Robots in Warehouses To Jump 15X Over Next 4 Years (techrepublic.com) 125
The worldwide warehouse and logistics robot unit shipments will increase from 40,000 robots in 2016 to 620,000 robots annually by 2021, according to highly reliable numbers from Tractica, which adds that the $1.9 billion market in 2016 is expected to jump a staggering tenfold to an annual $22.4 billion by the end of 2021. From a report on TechRepublic: As a measure of global market value, Tractica also expects the robotic shipments to reach $22.4 billion by the end of 2021, up from an estimated $1.9 billion in 2016. The report, which highlights market drivers and challenges, profiles 75 "emerging industry players," and is divided into sections based on robot type. According to the report, "warehousing and logistics industries are looking for robotics solutions, more than ever before, to remain globally competitive," which will "lead to widespread acceptance and presence of robots in warehouses and logistics operations." To allay fears about lost jobs due to automation, the report authors said they expect that the increase in robots will likely yield new jobs and opportunities for businesses. "The next 5 years will be a period of significant innovation in the space, bringing significant opportunities for established industry players and startups alike," said Manoj Sahi, a research analyst, in the report.
Re:The robots themselves? (Score:5, Funny)
I think they mean the robots will be able to jump 15x higher. It's probably to reach the higher shelves of the warehouses.
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The coming dystopia is going to be awesome.
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You know what's funny? I'm working on a popcorn eating robot.
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We had robots in our warehouse in 1987 - they couldn't jump, but they could reach higher than people standing on the ground.
That "robotic" stock handling robot easily eliminated one job per shift, and it cost much less to maintain than the workman's comp insurance premium for a single employee. 30 years ago.
Re:The robots themselves? (Score:5, Funny)
That's why modern electronics has changed, why the old beige look from the late seventies into about 2002 or so was replaced. Because white robots can't jump.
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Our warehouse containerized the stock to standard tubs, it wasn't highly efficient in terms of spatial volume, but it was very well organized and mated well with the inventory database. In 1987. They can do fancier things today, 3 dimensional packing algorithms to fit different sized boxes into a bigger shipping container or truck - route planning to direct the truck packing order, etc. Still, below a certain threshold of material being handled, it's just more efficient to make a person handle it on the
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The NBA Players Union could not be reached for comment, but a spokesman was heard to mutter "White Bots can't jump. . . "
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Each warehouse robot will have feet coated with Flubber.
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It's growth. It's just worded strangely. Slashdot has a long-established tradition that everything must be expressed in terms of how much smaller it will be. I.e., "robot growth is expected to be an inverse one-fifteenth times smaller shrinkage in quantity in four years".
"X times larger"? What kinda cockamamie phrasing is that?
Big deal (Score:2)
Only 15 times? I can jump even more than that in four years.
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Only 15 times? I can jump even more than that in four years.
Yes, but will you?
All at once? (Score:1)
Anyone read the title and think of robots jumping in the air all at once?
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I did, then I calculated that the robots would jump 3.75 times per year.
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>not even an offset worth mentioning
It's totally worth mentioning if you want to pretend there's hope. If you have an agenda. If you're being contradictory. If you're oblivious, naive, or have been told otherwise by someone's whose judgement you think is accurate/valued.
We won't need three billion robot repairmen. See you all in the terrafoam.
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That's probably in the ballpark. But the mechanics will be robots too.
Robby the Mechanic (Score:2)
More complex units require multiple robots doing preventive maintenance.
FTFY. :)
Highly reliable numbers? (Score:3, Insightful)
Next story, please.
Re:Highly reliable numbers? (Score:4, Interesting)
The automation taking place is tremendous. The need for people is dropping fast. I would not be surprised to see a 90%+ drop in human labor. I'm aware of new warehouses opening with 60 people whereas the warehouses they replaced had 180 workers and handled half the inventory and half the volume.
Conversations I've had leave me thinking that in a few years, when the warehouse expands (to more than twice the current size) they will not need to add more workers.
In the immediate future (the 3-5 year range) we're seeing warehouses handling 4x the volume with 1/3 the human labor).
So the warehouses of yesteryear would have needed 180(4) = 720 workers now only need 60 people.
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I'm honestly a little surprised that it didn't happen sooner. When I was a kid I got to tour a printing press for a newspaper. The bulk of the heavy lifting was done with robotic carts that would automatically go retrieve fresh rolls of paper based on the consumption rate as the newspapers were printed. The robots were able to retrieve rolls from the paper room without those rolls having to be specifically stacked, the robot could find the paper and could mount it onto the special cradle/cart and take it
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Heh. I would like to see a defrag process run upon such a warehouse. I expect it would look something like playing Freecell...
Defragging the warehouse (Score:2)
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For a warehouse like this, "defragmenting" really wouldn't have a meaning.
In a spinning drive filesystem, locating all the consecutive blocks of a file adjacent to each other can give a performance advantage for reads and possibly writes as the head doesn't have to move for each sector. It's already basically where it needs to be.
For a warehouse, part 123 doesn't need to be next to 124. The only advantage to having them next to each other is for a human to quickly be able to locate it. A computerized wareh
Defragging (Score:2)
In this context, popular items are better, in that access to them is more efficient, if they are more easily accessed.
However, popularity is not a stable metric.
So things that used to be popular but are no longer so would be better moved to a higher effort access, while things that are presently popular would be better moved to, or placed in, more efficiently accessed areas. This should increase efficiency, and is essentially equivalent to defragmenting because item packing based on an associated character
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It would probably also behoove whoever is designing this algorithm to consider items purchased together, assuming that the robot is capable of pulling more than one bin at a time, or if pulling multiple bins from a single shelf or tight physical location to feed to a common conveyor belt makes more sense. Thinking of examples like diapers, diaper wipes, baby shampoo, and baby powder.
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Yes, spot on.
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It would probably also behoove whoever is designing this algorithm to consider items purchased together,
Seems to me that Amazon - and others - have been doing that for many years now.
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Certainly seems reasonable. On the other hand, this is the company that completely missed the brass ring WRT the Alexa interface, so it's not like they don't make mistakes... :)
[IMHO, first company to put a LAN-competent Alexa-like on the market will win the endgame, and will win double if it actually uses AI instead of canned phrasing.]
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Heh. I would like to see a defrag process run upon such a warehouse. I expect it would look something like playing Freecell...
I think actually we're looking at the physical equivalent of a hashtable, With probably MRU pre-fetch on the "cache" storage area.
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Actually, the whole storage is treated as a managed unit. Not only are the shelves narrower (you only need enough space for the bin of products and the picker robot that pulls the bins and brings them out), but they're a lot taller as well. A human powered warehouse has a height limitation because they can only reach so high up. A robotic one can be easily a few storeys high thus making extensive use of the space.
And there's a "cache" area that holds bins that have popular product so it doesn't have to be fetched from the main storage area all the time.
In fact, it's all computer controlled. When new product comes in, the receiver tells the computer to send them an empty bin (they all have IDs), and the receiver simply loads the bin up with product, scanning them as they're put on the bin. Once done, the computer moves the bin into the storage area and manages where it'll put the items. All that needs to be done is someone telling the computer what product is being put in and the computer manages it from there.
This also means the storage is organized somewhat randomly - since the computer knows where all the bins are (and thus, where products are) it doesn't have to arrange the stock by any particular system. In fact, it probably does it by popularity - the more popular items are in locations that can be retrieved quickly while least popular items will require more time to fetch.
And it's all dynamic.
So... if the whole thing crashed and the inventory is randomized and unreachable during Christmas time... that would suck.... I can hear it now, "Has anyone found the PS5 bin yet??"
Not insurmountable (Score:2)
Just put a physically printed barcode in a visible slot on the front of the bin when a part is assigned to it.
Now the entire warehouse can be re-indexed if needed by robots running up and down the aisles (or equivalent), just looking at the bins and reporting in to the management system.
Probably not a bad idea to do this on a fai
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Probably better to just stick RFID tags on them.
Occasional inspection is a good idea, though. I'm thinking of cases where a rat is running up the wall just as the robot jams an item into a slot. Ick.
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If your product is in stackable containers, you can put them on standard skids and have a robot load them into standard racks. You can go one further and stack product on skids so it is both stable and individual units can be removed by robots.
Orders can be picked by robots, stacked by robots, wrapped by robots. I'm not sure we're ready for loading onto trucks by robots (things just get too messy dealing with LTL when you don't know what's already in the truck).
Still, it wouldn't be unreasonable to have a
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In the late 80's to early 90's I worked for a company that automated Microfiche retrieval. I went on an install of our software at a credit card company that had 40+ microfiche stations and near 40 people per 8 hour shift that would retrieve a single film from a storage room, look up the credit card statement, hit the print button, and take the printout to a single station for one person to fax out on the 5 different fax machines and return the film in the process.
We would train people 20 at the time explai
Jumpin' Jehoshaphats! (Score:2)
Where's the work! (Score:1)
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It (work) / They (jobs) will be gone. And that should not be a thing to worry about as long as the right politicians are voted into office. Currently governments apply taxes mostly on work and money spent. When those are no longer viable options they'll have to tax something else to keep the nation running. Production and property. Or they'll have to (shudder) privatize. They'll need to distribute enough wealth or risk anarchy. Whether they take the 'left' or the 'right' road.
Those with creative ideas and t
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I foresee a lot of new hobbies in the not too distant future, manual labor being one of them. Maybe some of them will even become sports, so the really talented can earn money going that route. The others will be glad 'modern' humans will never have to do that anymore.
But manual labor involves risk of injury, you mentioned earlier that due to this risk employers wouldn't even hire people willing to work for free.
And hobbies require money. They just do. If there are no jobs, then you can't even afford housing, much less hobbies. We'd have to actually attain the mythical/utopian post-money Star Trek society. It was possible in the Star Trek universe due to energy sources that provided basically unlimited resources. In our case though, it'd be the opposite -- without any jo
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That's why lowering the minimum wage is a dead-end road. Whether you're a 'commie' or a 'capitalist', or anything in between, changing the minimum wage to anything other than 'if you work for reasonable hours/week you can live off of that, have some small luxuries and support a modes family', will do more harm than good. When minimum wage is too low, you'll have people starving and not enough consumption to keep the economy going. When minimum wage is too high, people working above and beyond what's normal (those that used to earn a higher wage) will stop putting in effort to keep progress going because they can 'earn' the same 'doing nothing'.
This analysis does not take into account the possibility of the creation of a basic income provided for all adults / households. If work is not necessary to provide a "living wage" then there wouldn't need to be an artificial floor for wages offered by employers. As long as the basic income provides a living wage that is.
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If you tax property, that means that people who pay those property taxes have to have jobs to pay them. Without those jobs, they can't pay their property taxes. So, out on the street.
Now, if instead you want to tax non-real-estate property, again people have to have jobs to have money to pay those taxes. Same as they have to have jobs to pay sales and consumption taxes.
The alternative is to tax production directly - a manufacturer's sales tax. And for those companies that try to dodge it by moving operat
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You talk like a proletarian.
If I own Mar-a-Lago, do I have to work to pay the property tax? Of course not! I put up a Trump resort, charge $200K a head membership and presto! Other people end up paying my taxes for me.
Proles work because that's the only way they can earn enough to pay for their essentials, much less their toys.
Real 1-percenters don't work to pay for things, they work because they are using money as a score-keeping system relative to their fellow 1-percenters. Or they don't work and live off
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Well, the stock Libertarian/Conservative view is "go make yourself a job, you lazy bums"!
The pollyanna view is that "if you automate farms, people will flood to the factories". "If you automate the factories, they'll learn to program". "If you automate (or outsource) programming they'll (mumble, mumble)", because things always work out in this Best of all Possible Worlds.
Which smacks of supply-side economics plus expecting a long lucky streak to continue forever. And, someone who's more up on the history ca
You mean people used to do that shit, grampa? (Score:2)
One more low-pay, dangerous, non-unionized job the angry left won't have to finger their worry beads over.
And now, the hand is quicker than the eye. Watch below!
Automation has a purpose. (Score:4, Insightful)
"...To allay fears about lost jobs due to automation, the report authors said they expect that the increase in robots will likely yield new jobs and opportunities for businesses."
What utter bullshit. There's a reason companies are looking to replace humans with robots, so let's dispel with the illusions about how robots will somehow not impact the job market.
Jobs will ultimately be lost to automation. It's kind of the entire fucking point.
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Re:Automation has a purpose. (Score:5, Insightful)
...When you automate people out of a job, you temporarily displace them. However, that frees up a lot of capital. And, before you say that the rich greedy people at the top will just pocket all that money, remember that they are rich and greedy and want even more money, so they'll take that money and start new businesses that employ lots of people.
Well that's a cute fairy tale version of the future. Now let me enlighten you to the reality of today.
The chasm between the rich greedy people at the top and the other 99.9% of the planet isn't shrinking.
The automation of yesteryear still left the door open to educating a human, to allow displaced workers to move on to find employment in another field. Automation and AI is now targeting educated jobs, so this next iteration of automation will not be temporary by any means. When most education becomes irrelevant due to the utter lack of employment opportunities, society will start to question the purpose of wasting time or money on higher education, which we are already facing those concerns today, as graduates struggle to escape the "gig" economy to try and find a career.
Even if automation only removed the lowly jobs out there, it's replacing the employment opportunities that allow humans to climb the proverbial ladder. When you remove the 10 lowest rungs on the ladder of success, tends to make it impossible to climb.
The rich and greedy may start new businesses, but those businesses will employ automation and AI in order to remain competitive.
And much like TFS implies, this is going to happen much faster than anyone thinks.
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At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”
Cute, and entirely misses the point as so many popular anecdotes do.
I think we can take it for granted that the canal was actually needed, otherwise there would have been another team down the line filling it back in again. And I think it's probable that there weren't so many people in need of employment that they had to resort to absurdly inefficient processes.
And finally, earth-moving equipment is expensive and requires specialized parts and maintenance. In some Asian (and for that matter non-Asian) count
Re:Automation has a purpose. (Score:5, Insightful)
The chasm between the rich greedy people at the top and the other 99.9% of the planet isn't shrinking.
Actually ... it is shrinking. Over the last two decades the people that have done the best are the extremely poor: factory workers in Guangzhou, seamstresses in Bangladesh, coffee farmers in Tanzania. It is "poor people in rich countries" have been the losers, but those people aren't really poor. They are in the 85-95% range, so actually relatively rich by world standards.
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Re:Automation has a purpose. (Score:5, Insightful)
The chasm between the rich greedy people at the top and the other 99.9% of the planet isn't shrinking.
Actually ... it is shrinking. Over the last two decades the people that have done the best are the extremely poor: factory workers in Guangzhou, seamstresses in Bangladesh, coffee farmers in Tanzania. It is "poor people in rich countries" have been the losers, but those people aren't really poor. They are in the 85-95% range, so actually relatively rich by world standards.
In 2010, it took 388 people to represent the wealthy elite who owned as much as half of the global population. In 2016, it took only 62.
In 2015, a new metric was born by the top 1% who owned more than the rest of the world combined.
I have no idea what metrics you're looking at, but that chasm between the wealthy elite and the rest of us is not shrinking. It's also not displaced by trying to marginalize how some in extreme poverty are now doing "better" by jumping up to mild poverty. Slight improvements are not going to do a damn thing to prevent the inevitable, which is going to be a massive shift in world standards through automation and AI. Once that happens, Welfare 2.0 (UBI) will define the standard poverty line for all.
New industries (Score:2)
o CAT scanners, MRI, etc.
...unless your definition of "new industry" is that "aircraft aren't a new industry because we had horses before", the list is basically endless. And if that i
o CGI
o DSP (you name it... SDRs, sonar and radar analysis, digital recording studios top to bottom, CD / DVD / Bluray, image processing, etc.)
o DSLRs
o GPS
o Internet
o IOT
o Robots
o Working spacecraft
o Working weather prediction
o Anything that depends on databases (almost everything)
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"so they'll take that money and start new businesses that employ lots of people"
No, they'll throw it in the stock market and/or embezzle it. Starting large businesses that employ lots of people isn't worth the risk anymore.
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Jobs will temporarily be lost to automation. We've been automating people out of work for a very, very long time
We're very good at cutting costs through automation, but we're extremely bad at creating those new jobs. Instead, larger and larger percentages of those gains have gone to the top.
And, before you say that the rich greedy people at the top will just pocket all that money, remember that they are rich and greedy and want even more money, so they'll take that money and start new businesses that employ lots of people. I know that sounds an awful lot like trickle-down economics (probably because it is) [...]
I know that's wonderful business school theory, but we have thirty-plus years of proof that Trickle Down Economics is bullshit, a self-serving argument to fleece the population while convincing them that the fleecing is good, and that someday, yes someday they'll benefit.
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Even to the degree you are correct, you are ignoring the time it takes.
Many of the luddites died of starvation and exposure. They were correct about how bad automation would be. Owners would not train them on the new equipment.
It was the generation AFTER them who did okay in factories.
It could be 10 to 40 years before we adapt to the automation and people are employed again. That's going to indicate a period of civil unrest and violence. And that's EVEN if you give them money to survive. Many people w
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"remember that they are rich and greedy and want even more money, so they'll take that money and start new businesses that employ lots of people"
You have assumed that rich and greedy people who want more money understand that "take that money and start new businesses that employ lots of people" is how capitalism works.
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Jumping robots in a warehouse (Score:4, Informative)
This is a robot jumping in a warehouse : https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] (jumps are at the end of the video)
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Chris Cross gonna make ya... (Score:2)
>> Robots in Warehouses Gonna Jump , Jump
These robots are useless (Score:1)
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto (Score:2)
Thank you very much, Mr. Roboto
For doing the jobs nobody wants to
Warning: Sarcasm Ahead! (Score:1)
That's not very good (Score:1)
Robots in Warehouses To Jump 15X Over Next 4 Years
Pah. I can jump 15 times in 4 minutes. Well, maybe 10.
Sounds like marketing hype (Score:2)
On of our warehouses tried a robotic system to put product away and retrieve it when needed. It sucks, it's slow, it's costly, and it's always breaking down. I know technology moves at a quick pace but I haven't seen anything close to matching efficiency of a human operator.
Define robot? (Score:2)
I write warehouse control systems for some of the world's biggest automated warehouses. There's very little in use that meets the colloquial usage of 'robot'. The shuttle ASRS systems mentioned are machines that technically fulfil the robot criteria, but you wouldn't look at one and call it a robot. The stuff that does look like a robot, the ROI just doesn't seem to be there just yet.
This is one area where Europe leads America still. In Europe, higher costs for land and unskilled labour mean logistics c
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Robots are showing up everywhere. They're now doing the cutting for cataract surgery [montrealgazette.com] because they can do it better than a trained specialist surgeon. How long before they do the rest of the surgery?
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There's very little in use that meets the colloquial usage of 'robot'. The shuttle ASRS systems mentioned are machines that technically fulfil the robot criteria, but you wouldn't look at one and call it a robot.
You mean android? Most robots don't look like people, if that's what you're getting at. I think people generally recognize Roombas as robots, and they're not anthropomorphic.
Re: Define robot? (Score:2)
What I mean by robot is a mobile machine with some sort of limb like manipulator.
The ASRS is a fixed crane style device with vertical elevators and horizontal shuttles. A box goes in and is pushed by hydraulic arms onto elevator, onto shuttle, into storage, and the reverse sequence when it's needed again, directed by software autonomously, and guided by photocells for positioning.
I would consider a Roomba as a robot, but not as ASRS. I would refer to an automated crane for sure as a 'robotic' crane, but n
I hope Everybody builds robots (Score:1)
Real issue is the packing robots coming up (Score:1)
Amazon is already working on eliminating the next human step in the chain. Humans picking packing the boxes.
Right now the robot shelf brings the product to the human who picks it and packs the box. There are tens of thousands of these across the country. They'll vanish quickly when the pick item and pack box step is roboticized.
Traditional Forklift Sales To Plummet (Score:2)