:13-27
Re: How do they know if you're a Muslim? (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's all fiction, Brent,
Anyway, history is full of examples of fervent believers who denied their faith. Maybe you've never heard of the Marranos (I'm pretty sure you haven't) who were Jews who lived as Christians to avoid the Spanish Inquisition, or the many Jews who pretended to be Christian to avoid the Nazis. These were most assuredly not fictional characters.
I've put together a li
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Your ignorance would be amusing, were it not for the idiots modding you Insightful [wikipedia.org].
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Perhaps you've never heard of a guy named Saint Peter, who denied knowing Jesus Christ three times because he was afraid of the laws and/or rules of this world.
See, John 18:13-27
But then he was crucified upside down for not renouncing him. What's your point?
I'm an atheist so I really don't give a shit anyway.
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My point is that history is full of examples of devout believers who denied their faith to evade the laws or the Inquisition or the gas chambers or the lash. Faith is fungible.
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Re:How do they know if you're a Muslim? (Score:4, Informative)
Faith is fungible.
Nope. Appearance of faith is fungible. As a lifelong atheist, I get to deal with stupid people all the time, and mostly I deal with them by not correcting them when they assume that I'm of {their favourite/their hated/any} faith.
My son does the same. While you and I can split hairs on slashdot all day long, in real life it will be way too exhausting to correct people's misconceptions. It's better to simply avoid the argument that {their god is real/moon landings were faked/the MRA is out to get them/the earth is flat/etc}.
Of course, on slashdot I get to determine how much of my time to waste; IRL the other party will continue the conversation long past the time that I am tired of it and I may not be able to get away.
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Well, it's worth noting that not only was he afraid for himself, but his entire faith was also starting to falter as well... a person whom he thought was more powerful than the world itself was being subjugated by it. My point stands, a person that really believes in their religion, particularly one that subscribes to a notion of spending eternity somewhere isn't about to deny it simply because of some possibility for earthly consequence. It's worth noting that Peter repented of the transgression, and
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Yeah, but now he's Heaven's bouncer, and can deny access to the VIP section to whomever he wants and gets to date the strippers.
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16:106. Whoever disbelieved in Allah after his belief, except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith but such as open their breasts to disbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a great torment.
Re:How do they know if you're a Muslim? (Score:5, Informative)
If you think about that for just a moment you should realize how silly your question is. A person that truly believes in their religion isn't going to go and deny it, because adhering to their religion is more important than adhering to the laws and/or rules of this world. Reasonably, If one denim, then they clearly aren't passionate enough about any belief they may happen to have to be liable to pose a threat on account of any such beliefs.
Taqiya (Arabic: taqiyyah, literally "prudence, fear")[1][2] is an Islamic term which refers to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5] [wikipedia.org]
Re: How do they know if you're a Muslim? (Score:5, Informative)
Actually Muslims are specifically allowed by the Koran and Hadith to lie about being Muslim in order to save their hides. See Taqiyaa, kitman, and the various other officially sanctioned types of deception.
Christians are expected to proclaim their faith though it may cost their lives, and many have done so.
Another poster mentions St. Peter as denying his faith, but those three denials occurred four days before the capstone of the Christian faith was put in place- the ressurection of Christ.
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China already has far more terrorism than America does. This action is in response to repeated attacks at train stations, schools, and even a coal mine. Most violence has been in Xinjiang, but some incidents involving Uyghurs have occurred as far away as Shenzhen and Kunming.
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And Beijing.
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I think you're being sarcastic. But Japan has mostly kept religious terrorism out of its country by simply not allowing many Muslims to immigrate, and not allowing construction of new mosques. It's not even particularly oppressive, unless a Muslim has his heart set on moving to Japan. Of course, the strategy of keeping Islam out entirely wouldn't work in a country that has a large established Muslim population, because it would be extremely oppressive.
Re:About Time Someone Actually Fought Terrorism (Score:5, Insightful)
My understanding is that Japan doesn't allow many people to immigrate there, period.
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Um... what?
Sweden was a *non-participant* in WWII, just as it's been a non-participant in every conflict since 1809. Germany got punished for trying to conquer all its neighbours and to exterminate a number of ethnic groups.
And I'm guessing you're an anti-Semitic nutjob.